Doing chest using suicide grip

[DrmChld]

Originally Posted by spider28

u will only drop the weight if you cant handle it, if they were using their thumbs same thing probaly would have happened

If the spotters were paying attention I don't think it would happen either

I believe spotters should always have an hand on the bar for safety, but to not help with lifting or guiding unless needed.

[popeye87]

I beleive i read somewhere that the harder you grip the bar, results in less energy for the actual movement (i.e. the press) i think one of the reasons suicide grip is preferred as it prevents over gripping of the bar and thus less energy expenditure through grip. It was something along those lines anyhow and suppose it does make sense, personally though i just use normal grip, will occasionally use suicide grip if doing a wide grip bench press but thats just for my persoanl comfort.

[Gaskicker]

Originally Posted by cgh

WIth all due respect to everybody, you have to be a moron to drop the weight on you.

No ****! I can't say I have ever felt like I was gonna drop the bar on my chest.

But, he may have had an injury of some sort. Shoulder maybe.

[Definitelynotme]

if you are careful, thumbless grip is fine

[Newarkar]

I use it, but its not beginners, or people who dont knwo what it is for that matter. Anything is hazerdous if not done properly.

[jrink]

Originally Posted by Kalt

Anyone who uses suicide grip is an emo f4g.

But then again, to each his own.

negged...

[determined594]

I find that thumbless grip allows me to focus more on pressing w/ chest. I feel when i wrap my thumb it alters my grip and shifts the forearm just enough to cause the load to shift to the tri's more. If you are going to drop a weight its going to happen, your thumb isnt going to stop 250 lbs from landing on you.

[giresun27]

I use 1 finger deadlift for grip strength

[Nauxz]

Imo suicide/thumbless grip makes it easier to engage the chest when benching. With thumbs it is easier to engage the triceps.

[The_Animal11]

i use the thumbless grip for all my BB chest movements. i like it better because it rotates your hands in just a little bit, which for me takes a little bit more of the effort off of the shoulders and places it on the chest. Also, since it makes it impossible to squeeze the bar, that extra effort goes into the reps as well.

[LL SquatButt J]

...i use suicide grip while i shoulder press

[superfunk]

I've always used a thumbless grip. Like others have said i can lift more weight, it puts way less stress on my wrists, and in 10+ years of lifting i've never had an issue. I have no idea how those morans manage to drop the weight on themselves.

[LL SquatButt J]

Originally Posted by superfunk

I've always used a thumbless grip. Like others have said i can lift more weight, it puts way less stress on my wrists, and in 10+ years of lifting i've never had an issue. I have no idea how those morans manage to drop the weight on themselves.

for some crazy reason i thought it would put more stress on the wrist to do thumbless...

[superfunk]

Originally Posted by jampsifit

for some crazy reason i thought it would put more stress on the wrist to do thumbless...

Not in my experience. I had an injured wrist a few years back and the difference in wrist pain between using thumbless and a regular grip was very noticeable.

[MiKeHendrycks92]

if your benching the right weight for YOU it suicide is not a problem at all, ive been using it for like 8 months since my buddy showed me it, i will NOT use my thumb now. when i use my thumb it feels like some ****ty arm exercise, with suicide it goes straight into my chest, i can press more and get better gains, i use suicide for all my chest presses and most back exercises..

only time you drop it is if you are putting on way too much weight like a dumb ****...guy at the gym last week was trying 4 plates on each side and even had his thumb but dropped it on himself because hes a dumb ****...doesnt matter where your thumb is if the weight is 200 plds heavier then you should be lifting

[theshoupguy]

Originally Posted by MiKeHendrycks92

if your benching the right weight for YOU it suicide is not a problem at all, ive been using it for like 8 months since my buddy showed me it, i will NOT use my thumb now. when i use my thumb it feels like some ****ty arm exercise, with suicide it goes straight into my chest, i can press more and get better gains, i use suicide for all my chest presses and most back exercises..

only time you drop it is if you are putting on way too much weight like a dumb ****...guy at the gym last week was trying 4 plates on each side and even had his thumb but dropped it on himself because hes a dumb ****...doesnt matter where your thumb is if the weight is 200 plds heavier then you should be lifting

Not always. If someone's not used to using a thumbless/suicide grip and goes right into it after using their thumb for previous workouts up until that point, they aren't guaranteed the same safety.

+strong thread necro

[Justin Buchana]

Originally Posted by DiamondDelts

I think noobs just make a whole lot of nothing around here. I've used a thumbless grip for over a decade and ain't **** ever happened.

This.

I have used it since I started, and I haven't had any problems.

[dimce]

Originally Posted by determined594

I find that thumbless grip allows me to focus more on pressing w/ chest. I feel when i wrap my thumb it alters my grip and shifts the forearm just enough to cause the load to shift to the tri's more. If you are going to drop a weight its going to happen, your thumb isnt going to stop 250 lbs from landing on you.

Yep i totaly agree with this one,i do the thumbless and its owkay,i can't do it the other way coz my palm ,my hand its use to it thumbless way,iv tried once to push with locked grip and believe me i couldnt push enough like i use to do with tumbless.probably im 5kg weaker in locking grip pushing

[MiKeHendrycks92]

Originally Posted by theshoupguy

Not always. If someone's not used to using a thumbless/suicide grip and goes right into it after using their thumb for previous workouts up until that point, they aren't guaranteed the same safety.

+strong thread necro

true dat i guess:P never thought of that:S

[nano.ix]

i used to always use it b/c my forearms would fatigue way before my reps. I started grip/forearm work and now im back to using a normal grip.

terrible catch 22 if you ask me

[Clarko]

Originally Posted by spider28

u will only drop the weight if you cant handle it, if they were using their thumbs same thing probaly would have happened

I don't know if I agree with this completely, because if your arms aren't failing then it would be more likely to slip out without your thumb there. With some people it can be ok. However, I think everybody needs to know themselves, and if you drop the weight on yourself, you were a moron and I'm sure you'll learn from your mistake. Unlike some of you guys, a thumbed grip has always been natural to me. I've never even thought of trying it the other way around. I might try it on db presses though just to see what it feels like.

I know this really has nothing to do with the topic, but the freak lifting injurys made me think of it. One time I had been deadlifting with the barbell that was on bench press, and I picked it up to rack it back on the bench press rack without taking the weights off because it's easier to take them off when it's off the ground. And for some reason, maybe from the jolt of racking it, I felt a crazy vibration throughout my head for a split second and blacked out right as I racked it. I woke up with a cracked tooth from coming down with all of my body weight face to bar, and I couldn't eat without excrutiating pain forever it sucked so bad.

[94jettameowpsst]

[QUOTE=Dwizzo;151264091]Arnold is the man and knew exactly what he was doing when he would bench with a thumbless grip... Imitate at your own risk:QUOTE]

The sunglasses tell that story.

[Wildtim]

I've seen bunches of vids of guys using the thumbless grip while benching haveing the bar fall on them. I've never seen one vid where the bar fell while the guy had his thumb around the bar. Thats enough for me.

[allsweaty]

No one in this thread is Arnold, not even close, so any comparison to anything he did is useless.

A thumbless/suicide grip could make you more prone to injury. Either by having the bar fall on your neck or the way it puts your wrist in an unnatural position.

Why do you want to do the suicide grip anyway? Push more weight? You only push more weight due to your thumbs pressing up on the bar with force, thus taking stress off the pecs, thus increasing the amount of weight you can lift.

It only has to fall on your throat once to **** you up.

[jktooley]

As a relative newbie, I'm glad I stumbled across this... Whenever I do chest, it seems that either my Delts or my Tri's will fail first... Grip could be part of the problem...

[Clarko]

Originally Posted by jktooley

As a relative newbie, I'm glad I stumbled across this... Whenever I do chest, it seems that either my Delts or my Tri's will fail first... Grip could be part of the problem...

Try a wider grip, and try to establish a mind/muscle connection with your chest.

[double gonad]

Originally Posted by allsweaty

No one in this thread is Arnold, not even close, so any comparison to anything he did is useless.

A thumbless/suicide grip could make you more prone to injury. Either by having the bar fall on your neck or the way it puts your wrist in an unnatural position.

Why do you want to do the suicide grip anyway? Push more weight? You only push more weight due to your thumbs pressing up on the bar with force, thus taking stress off the pecs, thus increasing the amount of weight you can lift.

It only has to fall on your throat once to **** you up.

Strong bump from 12+ months ago...I'm with this guy. I could probably do decline BB bench without a spotter for the rest of my life with no issues, but the first issue would likely be my last.

[dbluegoat]

Originally Posted by Wildtim

I've seen bunches of vids of guys using the thumbless grip while benching haveing the bar fall on them. I've never seen one vid where the bar fell while the guy had his thumb around the bar. Thats enough for me.

true and it only takes one time for a mistake to happen and I bet they never use that grip again