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06-29-2009, 11:23 PM
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What the f*ck is juice?
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is there a point where you are taking TOO many omegas/fish oil?
I was wondering if taking so many omega/fish oil supps would be unbeneficial? Or in other words is there a point where a certain amount just really isn't doing more for your body?
Also what do you really need? Omega 3-6-9 and fish oil? Or is there more? And how many grams or whatever would be best/most productive of each?
An example of excess may be animal omega. Is it really necessary to get all those omegas/ fishoil in? Not trying to bag on animal in any way, im taking omega and flex, but its just the price is killing me ($32 for 30 day supply), and I was wondering if there was a cheaper and as beneficial omega/fish oil product out there?
If so can you list it and its price?
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06-29-2009, 11:41 PM
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you can get like 1000 fish oil pills for $15 at walmart
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06-29-2009, 11:47 PM
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Yes, taking too much O3 can have negative effects. I'm not well educated on it, but there are risks. You definitely don't need more than 1g of epa/dha per day, so there is no reason to overdo it
and yes, walmart and costco both sell huge amounts of fish oil for cheap
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06-29-2009, 11:56 PM
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i buy mine at walmart. Super cheap, and i take 4-6 a day.
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06-30-2009, 02:30 AM
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Yes, megadosing fish oil can be risky. EPA and DHA can suppress biomarkers of your body's immunity response, and increase bleeding time and oxidative damage. Research shows that using a dose of 720 mg fish oil (4 grams fat contained in 9 capsules per day) had negative effects on immunity. See, "Dietary supplementation with eicosapentaenoic acid, but not with other long-chain n-3 or n-6 polyunsaturated fatty acids, decreases natural killer cell activity in healthy subjects aged >55 y." Thies F, Nebe-von-Caron G, Powell JR, Yaqoob P, Newsholme EA, Calder PC. Am J Clin Nutr. 2001 Mar;73(3):539-48. PMID: 11237929 abstract available at http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1...ubmed_RVDocSum
Also, the American Heart Association warns against supplementing more than 3 grams without remaining under a physician's care. http://www.americanheart.org/present...dentifier=4632
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06-30-2009, 02:35 AM
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I usually take 1200-1500mg of EPA/DHA a day. That's what comes in 2 of the softgels or one teaspoon of the oil that I take.
Right now though, I'm only taking 500-600mg because I'm running X-Factor.
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06-30-2009, 03:03 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nick1990
I was wondering if taking so many omega/fish oil supps would be unbeneficial? Or in other words is there a point where a certain amount just really isn't doing more for your body?
Also what do you really need? Omega 3-6-9 and fish oil? Or is there more? And how many grams or whatever would be best/most productive of each?
An example of excess may be animal omega. Is it really necessary to get all those omegas/ fishoil in? Not trying to bag on animal in any way, im taking omega and flex, but its just the price is killing me ($32 for 30 day supply), and I was wondering if there was a cheaper and as beneficial omega/fish oil product out there?
If so can you list it and its price?
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You need to differentiate "omega" supps and fish oi, Omega-6, etc...
Yes can take too much of the various fatty acids and it may not be in your best interests on many health and goal related levels.
What you actually need or would benefit to supplement with depends upon your diet. Most don't need supplemental n-6 and n-3, rather more n-3 and EPA & DHA in particular [fish oil].
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06-30-2009, 07:34 AM
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well heres Universal Animal Omega stats. Too much, too little, just right?
I mean are they the best too buy, or would it be just as well to buy another, less potent omega/fish oil supp?
Out of all the ingredients, are any not that beneficial?
What should i look for in a good EFA supp?
Thanks for the help so far guys.
30 Paks
Serving Size1Pack
Servings Per Container30
Amount Per Pack
Calories 60
Calories From Fat 60
Total Fat 7g 11%*
Saturated Fat 1g 5%*
Polyunsaturated Fat 2.75g **
Cholesterol 5mg 2%*
Vitamin A (As Retinyl Palmitate) 2664IU 53%
Vitamin D (As Cholecalciferol) 2000IU 50%
Vitamin E (As D-Alpha Tocopherol) 10IU 33%
Omega 3 Fatty Acid (N-3 FA) Complex 4000mg
Flaxseed Oil **
Salmon Oil **
Cod Liver Oil **
Herring Oil **
Anchovy Oil **
Mackerel Oil **
Sardine Oil **
Omega 6 Fatty Acid (N-6 FA) Complex 2500mg
Borage Oil **
Safflower Oil **
Evening Primrose Oil **
Sesamin **
Omega Absorption Complex 200mg
Lecithin (Soy) **
L-Carnitine **
Lipase Enzyme **
* Percent Daily Values are based on a 2,000 calorie diet
** Daily Value (DV) not established
Other Ingredients:
Gelatin, Glycerin, Purified Water, Caramel Color. This Product Contains Fish.
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06-30-2009, 08:50 AM
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I normally take three of these a day. It has 950mg of EPA/DHA in each pill. Comes out to a little under 3 grams. You guys are saying this is too much?
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06-30-2009, 09:03 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wes_mantooth
I normally take three of these a day. It has 950mg of EPA/DHA in each pill. Comes out to a little under 3 grams. You guys are saying this is too much?
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seems that way, doesn't it?
The Animal Omega packaging says:
Serving Size: 1 Pack
Directions For Universal Animal Omega: Use Animal Omega as you would your regular essential fatty acid (EFA) supplement. If this is your first time, take Animal Omega with a meal and you're good to go. Use a pack or two daily, as you need it. Generally, a single pack will do fine for most. Elite athletes can consider doubling up the serving.
* These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease.
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06-30-2009, 09:09 AM
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did someone actually back up what they said with research? this must be a first instead of people just throwing around what they heard from "a guy".
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06-30-2009, 09:23 AM
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By the way, I'm not taking Animal Pak. The pills I take are Puritan's Pride Super Omega 3 something or other. I asked my doctor about it a week ago and he said between 2-4 g a day is fine. He said that's typically what they give people with high triglycerides for treatment. I was under the impression that 3 g a day would be perfectly fine to supplement with.
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Originally Posted by snorkelman
seems that way, doesn't it?
The Animal Omega packaging says:
Serving Size: 1 Pack
Directions For Universal Animal Omega: Use Animal Omega as you would your regular essential fatty acid (EFA) supplement. If this is your first time, take Animal Omega with a meal and you're good to go. Use a pack or two daily, as you need it. Generally, a single pack will do fine for most. Elite athletes can consider doubling up the serving.
* These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease.
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Last edited by wes_mantooth; 06-30-2009 at 09:25 AM.
Reason: Clarification
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06-30-2009, 02:13 PM
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PUFA's easily oxidize and should be limited to avoid heart disease.
So yes, you can take TOO much.
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06-30-2009, 03:26 PM
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So, how much is too much?
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06-30-2009, 03:27 PM
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well, im not sure if i ever even said this, but my main question was really, is it really MORE beneficial to be taking Animal Omega over some other EFA supp?
And if so can you tell me which would be best? But if Omega is the top of the line, then i would rather just keep taking that.
Thanks for the replies guys.
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06-30-2009, 03:38 PM
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Here's an interesting article on T-nation that got me taking fish oil....advocates 2-3 g's combined EPA/DHA minimum for fat loss purposes, with plenty of science backing it....
http://www.tmuscle.com/readArticle.do?id=1651364&cr=
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06-30-2009, 04:09 PM
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I hate how they always tote that Flameout fishoil.
Seriously, 90capsules per bottle? I take 12 a day (6 in a.m. 6 in p.m.)
I would go through 90caps in a little over a week. and I don't even want to know how much is costs.
That is why I buy this monster sized bottle of fishoil. A generic drug store brand (Rite-Aid) and it has 1000 capsules per bottle and its less than $20.
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