The EC (ephedrine/caffeine) FAQ Thread

[cwmass]

I'm going to be donating blood on Wednesday.. Would taking ec be a problem?

[bly3]

Originally Posted by Colossal Spoons

Pretty sure HIIT is to be avoided while running this cycle for that very reason

Ya I just assumed this was more geared forthose a bit out of shape or just starting a cut. At 24 and pretty good shape I was thinkin it may not be an issue for someone like myself.

[Gishdream]

Originally Posted by bly3

Ya I just assumed this was more geared forthose a bit out of shape or just starting a cut. At 24 and pretty good shape I was thinkin it may not be an issue for someone like myself.

Tell that to the pro ball players that died from it in the early 2000's. Its your body.

[XxXSnake23XxX]

i have 1 question regarding NESTEA... it does have caffine in it but will
effect the stack? im doing 1C/3E

[Vietgoboi]

Originally Posted by XxXSnake23XxX

i have 1 question regarding NESTEA... it does have caffine in it but will
effect the stack? im doing 1C/3E

If its less then 100 mg and you take it once a day, its fine. IMO

[Pichketina]

Another question.

If I'm satisfied with the weight I'm losing with my diet alone, but I want to keep my muscle mass safe from deteriorating, would it be ok to take ephedra without caffeine? Would I have the same effect?

[ememCe]

Does anyone here go aboive .25mg per serving? Im on my 4th week and ive built up a pretty good tollerance to it. Just 2 more weeks to go before Im done.

[EdgarAllanPoe]

for those concerned about HIIT...i do it...for 15-20 minutes on a stairmaster....it seems like a breathe a little heavier possibly but nothing crazy and i manage just fine...

I have noticed if i do a moderate cardio at maybe stairmaster 8 level for 30 minutes, i'll be drenched in sweat while on ec anyway.

This is my 2nd "cycle" of the ec stack, i took about a month off from it. Seems this go around cardio is easier, and i'm not as hot as i was....before when i would go to bed i would hae to sleep with all the covers off cause my body temp stayed so hot, i'm not having that prob this time.

I still had the weird suppressed appetite the first week in, but now i'm back to eating like normal.

[n00bi3]

can anyone recommend a diet to go by while on this stack? also, how many calories should i be aiming for? i was thinking around 1800-2000

[SoXoZoR]

Agreed. Anyone mind helping me attaining the Ephedrine? I can't find Bronkaid or Primatine(sp?) in US.

I searched Walmart, Walgreen. I found someone drugstore.com but I want to avoid ordering them online

[ememCe]

CVS (longs)
Rite Aid

[TheDeliveryGuy]

Originally Posted by SoXoZoR

Agreed. Anyone mind helping me attaining the Ephedrine? I can't find Bronkaid or Primatine(sp?) in US.

I searched Walmart, Walgreen. I found someone drugstore.com but I want to avoid ordering them online

Are you asking at the counter, those places should have it.

[athomp55]

Question about doseing,
I have the Bronkaid with the 25mg Ephedriene, and 200 mg caffeine caps, how should I dose these? the only one ive seen in this FAQ are for the 30 mg ones?

[BreakingPoint8]

Originally Posted by athomp55

Question about doseing,
I have the Bronkaid with the 25mg Ephedriene, and 200 mg caffeine caps, how should I dose these? the only one ive seen in this FAQ are for the 30 mg ones?

Dosing based on 20 or 25 mg ephedrine HCL pills (or ephedrine sulfate)

Note: 1E = 20 or 25 mg ephedrine
and .5E = 10 or 12.5 mg ephedrine

I am assuming caffeine tablets of 200 mg. So 1C = 200 mg, .5C = 100 mg

The caffeine tablets do not break in half well, approximate is fine.

A pill splitter works well on the ephedrine (can get at any pharmacy).

Day 1 - This day you just take 1 dose to test whether you are hypersensitive to ephedrine (very rare). The dose will be .5E .5C
- symptoms of fast heart rate, and slight jitters are normal - like the feeling you get from having a lot of coffee.

Day 2-3 - You take 3 doses of .5 E .5C minimum 4 hours apart. I suggest keeping it so your last dose is at least 6 hours away from your bedtime.

Day 4-7 - Your dosing will be 1E 1C, .5E .5C, .5E .5C That is, you take full dose for your first dose only.

Day 8-14 - 1E 1C, 1E 1C, .5E .5C

Day 15 and onward - 1E 1C 3x/day

[pumped4life82]

Dosing question here as well. If you've already gone through the dosing cycle once and then cycled off for a few weeks, is it necessary to go through the exact same dosing cycle again, or could you go with higher dosages when starting up again (since your body would presumably be "used" to the EC by now)?

[SoXoZoR]

I believe its recommanded that you start all over again. I read it somewhere, in this thread, not exactly sure where

[vanessa40]

Originally Posted by SoXoZoR

Agreed. Anyone mind helping me attaining the Ephedrine? I can't find Bronkaid or Primatine(sp?) in US.

I searched Walmart, Walgreen. I found someone drugstore.com but I want to avoid ordering them online

I buy mine at Walgreen and CVS. You have to go to the section where they have asthma and cold meds and they have little cards with the boxes picture on it. You take that to the counter. I never buy my online. To much of a hassle.

[SoXoZoR]

Also for people who doesn't want to go through the trouble of buying them from pharmacy or show proof of ID, go to ebay or amazon and search for Bronkaid. Having just paypal is enough

[athomp55]

Originally Posted by BreakingPoint8

Dosing based on 20 or 25 mg ephedrine HCL pills (or ephedrine sulfate)

Note: 1E = 20 or 25 mg ephedrine
and .5E = 10 or 12.5 mg ephedrine

I am assuming caffeine tablets of 200 mg. So 1C = 200 mg, .5C = 100 mg

The caffeine tablets do not break in half well, approximate is fine.

A pill splitter works well on the ephedrine (can get at any pharmacy).

Day 1 - This day you just take 1 dose to test whether you are hypersensitive to ephedrine (very rare). The dose will be .5E .5C
- symptoms of fast heart rate, and slight jitters are normal - like the feeling you get from having a lot of coffee.

Day 2-3 - You take 3 doses of .5 E .5C minimum 4 hours apart. I suggest keeping it so your last dose is at least 6 hours away from your bedtime.

Day 4-7 - Your dosing will be 1E 1C, .5E .5C, .5E .5C That is, you take full dose for your first dose only.

Day 8-14 - 1E 1C, 1E 1C, .5E .5C

Day 15 and onward - 1E 1C 3x/day

Thanks, that clears it up for me

[pumped4life82]

Originally Posted by SoXoZoR

I believe its recommanded that you start all over again. I read it somewhere, in this thread, not exactly sure where

Can anyone else confirm; is this correct?

[SoXoZoR]

Originally Posted by pumped4life82

Can anyone else confirm; is this correct?

Source : http://www.hotnfit.com/ecstack.htm#top

Let me copy it for you

Note 3 - After ~4 weeks the loss of appetite and extra energy will mellow out, but the thermogenic effects continue for a very long time, so it is your choice whether to cycle off. The fat loss effects do continue. If you choose to take a 2 week break after 4-6 weeks, stay on the caffeine, drop the ephedrine, and raise it slowly according to the schedule above when you go back on. Ephedrine is not addictive, and does not have withdrawal symptoms, whereas caffeine is and does, so just stay on it if you wish. However, I do not recommend exceeding 8 straight weeks. Take a minimum 2 week break after 8 weeks. Then restart with day 1

[pumped4life82]

Originally Posted by SoXoZoR

Source : http://www.hotnfit.com/ecstack.htm#top

Let me copy it for you

Note 3 - After ~4 weeks the loss of appetite and extra energy will mellow out, but the thermogenic effects continue for a very long time, so it is your choice whether to cycle off. The fat loss effects do continue. If you choose to take a 2 week break after 4-6 weeks, stay on the caffeine, drop the ephedrine, and raise it slowly according to the schedule above when you go back on. Ephedrine is not addictive, and does not have withdrawal symptoms, whereas caffeine is and does, so just stay on it if you wish. However, I do not recommend exceeding 8 straight weeks. Take a minimum 2 week break after 8 weeks. Then restart with day 1

Awesome, thanks!

edit- reps, too

[thundrchickn]

Anyone here hit a weight loss plateau or feel like they're not getting the same effects from EC like when they first started?

I haven't lost nearly as much in the last 2 weeks as I did in the first few weeks. I tried switching up diet and switched back cuz I didn't like it. Starting a new workout routine this week.

Chest/Tris w/ forced negatives
Back/Bis w/ negatives
Back
Legs


Cardio (switching from 40 min spin to 20 min rowing/20 min sprints) x3 a week

[Archangel_Lost]

EC doesn't suppress my appetite at all. If anything it makes me fuggin' hungry. Not just cravings, but actually hungry. Like, I'll be on a diet, and then I'll start an EC cycle, and randomly my stomach will start rumbling between meals and I'll feel like I'm starving, even though I'm eating the same.

[terracotta]

Originally Posted by SoXoZoR

Agreed. Anyone mind helping me attaining the Ephedrine? I can't find Bronkaid or Primatine(sp?) in US.

I searched Walmart, Walgreen. I found someone drugstore.com but I want to avoid ordering them online

http://www.bayercare.com/product_locator_form.cfm but you are only 17 and shouldn't take it.

[Requisite 101]

Thanks for this thread.

Today, I purchased a pack of Primatene tabs (ones containing 12.5mg E-HCL) since my CVS was out of Bronkaid. I asked the pharamcist if I could purchase more than one box of Primatene, and he said no. So, he proceeded to enter my ID information into the computer and I purchased a box.

How can I acquire a few more boxes? Is the system a global ordeal or just at that one store from which I bought a box of Primatene from? For example, would I be able to go to Walgreens/Walmart and buy some more Primatene? Or would I get denied there since I purchased at CVS already?

[SoXoZoR]

Originally Posted by Requisite 101

Thanks for this thread.

Today, I purchased a pack of Primatene tabs (ones containing 12.5mg E-HCL) since my CVS was out of Bronkaid. I asked the pharamcist if I could purchase more than one box of Primatene, and he said no. So, he proceeded to enter my ID information into the computer and I purchased a box.

How can I acquire a few more boxes? Is the system a global ordeal or just at that one store from which I bought a box of Primatene from? For example, would I be able to go to Walgreens/Walmart and buy some more Primatene? Or would I get denied there since I purchased at CVS already?

http://www.amazon.com/PRIMATENE-Prim...6940561&sr=8-3

http://www.amazon.com/Bronkaid-Actio...6940561&sr=8-1

http://shop.ebay.com/items/__primate...=p3286.c0.m359


All good and fair if you have paypal

[terracotta]

Originally Posted by Requisite 101

Thanks for this thread.

Today, I purchased a pack of Primatene tabs (ones containing 12.5mg E-HCL) since my CVS was out of Bronkaid. I asked the pharamcist if I could purchase more than one box of Primatene, and he said no. So, he proceeded to enter my ID information into the computer and I purchased a box.

How can I acquire a few more boxes? Is the system a global ordeal or just at that one store from which I bought a box of Primatene from? For example, would I be able to go to Walgreens/Walmart and buy some more Primatene? Or would I get denied there since I purchased at CVS already?

You can only purchase so much per day AND month by law. And each store can set a stricter limit if they like.

DEA limits are listed here:
http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/meth/cma2005.htm

[vanessa40]

I had the same problem at my CVS. Walgreen let me buy 2 boxes of the 60 count Bronkaid no problem.

[vanessa40]

Originally Posted by SoXoZoR

http://www.amazon.com/PRIMATENE-Prim...6940561&sr=8-3

http://www.amazon.com/Bronkaid-Actio...6940561&sr=8-1

http://shop.ebay.com/items/__primate...=p3286.c0.m359


All good and fair if you have paypal

Thanks..
I was buying from Americarx.com but they started requiring you to mail them a photo id.