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Old 06-29-2009, 12:12 PM   #661
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Ok feel like i need to update on this now lol.

Took first dosage at 10a.m
Let me preface this by saying i have an extremely high level of tolerence to all stims, been on ECA, plain ephedera, hydroxycut, lipo6, phenom, just about all stim and thermogenics you can think of. With no harsh effects.

15mins after my first dose of this my stomach felt horrible really nauseated, (possibly due to not having any food in my system because i took them upon waking up, or maybe its just how it effects the body. It recommended 30mins before first meal, so i tried to eat my 6egg whites and sweet potatoes 30mins after, and wasnt hungry at all, had to try and force the food down, felt almost like throwing up so i set my eggs aside for a while. After about 45min- an hour. The stomach feeling subsided and i returned to a normal state, and was able to still eat my eggs despite not being hungry.

So this product so far is definitly intense in its thermogenic properties, hopefully that relays into its fat burning properties, ill keep posted.
I've been taking Lipo 6 (non black) for 2 weeks. I still get the same stomach burning sensation. It says to take it will a full glass of water but I always forget to. Maybe that'll help. I'm always starving afterwards. I eat 5 egg whites with 2 ounces of turkey and a slice of wheat bread. Sometimes that isn't even enough.

My update:
I try to eat 2000 kcals a day, ~150g protien, ~100-150g carbs, ~50-70g fat. I finally got back to the gym Saturday after recovering from my mouth surgery:
Sat: 30 min low intensity cardio in the morning and afternoon
Sun: Workout
Today: Spinning and hopefully 30 min low intensity cardio tonight

I am going to write out a new workout plan because I get exhaust working out everything and cannot workout to my full potential:
Day 1: Arms and shoulders
Day 2: Chest and Back
Day 3: Legs

Keep up the work everyone.

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Old 06-29-2009, 12:39 PM   #662
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Just had my last 'dirty' meal.
Chinese food, and it didn't even taste that good. Glad i'm not gonna eat this or other crappy/fatty foods anytime soon again.

I'm almost relieved that i'm starting today because i've been feeling heavy these last few months. And i've become very selfconscious of it all.

I'll start off with preparing my body for the nasty workouts of the next weeks/months.
So it'll be a full body routine, low to medium weights, high reps, short breaks in between sets and topping it off with some low to medium intensity cardio for 30-45 mins.

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Old 06-29-2009, 04:07 PM   #663
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Ok feel like i need to update on this now lol.

Took first dosage at 10a.m
Let me preface this by saying i have an extremely high level of tolerence to all stims, been on ECA, plain ephedera, hydroxycut, lipo6, phenom, just about all stim and thermogenics you can think of. With no harsh effects.

15mins after my first dose of this my stomach felt horrible really nauseated, (possibly due to not having any food in my system because i took them upon waking up, or maybe its just how it effects the body. It recommended 30mins before first meal, so i tried to eat my 6egg whites and sweet potatoes 30mins after, and wasnt hungry at all, had to try and force the food down, felt almost like throwing up so i set my eggs aside for a while. After about 45min- an hour. The stomach feeling subsided and i returned to a normal state, and was able to still eat my eggs despite not being hungry.

So this product so far is definitly intense in its thermogenic properties, hopefully that relays into its fat burning properties, ill keep posted.
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Old 06-29-2009, 04:39 PM   #664
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June Progress

I haven't lost much weight this month (3lbs) but have lost about 1.3% b.f. (13.5%) to (12.2%) which comes out to 3.2lbs of fat loss, which I'll take.I'm pushing for 8% by Sept. I noticed a little muscle gains in the arms chest and shoulders
I'm tightening up the diet and have increased my fat burning cardio to 25 min sessions.

I just started adding waxy maise carbs and X-tend to my post shakes and even near the end of my weight sessions with initially prolonged pumps, I was impressed.

Today: 45 mins of stairs spread out over 2 sessions (25,20mins) plus very light (20 reps) whole body weight training setting up my poundages for my upcoming GVT program.
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Old 06-29-2009, 04:51 PM   #665
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You get up at 10 am? You suck .
Haha yea just finished my semester last week so ive been taking full advantage of not being up at 7 every day for class lol.
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I'm back :)

Hi Everyone, I'm back from a lovely and very relaxing girls weekend at the spa. It was a first for us and I vow to make it an annual event. lol. I posted my stats in my sig as usual. Here are my monthly pics:
------------6-26-09----------- ---- ------------6-1-09------- ----------------6-26-09------- ------------------------6-1-09-------


I really, really need to hear your feedback on my progress. Please be totally honest but not too brutal. At this point in time my goal is a firm flat tummy and to maintain my current everything else like forever.

All the other posts I've been reading show a lot of you are making good and steady progress. Keep up the good work.

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Lipo6 black

Gonna assume that the feeling i had from the lipo was due to the complete empty stomach.
Went to the gym and did my shoulder/trap workout followed by 35mins on the treadmill.
Bout 2 hours after my workout with plenty of protein and cal intake prior i took my 2nd dose and had no nausea or anything out of the normal.
So i would recommend eating 45min to an hour before dosing, at least a protein shake.
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Originally Posted by 12weekhardbody: djz227, can you post you diet and cardio for me?

Hi. Yes (I'll try my best). And thanks for the compliment.
I've been following a hi protein, lo carb diet since October 2008. I don't eat dinner at an ideal time because we've been late eaters for several years now due to everyone's schedule and kids' activities but this way we could mostly eat together as a family. Also my earlier meals are a little small because I realized for me to be successful I had to eat the same dinners as the rest of the family with some adjustments like salad instead of mashed potato. Until recently I got all my carbs from green vegs like lettuce,spinach,broccoli,asparagus. Monday thru Friday i.e. work days are pretty much the same and I have no problem staying on track. Weekends and holidays are a little more difficult but I've managed ok. For me they are in lieu of the cheat meals you hear people talking about. A typical day for me is:

6:40 vitamins, glass of water (work out til about 7:30) then another glass of water
7:40 breakfast: 2 hard boiled eggs, 2 cups of coffee
1:15 lunch: 2 slices deli turkey with 2 slices cheese (mozzerella or monterey jack jalapeno)
4:30 or 5:00 snack: vegs - salad or broccoli or asparagus
dinner (time varies from 8:00 til sometimes as late as 9:30) another veg and a protein, examples are steak-always huge, grilled pork chop, baked chicken breast, grilled or broiled skinless boneless basted chicken breast, grilled veal chop, pork tenderloin.

The last couple months I experimented with more carbs on weight days. Since I always work out in the morning my friend BePrecise helped me work out a schedule where I would eat carbs starting the afternoon before and ending by noon day of. So on Wednesday I would have a sweet potato for snack at 5:00, lift Thursday morning and follow with berries and plain no fat yogurt for breakfast. This worked pretty well and the first week I followed this I lost 2 1/2 lbs. Also tried brown rice for snack and oatmeal for breakfast. I haven't really eaten any bread and rarely miss it.
Most of this time I did weights every Tues/Thurs/Sat and cardio every Mon/Wed/Fri. Sometimes I walk for cardio (30 minutes 2 miles) but mostly I use my Nordictrack ski machine for a minimum of 30 minutes and a max of 40. The last few months I've been doing intervals. That's the basics of what I've been doing since last October. BUT I was advised by a friend that I needed to do extra cardio and abs work to build my abs and burn the remaining layer of fat to uncover them. So for 8 weeks which ended Friday I've been doing lotsa crunches every morning in addition to my regular workouts AND core exercises followed by at least 20 minutes cardio 5 nites a week. During this time I had no carbs after 6:00PM. It was brutal but I think I finally might have made some progress in that area (check my last post and tell me if I'm dreaming). Starting today I'm only working at once a day and next week it will be evenings only for a month because I have to leave earlier to bring my son to camp so I lose that time slot.
The one thing missing from my food plan is fruit. I've been trying to remember to bring some to work to eat around 11 ish because I think fruits are important and I seem to have a long stretch of not eating between breakfast and lunch which isn't supposed to be a good thing.
I know this is too long. I hope I answered your questions. Feel free to ask for more details if I was not clear or left stuff out. Also be aware that the foods you choose should fit into your general lifestyle as well as the times you choose to eat them or else you won't be able to stick to your plan. And it should be a plan to follow forever or we will just gain it back and undo all our hard work. I don't eat food/junk that I like and miss but all the foods that I do eat I like and I try to savor every bite because I do enjoy eating.
Let me know how it works out.
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June 22, 2009
Weight: 169.0 lbs
BF: 32%
Bust: 37.25"
Waist: 33.0"
Stomach: 37.0"
Hips: 41.25"
Thigh: 25.5"

June 29, 2009
Weight: 166.6 lbs -2.4 lbs
BF: 34.1% +2.1%
Bust: 36.75" -0.5"
Waist: 32.5" -0.5"
Stomach: 36.75 -0.25"
Hips: 40.0" -1.25" Yippeee!
Thigh: 25.5" -0.0"

I've lost some muscle, but heard this is common if you're really overweight and have alot of bodyfat to lose. I track my macros carefully and somedays was just not hungry enough to get all my protein in, so I know this is the issue. At my goal weight and bodyfat, I need about 109 lbs lean muscle which is a little less than I am now, so I will need to hold onto this muscle! Also took progress pics, and I think I'm looking smaller, especially the side view...
Looking good and you can DEFINATELY see the difference in your newest pics. What type of plan are you doing??
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Holding steady at 274 as of this morning.

Down 26 pounds in 6 weeks.

Meh, results are coming fast, just not as fast as I want them too.

It's never enough.

Time to work harder then.
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k so i figure that some of the bigger people here can relate to me with a problem i am having. or at least i hope...

chafing

after running around all day today, its killing me. i have no idea how to make it comfortable for tomorrow. haha sorry for the weirdness
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k so i figure that some of the bigger people here can relate to me with a problem i am having. or at least i hope...

chafing

after running around all day today, its killing me. i have no idea how to make it comfortable for tomorrow. haha sorry for the weirdness
Get yourself a tight pair of spandex type pants to wear underneath your normal workout clothes.

I have the same problem too and once I started wearing these while working out, all the chafing and soreness went away.
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k so i figure that some of the bigger people here can relate to me with a problem i am having. or at least i hope...

chafing

after running around all day today, its killing me. i have no idea how to make it comfortable for tomorrow. haha sorry for the weirdness
NormalMan is right. I do all my workouts, weights and cardio, in under armour pants - even before I lost the weight. I wear a long t-shirt with it. Nothing's as soft and comfy as a plain old fashioned mens white Hanes undershirt.
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Get yourself a tight pair of spandex type pants to wear underneath your normal workout clothes.

I have the same problem too and once I started wearing these while working out, all the chafing and soreness went away.
i have a pair of white spandex pants. they are for a band show and are rediculous looking. and i dont think i could wear them to work without getting made fun of haha. i dont really get it from the gym, it's my new job as a summer recreation assistant that does me in. i am running and moving constantly. i will just have to deal i guess. maybe a few pairs of spandex shorts or something
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Looking good and you can DEFINATELY see the difference in your newest pics. What type of plan are you doing??
Thanks Palollis! I'm doing a keto plan (CKD) at about 25% protein, 5% carbs & 70% fat. I have lots of energy and am never hungry. I still haven't gotten to the point of liking exercise like you have, lol. In fact, I just finished chest, shoulders & abs and it's 1:00 am here in Chicago. I wonder will I ever like it, lol. Congrats on your high motivation and sticking to your plan so long. Eight weeks is a loooonnng time. At least to me it is, as I've had trouble sticking to a plan that long. Twenty pounds down already- keep it up!
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Im in as well
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I have some nice muscle growing but I need to cut big time.
I have already been working out since Feb 7 and lost 45lbs so far.

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Old 06-30-2009, 01:21 AM   #679
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am i working out too little? i do about 40 min of cardio a day and moderate to heavy lifting.

monday i start a summer job that requires me to be active all day in the sun (rec counselor) so hopefully i start to melt away!
No, that is what I did and lost about 45lbs in 5months, 230 to 185. I need something different now though.
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Old 06-30-2009, 01:31 AM   #680
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No, that is what I did and lost about 45lbs in 5months, 230 to 185. I need something different now though.
u have a video of this 550 squat? Would love to see it.
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Old 06-30-2009, 06:38 AM   #681
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Thumbs up let's do it

Hope nobody minds the late join

Been losing fat for a long time, taking it real slow. Not necessarily looking for added bulk at this point, but for overall athleticism/body strength.

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Old 06-30-2009, 07:19 AM   #682
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Did back workout today, and actually included deadlifts for the first time in 10 years. Gotta thank LiftHeavy for that, saw your deadlift routine, and thought I should put it back in. I forgot how taxing it can be, but I love it. Thinkin on getting real squats in again for leg day, but gotta admit its a little intimidating when working out alone I just dont trust my knees to hold up, but we will see, wont know without tryin. Thanks again all.
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Hi Everyone, I'm back from a lovely and very relaxing girls weekend at the spa. It was a first for us and I vow to make it an annual event. lol. I posted my stats in my sig as usual. Here are my monthly pics:

I really, really need to hear your feedback on my progress. Please be totally honest but not too brutal. At this point in time my goal is a firm flat tummy and to maintain my current everything else like forever.

All the other posts I've been reading show a lot of you are making good and steady progress. Keep up the good work.

Welcome to all the newcomers and good luck to you all.


It's good to see you back now! I was too afraid to post pics after my time away due to my bad eating but it was funny as I did have a butt pic that was supposed to be a back shot. But when your 5 yr. old takes a picture, they point the camera straight ahead and shoot. Oops.

Your goals sounds good to me. You've really leaned out so if you just want to maintain at this point, you can live-a-little. Be prepared for some water gain (which is what I'm dealing with) as the fear of gaining the weight again can be mentally and physically crippling. But you look great, nice job!
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one month in progress

I had a few bad patches this month but im still down 8lbs and lost some inches in good areas, so im happy. Definately need to do better next month with my eating though! I'll try get pics up in the next few days.

31/05/09
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Weight:255lbs
Bodyfat: 28.5%
Arms: 15in
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Chest: 43in
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Belly Button: 48in
Thighs: 24.5
Calf: 17in

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Weight:247lbs (-8)
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Arms: 14.5in (-0.5)
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u have a video of this 550 squat? Would love to see it.
Its a controlled squat. Its on a machine that they have at really big gyms such as liftime fitness. I am really not into benching or squatting high weights becouse I do not always have a partner with me and I would never attempt my max w/o a partner.

The machine is basically two holds that you put your back into and then there is a platform you put your feet on and you simply get the little stick and select your weight (like most machines). It is really easy, but it has fantastic results, I would say the same as regular squatting almost.

Real squatting with just the bar and weights I have done 180lbx3.
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Thanks for the info djz227!! I agree with you that these plans should become part of our lifestyle. Saw your latest pics. Do you have any "before's"? I would like my legs to be the size of yours because you look very proportionate. My lower half is thicker than my upper so I am trying to balance it out.

I had my body fat done last Friday. It showed me at 23%. I want to lose 4 pounds by the end of July and be down 3% body fat. This may seem big by way of body fat but I am so in the game right now that i totally think it's doable.

Hope everybody else is doing well and staying on a successful track!!
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The machine is basically two holds that you put your back into and then there is a platform you put your feet on and you simply get the little stick and select your weight (like most machines). It is really easy, but it has fantastic results, I would say the same as regular squatting almost..
I don't know if almost even cuts it as there's really nothing like squatting with weight on your back. However if they really tax your legs and keep your back safe, go for it and just keep going as heavy as you can safely do. Progressive overload is the name of the game. I have chicken legs and used to be able to squat over 400 lbs. at 180 lbs. I'd trade a 100 lb. max leg extension if it meant huge quads.

A guy at my gym was deadlifting over 500 lbs. and the first thing my friend looked over at me and said, "Impressive...but did you see how skinny his legs were?" Uh boy...
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Thanks for the info djz227!! I agree with you that these plans should become part of our lifestyle. Saw your latest pics. Do you have any "before's"? I would like my legs to be the size of yours because you look very proportionate. My lower half is thicker than my upper so I am trying to balance it out.

I had my body fat done last Friday. It showed me at 23%. I want to lose 4 pounds by the end of July and be down 3% body fat. This may seem big by way of body fat but I am so in the game right now that i totally think it's doable.

Hope everybody else is doing well and staying on a successful track!!
You can do it, especially as motivated as you sound!
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I don't know if almost even cuts it as there's really nothing like squatting with weight on your back. However if they really tax your legs and keep your back safe, go for it and just keep going as heavy as you can safely do. Progressive overload is the name of the game. I have chicken legs and used to be able to squat over 400 lbs. at 180 lbs. I'd trade a 100 lb. max leg extension if it meant huge quads.

A guy at my gym was deadlifting over 500 lbs. and the first thing my friend looked over at me and said, "Impressive...but did you see how skinny his legs were?" Uh boy...
Yeah,I know what you mean about the big legs thing. My friend's dad is a amateur body builder that goes to competitions and he leg presses 1800lbs. His legs are huge.

My legs are big, shoulders are wide, and back is in good condition (hopefully will remain that way)

The squatting machine I was talking about makes me very soar all the time, it allows me to do a lot of reps at max weight. So I really like it. Also its much safer then normal squatting.
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am i working out too little? i do about 40 min of cardio a day and moderate to heavy lifting.

monday i start a summer job that requires me to be active all day in the sun (rec counselor) so hopefully i start to melt away!
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No, that is what I did and lost about 45lbs in 5months, 230 to 185. I need something different now though.
Nice work Bespetna! Stay with it.

PoundinThunder> You are not working out too little. What kind of cardio are you doing? What is your lifting schedule? Have you noticed any difference in the way you look, feel, how your clothes fit? If you are building muscle and losing fat at the same time the scale will not always show a loss. You have to have other ways to gauge your progress. Do not give up. We know you can do it.
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