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Old 06-29-2009, 08:10 PM   #1
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Ground horse vs beef meat?

Well, my question there is what would be the best to put on some solid Lean muscle mass?

I've read the both of the nutritional facts, the beef seems to be more fatty, and it is actually as what I saw. So, what would be the best?

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Old 06-29-2009, 08:11 PM   #2
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Old 06-29-2009, 08:12 PM   #3
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Old 06-29-2009, 08:55 PM   #4
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Well yes this is a serious question, here in canada we actually eat horse, or moose or w/e you can eat as meat. so horse basically got more protein and less fat than beef does. i would like to know if anybody else know or could help me lol.
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Well yes this is a serious question, here in canada we actually eat horse, or moose or w/e you can eat as meat. so horse basically got more protein and less fat than beef does. i would like to know if anybody else know or could help me lol.
Here in America people are big hypocrites. They never seem to stop and think that eating cows, chicken, etc is looked down upon in some countries just like eating horse is frowned upon in America.
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to me eating a horse would be like eating a dog

not because i think it would taste gross, but because its a damn dog... if you've ever owned a dog i doubt you could eat a dog

save a horse eat cows
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Well, my question there is what would be the best to put on some solid Lean muscle mass?

I've read the both of the nutritional facts, the beef seems to be more fatty, and it is actually as what I saw. So, what would be the best?

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Well since fat does not make you fat (carbs do), I don't think you would have to worry about it.

In fact, saturated fat increases testosterone levels in many people.
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Horse meat is lean but i thought it wasnt that good. Emu is the leanest and protein rich, but very tough.

My personally favourite is Bison(buffalo) very tastey, lean and not tough when cooked properly
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to me eating a horse would be like eating a dog

not because i think it would taste gross, but because its a damn dog... if you've ever owned a dog i doubt you could eat a dog

save a horse eat cows
How is this applicable? How are horses the same as dogs? This kid isn't you and your opinion is irrelevant and invalid.

Dude, if it's more protein less fat, the answer is obvious.
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Horse meat is lean but i thought it wasnt that good. Emu is the leanest and protein rich, but very tough.

My personally favourite is Bison(buffalo) very tastey, lean and not tough when cooked properly
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Well since fat does not make you fat (carbs do), I don't think you would have to worry about it.

In fact, saturated fat increases testosterone levels in many people.
Carbs don't make you fat, dip****. You're welcome to post he scientific proof of this at any time though.
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Go on a low carb diet and try to get fat, retard!
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How is this applicable? How are horses the same as dogs? This kid isn't you and your opinion is irrelevant and invalid.

Dude, if it's more protein less fat, the answer is obvious.
so you're saying eating dog is cool with you if it's someone elses opinion, and it's more protein and less fat? if the answer is yes then that is interesting.. if the answer is no, i don't see how you can say it isn't valid. horses in america are very close to dogs in terms of their relationships to people.

If you're going to neg me at least have the balls to respond to the question. It has nothing to do with the nutritional value of the meat but the relationship of the animal to people. You're a ****ing dick.

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Thanks for your opinions guys, tho my question was mainly to know if anybody knows if eating horse over beef is better.

And yes horse taste almost the same as beef and I would say that it actually taste better!
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Well yes this is a serious question, here in canada we actually eat horse, or moose or w/e you can eat as meat. so horse basically got more protein and less fat than beef does. i would like to know if anybody else know or could help me lol.
stfu no we dont, maybe you french peole are so used to eating ass all the time you guys eat any kind of meat.

plus giraffe > horse bro
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Thanks for your opinions guys, tho my question was mainly to know if anybody knows if eating horse over beef is better.

And yes horse taste almost the same as beef and I would say that it actually taste better!
check the macros/micro's and then decide from there
also cost is usually higher of 'rarer' meats
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Go on a low carb diet and try to get fat, retard!
Carbs are the highest macro in my diet and I've lost 10% BF in the past 3 months. How's that for you, retard?
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so you're saying eating dog is cool with you if it's someone elses opinion, and it's more protein and less fat? if the answer is yes then that is interesting.. if the answer is no, i don't see how you can say it isn't valid. horses in america are very close to dogs in terms of their relationships to people.

If you're going to neg me at least have the balls to respond to the question. It has nothing to do with the nutritional value of the meat but the relationship of the animal to people. You're a ****ing dick.
To me, the moral difference between cannibalism and eating a dog or a horse or a chicken or a ferret or a worm or a flea doesn't exist. The only difference comes from cultural, ethnocentric perspective. People are naturally inclined to judge and perceive things based on the values and ethics that their culture instills in them. People like me have the luxury of having broken away from such chains, and having a free perspective.

Also, his question obviously had nothing to do with the relationship he has with the animals, but the nutritional value. Your post was off topic and invalid.

To further my point, Muslims find eating beef to be heretic and disgusting. You don't. Who's right? Who's wrong?



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Go on a low carb diet and try to get fat, retard!
Thebigcorbowski is right - it's total calories that matter. It doesn't matter if its fat or carbs, just calories. That's what the scientific studies indicate.

The reason why low carb diets work for many people, is that carbs are very dense foods, that people enjoy, and tend to eat a lot of. When they go on a low carb diet and lose weight, they are essentially just reducing their calorie intake below their maintenance.
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Thebigcorbowski is right - it's total calories that matter. It doesn't matter if its fat or carbs, just calories. That's what the scientific studies indicate.

The reason why low carb diets work for many people, is that carbs are very dense foods, that people enjoy, and tend to eat a lot of. When they go on a low carb diet and lose weight, they are essentially just reducing their calorie intake below their maintenance.
Mine are at a 45-30-25 split c/p/f and I love it. I don't know if having them split like that gives me any benefits as opposed to any other splits, but I keep my cals 500-1,000 (I keep my diet the same every day, so sometimes my activity goes beyond my intense gym workout, as I love bikeriding) below my intake. And I've seen tremendous results so far. Obviously, carbs don't just make one fat.
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To me, the moral difference between cannibalism and eating a dog or a horse or a chicken or a ferret or a worm or a flea doesn't exist. The only difference comes from cultural, ethnocentric perspective. People are naturally inclined to judge and perceive things based on the values and ethics that their culture instills in them. People like me have the luxury of having broken away from such chains, and having a free perspective.

Also, his question obviously had nothing to do with the relationship he has with the animals, but the nutritional value. Your post was off topic and invalid.

To further my point, Muslims find eating beef to be heretic and disgusting. You don't. Who's right? Who's wrong?



You lose.
If you've never had a pet and compare a dog directly to a cow it's cool man, just say so, I guess that since I don't ride cows and a cow doesn't sleep on the end of my bed it means I lose?

You don't distinguish a difference between eating human meat and eating beef besides the nutritional value, I think you lose.

I don't eat dogs because of my relationship with them, not because of some moral chain you speak of nor because a mythical heavenly figure forbids it. I don't see how there isn't a difference to you but ok bro. How about you go weigh some peaches.

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If you've never had a pet and compare a dog directly to a cow it's cool man, just say so, I guess that since I don't ride cows and a cow doesn't sleep on the end of my bed it means I lose?

You don't distinguish a difference between eating human meat and eating beef besides the nutritional value, I think you lose.

I don't eat dogs because of my relationship with them, not because of some moral chain you speak of nor because a mythical heavenly figure forbids it. I don't see how there isn't a difference to you but ok bro. How about you go weigh some peaches.
So tell me, why is it more or less moral to enslave and slaughter cows rather than dogs? Is it because you have a relationship with the dog that makes it more moral to slaughter a cow you've never laid eyes upon? To claim that the same action is more or less moral because you have a relationship with one over the other is invalid and illogical. That is to say that it is ok for the U.S. to torture innocent prisoners in Guantanamo Bay, because neither of us has a relationship with any of said victims, but not ok for our dogs to be tortured, because we have relationships with them.


So my point is this, there is NO moral difference between killing anything for food. At all. Killing a dog is the same as killing a cow as killing a human is for food. One might disturb you more than the other, but no moral difference truly exists.


And you fail, because the reference to Islam was not an attempt to say that the Qu'Ran should dictate your morals, but rather to show that different parts of the world view things differently.

Also, I do have pets. And I don't think it would be any more or less moral for them to be killed for food than it is a baby cow for some dude's dinner veal steak. It might effect me more because I KNOW my cat, but I won't ignorantly pretend it is any more right or wrong than slaughtering the baby cow.
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So tell me, why is it more or less moral to enslave and slaughter cows rather than dogs? Is it because you have a relationship with the dog that makes it more moral to slaughter a cow you've never laid eyes upon? To claim that the same action is more or less moral because you have a relationship with one over the other is invalid and illogical. That is to say that it is ok for the U.S. to torture innocent prisoners in Guantanamo Bay, because neither of us has a relationship with any of said victims, but not ok for our dogs to be tortured, because we have relationships with them.


So my point is this, there is NO moral difference between killing anything for food. At all. Killing a dog is the same as killing a cow as killing a human is for food. One might disturb you more than the other, but no moral difference truly exists.


And you fail, because the reference to Islam was not an attempt to say that the Qu'Ran should dictate your morals, but rather to show that different parts of the world view things differently.
who said anything about morality

if it wasn't considered immoral to eat your kid sister and it met your macro req you would go for it eh? sounds appetizing. i'm guessing your relationship with her would stop you from doing so? wouldn't that make it illogical though? like you said some things are more disturbing than others. to me eating a dog is beyond my disturbance tolerance and eating a horse is right there with it. has nothing to do with my moral compass.

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who said anything about morality

if it wasn't considered immoral to eat your kid sister and it met your macro req you would go for it eh? sounds appetizing. i'm guessing your relationship with her would stop you from doing so? wouldn't that make it illogical though? like you said some things are more disturbing than others. to me eating a dog is beyond my disturbance tolerance and eating a horse is right there with it. has nothing to do with my moral compass.
You made this entire thing about morality by addressing the issues of right or wrong in your original post. Shut the **** up.
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You made this entire thing about morality by addressing the issues of right or wrong in your original post. Shut the **** up.
No, I said if you've ever owned a dog I doubt you could eat a dog, and I put horses in the same category. Maybe you should read things twice over before responding to them? That response pretty much means you have nothing to say though, which is basically what I knew to begin with, but hey at least you got your neg in.
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who said anything about morality

if it wasn't considered immoral to eat your kid sister and it met your macro req you would go for it eh? sounds appetizing. i'm guessing your relationship with her would stop you from doing so? wouldn't that make it illogical though? like you said some things are more disturbing than others. to me eating a dog is beyond my disturbance tolerance and eating a horse is right there with it. has nothing to do with my moral compass.
Am I saying that it is moral to slaughter baby cows? No. Is it moral to slaughter human sisters? no. Therefore, no moral difference exists. I left my posts ambiguous, I only stated that the action is no more or less moral depending on the individual in question.

And for the record, I simply partake in eating meat, because, as it is immoral to enslave and slaughter baby cows in my opinion, I do it because the protein is healthy and they're being slaughtered anyways. Besides, it's impossible to not kill living things anyways. Every time I type a key I'm killing billions of microorganisms. Is it moral? Is it just? No, it's a fact of life.


It still doesn't make it more or less moral, and if there IS some moral difference, neither of us are in the position of knowledge to judge what that difference is, and how much it varies from one being to another.

Also, it is apparent that you know nothing of what the word morality implies, as even though you never used the word in your original post, you raised a moral issue by comparing dogs to horses.
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Am I saying that it is moral to slaughter baby cows? No. Is it moral to slaughter human sisters? no. Therefore, no moral difference exists. I left my posts ambiguous, I only stated that the action is no more or less moral depending on the individual in question.

And for the record, I simply partake in eating meat, because, as it is immoral to enslave and slaughter baby cows in my opinion, I do it because the protein is healthy and they're being slaughtered anyways. Besides, it's impossible to not kill living things anyways. Every time I type a key I'm killing billions of microorganisms. Is it moral? Is it just? No, it's a fact of life.


It still doesn't make it more or less moral, and if there IS some moral difference, neither of us are in the position of knowledge to judge what that difference is, and how much it varies from one being to another.

Also, it is apparent that you know nothing of what the word morality implies, as even though you never used the word in your original post, you raised a moral issue by comparing dogs to horses.
how is that raising morality? all you've managed to say is you find about 1000 things immoral but conform for nutritional purposes. all I've said is I doubt anyone could eat a horse or dog if they've had one as a pet.
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horses in america are very close to dogs in terms of their relationships to people.
Do you drink milk, eat cheese/yoghurt/cream, and also eat beef?

Do you wear cotton clothes or use cotton linen, and eat lamb?

Do you eat bacon, ham and pork?

See what I'm getting at? Most animals have uses besides being damned tasty. As a bonus, they are damned tasty and full of protein!

I've eaten dog before, and own a dog, so there. Withdraw your doubts.
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how is that raising morality? all you've managed to say is you find about 1000 things immoral but conform for nutritional purposes. all I've said is I doubt anyone could eat a horse or dog if they've had one as a pet.
You sound like an idiot, and know nothing about morality.
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