Flex Wheeler & Myostatin Mutation...Bull****?

[leonidas300]

Originally Posted by exy

That cow was bred to be beefy like that. The boy wasn't. Let's breed people ftw lol!!!

Not meaning to sound like Jimmy the Greek here, but we did breed people to be like this in the United States. It was called slavery. The most fertile and healthy women were forced to breed with the healthiest males. Have you ever noticed that most Africans have no where near the physical development that African Americans and people from the Caribbean islands display. Selective breeding at work. (this is not intended to be racist in anyway so please do not take it as such)

[Kiwi_]

Here we go..

[Amado401]

Originally Posted by Kiwi_

Here we go..

lmfao

[morderstwo]

Originally Posted by leonidas300

Not meaning to sound like Jimmy the Greek here, but we did breed people to be like this in the United States. It was called slavery. The most fertile and healthy women were forced to breed with the healthiest males. Have you ever noticed that most Africans have no where near the physical development that African Americans and people from the Caribbean islands display. Selective breeding at work. (this is not intended to be racist in anyway so please do not take it as such)

Yeh thats true, but comparing selective breeding to a genetic condition / genetic alteration is like night & day. Selective breeding gets the best from the normal range, genetic mutation gives you something way off the scale. The 'normal' cattle we are used to seeing are already selectively bred (they've been doing that for centuries), the Belgian one blows your mind.

[Industrialfreak]

I live in michigan about two blocks away from Liam. There has been several articles in local papers on him. When I saw the first article on him he was I believe 1 years old and he could do the iron cross and also hanging upside down crunches. There seems to be a lot of hype around a supplement made to mimick the effects of Myostatin Mutation. In the DVD Bigger, Stronger, Faster there talk to a chemist that talks about how it will be the best invention for muscle gains and degenerative deseases. The funny part is they as him if they what he thinks of it and he says if they had something invented already he would be on it in a second hahahaha.

I guess we can all sit back and see what happens to these kids as far as side effects and what not all I know is by the looks of the bulls the kids are gonna be MONSTERS!!!

[Industrialfreak]

P.S. Im a fan of Flex Wheeler but lets be serious if he had myostatin mutation why would he need implants for his calves????? haha The Natural Freak!!!!!!!

[1devil]

Originally Posted by leonidas300

Not meaning to sound like Jimmy the Greek here, but we did breed people to be like this in the United States. It was called slavery. The most fertile and healthy women were forced to breed with the healthiest males. Have you ever noticed that most Africans have no where near the physical development that African Americans and people from the Caribbean islands display. Selective breeding at work. (this is not intended to be racist in anyway so please do not take it as such)

Apparently you have not seen many West Africans in your day. That Vic Richards sure is tiny. Remember Christian Okoye (played for the KC chiefs)? Just two examples of huge West africans. Your argument is not all that sound to be honest.

[weltweitefurcht]

Originally Posted by stealth_swimmer

The heart is cardiac muscle. It's highly striated, but i dunno if it grows with this mutation or not. Also, it's been shown that a large heart ain't as bad as a heart with lots of fat around it. Fat people generally get a bigger heart cus it's working harder but they also get fat surrounding it, which makes it work harder all the time (harder than if it were the same size but without that fat) and that ain't good for it.

The heart does not grow with this mutation directly, however as you said, increased weight gain, can indirectly cause heart growth, as the heart has to now pump more blood and essentially work harder.

[pit stain]

Originally Posted by ign_fan_4life

Wrong, there's also a child in Michigan and a few other confirmed cases in the world.

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew...70530/20070530

that child does not have it, that is what makes his case so amazing. He has normal myostatin levels, and they are still unsure why he is as strong as he is.

[Screwtape]

A gene which over expresses follistatin will also cause 'double muscle'.
And you can get it from a single injection!
http://ergo-log.com/follistatin.html

[265HP]

Originally Posted by Screwtape

A gene which over expresses follistatin will also cause 'double muscle'.
And you can get it from a single injection!
http://ergo-log.com/follistatin.html

Funny, lots of companies came up with scam follistatin products last year

[jbhockey]

Liam Hoekstra

[Chococat]

Originally Posted by imasavage

I never understood why bodybuilders lie to bodybuilders. You really think we are that stupid?

Yes, they do.

The internet has helped the intelligent bodybuilder educate himself to levels that before were harder to attain. Before knowledge was handed down like karate. And it was all about who you knew. If you got hooked up with the right people then you were had a chance but if you hooked up with the wrong people prepare for bitch tits from the beginning.

In my entire bodybuilding life, whether as a younger guy trying to live the dream or now just doing it for the love, the only place I've ever heard of PCT is on internet forums. I'm sure if Greg Valentino walked into my gym half the guys there would think he was a pro bodybuilder and would ask him for advice on how to get that big.

Broscience has pretty much ruled bodybuilding up until now. Even now your "average" guy at the gym has no clue whatsoever what the "F" he's doing.

When was the last time you asked a currently competing bodybuilder a serious question about a serious topic and gotten a straight answer.

If you asked Jay Cutler in public if Cell-Tech and Nitro-Tech were the keys to his success I would venture to say that he would say, "yes."

It's only when pros retire that they are willing to divulge they're secrets, as if. I'm waiting for the current crop to get older and low on money, maybe one of them will put out a true tell all book on what is really going on in pro bodybuilding.

I love this sport, but magazines, supplement ads and diet secrets insult my intelligence.