Binge eating

[JahMuscle]

Hey guys,
As of the last 6 months I have been struggling with an eating disorder- binge eating, that has become progressively worse. 2 years ago, I was 17 years old 185 ripped and in the best shape of my life. 2 years later, i weigh 235( granted i have alot more muscle) but am not nearly as thin, ripped, and confident as I used to be. I am thoroughly educated in diet and exercise but I just cant seem to stick to a clean diet. and when I deviate- which I do often- I go all out. I've considered professional help and/or 12 step meetings to help combat this problem, but I would really prefer to do it on my own with some support and return to the stud i used to be . Any help is much appreciated !

[xXxKidderxXx]

when u start binge eating just tell yourself your cheating yourself and your not gonna like where your heading

[JahMuscle]

Originally Posted by xXxKidderxXx

when u start binge eating just tell yourself your cheating yourself and your not gonna like where your heading

that doesn't really seem to help..the urge is almost animalistic..primal

[honeydew]

binge eating does not mean that "you don't want it bad enough" or that you have "no willpower"
firstly, don't get down on yourself for the episodes.
If you weren't getting something out of it you wouldn't be doing it, so try and think about what purpose it's serving you. To track where they're coming from write down or think about how you feel before AND after you overindulge.
secondly, it's not actually about the food. It's decieving b/c they taste good, but eating past the point where you're full shines on an underlying issue, more so if it's interfering with your goals.
Many pple deal with this issue I would just do some thinking about your feelings towards yourself....and if you have an 'all or nothing' attitude towards working out and eating habits I would ditch that.

[CorruptSilence]

Sorry I can't offer you a magic pill, or wave my wand and fix it all right now. (If I could I'd use it on myself. lol) That is how I went from a ripped 185 lbs. to a rolling 315 lbs. You have made the most important step in realizing that it is a problem. Now you have to do something about it. This is a process. A mental exercise and test that you have to conduct on yourself daily. Pre-portion your meals to force yourself at the very least to realize, "Hey, this is what you get. If you exceed this you are screwing yourself and any future progression." Like I said, it is an exercise just as lifting or cardio is an exercise. You have to have that type of mentality towards it in my opinion. Eventually you will become better and more efficient at your goal. It really comes down to self discipline. There is no other answer short of having someone hand feed you and locking up the fridge and cupboards so that you can't access them. Just decide to succeed and in time you will.

[honeydew]

also to add...thinking about your 'old self' will not get you anywhere except feeling worse.
This is the new you it's the only thing that matters right now instead of competing with your old self make new goals that apply to yourself now! for instance, if you go a long time without binging and general good feelings toward food and yourself pat yourself on the back for that instead of thinking I'm still not as thin as two years ago.....
GL

[Bo DeLone]

Binge eating is programmed into human genes.

Check out the advanced nutrition forum for intermittent fasting and the warrior diet and try it.

Don't listen to the nonsense about portion control because it doesn't work well for most people .

[boogiepop]

Read "A guide to flexible dieting" by Lyle McDonald.

[dust1984]

Hey man I feel ya!!!!! There's something in me that pushes me to eat eat eat! It was rare for there to ever be left overs at the house. Especially now, McD's extra Big Mac for 69 cents.... Jesus man, it's driving me crazy.... When you atleast start making an attempt to eat better you feel so much better that even the cheat days are depressing b/c you want to succeed. Atleast that's how it is for me... Something that has helped me in my eating habits is water, drink a ton of water when I start feeling like I'm going to starve for no reason. Drink my water then get something healthy, it never really curbs the feeling of pleasure, in my case, but! I do feel full and it reminds me that I don't need to keep eating. It's the pleasure of eating a lg pizza not that I need it, don't buy it, that's how I don't do it. go to lanaseggwhites.com and order a bucket of eggs. Lots of food and quick + protein.... Not a pro by any means at dieting or lifting but Iam a pro at eating

[cyclistgod]

Hello, well let me ask you something, are you rich? Because when you binge-eat you throw away down the toilet weeks and weeks of expensive diets, expensive whey-protein powders, and not only that, but also weeks or even months of hunger-pangs, hard heavy weight training and weeks or months of exhausting aerobics.

So it's really really counter-productive to binge-eat. Because a binge-eating pig out has about 5000 to 10,000 calories, compared with a controlled cheat meal which might have 500 to 1500 calories.

So i think you need some therapy from a psychologist doctor and help

Thanx and good luck


cyclistgod

Originally Posted by JahMuscle

Hey guys,
As of the last 6 months I have been struggling with an eating disorder- binge eating, that has become progressively worse. 2 years ago, I was 17 years old 185 ripped and in the best shape of my life. 2 years later, i weigh 235( granted i have alot more muscle) but am not nearly as thin, ripped, and confident as I used to be. I am thoroughly educated in diet and exercise but I just cant seem to stick to a clean diet. and when I deviate- which I do often- I go all out. I've considered professional help and/or 12 step meetings to help combat this problem, but I would really prefer to do it on my own with some support and return to the stud i used to be . Any help is much appreciated !

[honeydew]

once a week most likely won't affect many pples physiques. However it is 100% reliant on your current physique (if you're already lean you'll obviously burn it off faster), how fast your natural metabolism is, and how hard you workout. That being said being content with eating to the point of vomiting may be okay with some pple, but binge eating is a disorder where you can't stop if you want to and it occurring often enough to interfere with your life.

[CorruptSilence]

Originally Posted by MagicFnNic

To everyone saying that 1 day of binge eating ruins weeks of training....welll I cant describe in words how wrong you are lol. I used to binge eat once a week until i barfed and it didnt make me gain any fat whatsoever now did I stop losing weight. You sirs, are very incorrect.

I don't think that anyone said that 1 day would ruin weeks of training?.?. And the way it is described, it sounds like the OP is doing it more often then one day a week.

[mikelog]

I had the same problem during my senior year of high school. I would diet until I was going crazy, then I would fall off and eat until I was worse than when I began. Not to mention, you screw up your eating habits when you try to become too healthy too fast. You can't change habits overnight, you must do it in steps. Plus, you have to allow yourself to have whatever you want once in a while or you will not stick to any plan. Nobody is perfect.

[Mr13percent]

check your diet OP. you're probably eating a lot less than you should which could be triggering your binge attacks. you should only be eating eating a couple hundred calories off your maintenance level

[Vietgoboi]

Originally Posted by JahMuscle

that doesn't really seem to help..the urge is almost animalistic..primal

Keep going with your instincts then.


Sooner or later you have to learn to adapt mentally, if you want to lose the extra weight.

[cyclistgod]

Instead of binge-eating what you can do is to eat an extra controlled cheat meal of 1000 calories over your regular low calorie regimen. You can buy that low calorie light-bread which has around 40 calories per slice and prepare some sandwiches with it or some french toasts with egg-beaters,

cyclistgod

Originally Posted by JahMuscle

Hey guys,
As of the last 6 months I have been struggling with an eating disorder- binge eating, that has become progressively worse. 2 years ago, I was 17 years old 185 ripped and in the best shape of my life. 2 years later, i weigh 235( granted i have alot more muscle) but am not nearly as thin, ripped, and confident as I used to be. I am thoroughly educated in diet and exercise but I just cant seem to stick to a clean diet. and when I deviate- which I do often- I go all out. I've considered professional help and/or 12 step meetings to help combat this problem, but I would really prefer to do it on my own with some support and return to the stud i used to be . Any help is much appreciated !

[SeanEH]

Originally Posted by Mr13percent

check your diet OP. you're probably eating a lot less than you should which could be triggering your binge attacks.

I think so too. Or you probably were initially, at least.

If this was happening to me, I'd just find an expert and get it under control. I like to take care of my business in the fastest, easiest, most efficient way. I don't know exactly what that would be for you, but I know there are trained people out there who do. It's not like what's going on with you is some big mystery. This stuff has been heavily researched.

I guess you could try and tough it out on your own as well, if you want, but I thought you just wasted six months of your life trying to do that. And I'm sure people mean well, but I have this feeling that advice on the finer aspects of willpower and self-control isn't going to be much help for you.

[JahMuscle]

see, the problem with professional advice is the answer they will provide me. A dietician will tell me i cant diet, cant restrict AT ALL, cant have a body building lifestyle which is the antithesis of how I want to live my life. This day is going good so far..maintained healthy low carb eating every 3 hours..feedback has definitely helped. I'm just trying to get as many tips as possible because I know there are people who have overcome it without professional counsel.

[cyclistgod]

I used to binge-eat compulsively, non-stop. But i've figured out that instead of binge-eating, i just have a controlled cheat-meal. The good thing about a controlled cheat meal is that you are still allowed to eat a lot on controlled cheat-meal but it's a lot less calories than a binge. Because a binge-eating pig out might have around 10,000 calories which is a lot more than a cheat meal of 1000 little calories which could be easily burned and won't make you gain an ounce of fat. The real damage comes from the binge-eating, like a christmas dinner or a thanksgiving dinner which are binge-eatings of thousands and thousands of calories


cyclistgod

Originally Posted by JahMuscle

see, the problem with professional advice is the answer they will provide me. A dietician will tell me i cant diet, cant restrict AT ALL, cant have a body building lifestyle which is the antithesis of how I want to live my life. This day is going good so far..maintained healthy low carb eating every 3 hours..feedback has definitely helped. I'm just trying to get as many tips as possible because I know there are people who have overcome it without professional counsel.

[JahMuscle]

Originally Posted by cyclistgod

I used to binge-eat compulsively, non-stop. But i've figured out that instead of binge-eating, i just have a controlled cheat-meal. The good thing about a controlled cheat meal is that you are still allowed to eat a lot on controlled cheat-meal but it's a lot less calories than a binge. Because a binge-eating pig out might have around 10,000 calories which is a lot more than a cheat meal of 1000 little calories which could be easily burned and won't make you gain an ounce of fat. The real damage comes from the binge-eating, like a christmas dinner or a thanksgiving dinner which are binge-eatings of thousands and thousands of calories


cyclistgod

a controlled cheat meal...once a week ?

[JahMuscle]

bump

[ImTheRealArab]

I happen to like my approach a lot. 6 days clean, low calories, only carbs are post-workout carbs (no other carbs all 6 days). Then on one day, typically a work-out day, i eat whatever i want, usually doubling the amount of calories i eat on a clean day. 1700 cals to 3400-3700 cals. For me its been working great.

[SeanEH]

Originally Posted by JahMuscle

see, the problem with professional advice is the answer they will provide me.

Oh, I see, THAT'S the problem. I thought the problem was something else. Okay, good luck.

Pay no attention to the many people on this forum who followed professional advice and look fantastic.

[johnderriLLL]

just say no.

[cyclistgod]

Not once a week, but 2 times a month, or every month. The longer you space out your controlled cheat meals the better it is. I read that people with slower metabolism have diet non-stop for longer periods, than people with faster metabolisms who can eat a cheat-meal every weekend and they still lose weight efficiently. But those folks with real slow metabolisms cannot afford to eat a 1000 calorie cheat-meal every weekend, because when you eat lots of carbohydrates together in one single meal your insulin levels will increase too much which would lead to automatic fat-storage. Remember that insulin is the fat-storage hormone, and the more insulin we produce the fatter we get.

So if i was you, i would have a controlled cheat-meal of about between 1000 to 2000 calories every 2 weeks, or once a month or every 2 months.

You could eat a big submarine sandwhich with 800 calories of ham and cheese and 700 calories of french or cuban-bread, (1500 calories in total) or or a whey-protein pancake made with 5 scoops of whey protein powder, 2 cups of egg-beaters, 1 cup of milk, and 1 cup of white-flour. which would be a protein pancake of 1500 calories (A lot less than a 10,000 binge-eating pig out). Or a whole Digiorno Pizza which has around 1500 calories. However pizzas are too high in carbohydrates, and not in protein, and i've noticed that foods high in carbohydrates and low in protein don't really satisfy the hunger. I would go for the sandwich-submarine, which is higher in protein than the Digiorno Pizza, or the whey protein pancake, or a big hamburger with 800 calories of burger-meat and about 600 calories of bread.

cyclistgod

Originally Posted by JahMuscle

a controlled cheat meal...once a week ?

[JahMuscle]

Originally Posted by SeanEH

Oh, I see, THAT'S the problem. I thought the problem was something else. Okay, good luck.

Pay no attention to the many people on this forum who followed professional advice and look fantastic.

I think its evident you dont have much experience in this area..professional counsel will instruct you to do things that conflict with a body building lifestyle...been there done that. on day 3 now and doing good so..