Serge Nubret, BodyBuilding Legend

[Armando777]

Originally Posted by Dark_Musings

Hypoglycemia is low blood sugar not high blood sugar.

Your brain is like any engine: it uses fuel, and an oxidizer to burn that fuel. Your car's engine uses oxygen to burn gasoline. The brain uses oxygen to burn glucose. In a hypoglycemic coma the brain's glucose fuel has dropped too low so that the brain reacts the same way a car engine does when the gasoline supply to the cylinders drops too low. Your car can stall without gasoline, and your brain can stall if it doesn't get enough glucose. If the situation isn't alleviated quickly, brain damage can result. It doesn't often get that bad, but if that's what happened, then I'm afraid Serge is in trouble.

|ceman:

<<I don't think anyone that posts here knows for sure. Apparently some people close to the situation know, but they aren't speaking the truth.>>

This is probably the most relevant statement yet.

This has been the most amazing thread I've seen in a while. Nothing we've heard has ever really made sense. A while back I posted listing inconsistencies like Serge was said to be walking on his own but also deep in a medically induced coma. That sort of nonsense.

Then we heard from Was it Shawn Ray? that it was a family conspiracy to take him out. No clue what the motive was, but he was supposedly poisoned at one daughter's house, and I read the other daughter was the doctor in charge of his care and was keeping everyone from seeing him? An obvious conspiracy like that would have been uncovered in a day by police and arrests made. Yet weeks go by with nothing. So the conspiracy theory is pretty shaky also.

Now we're hearing it's a diabetic coma. If Serge was still on his diet of beans and rice he should have had plenty of glucose for workouts. He posted many times how important it was to supply the body with fuel. I believe his idea was eat a lot in the evening to make sure your body was fueled. It wouldn't make much sense either, except possibly for this quote from Madame Meso:

<<The fact that Serge was catching colds and flu quite often was a sign TO ME that his immune system may have been compromised. Maybe he was pushing himself too much. He was definately on a mission. I know that if you push to hard, with not enough rest, your body will MAKE you slow down. It will revolt against you.>>

He is a 70 year old man who, from all accounts, was working out like he was 20. Actually I doubt many 20-year olds work out like Serge. But Madame Meso may be on to something here. His 70 year old body might have finally just decided it had had enough. If it fell enough out of whack, it might have triggered some other health issues, like a suppressed immune system or a reduced capacity to regulate blood sugar or a hundred other things that can go wrong as people age and overexert themselves.

With all these unknowns I have finally accepted one absolute certainty: it's entirely possible that we may never really know what happened to Serge. Whoever updated the Wiki still says it was a stroke, but who can truly say? It's beginning to look like we'll just each have to deal with this in our own way.

We all miss you, Serge. Here's hoping you get well soon, old buddy.

Dark Musings,

So you are saying 0 carb or all protein diet has this risk (hypoglycemic coma)?

[Kelei]

Originally Posted by Armando777

Dark Musings,

So you are saying 0 carb or all protein diet has this risk (hypoglycemic coma)?

Unless there was some pre-existing fault with his pancreas (which I doubt because there would of been obvious warning signs) then the most likely explanation is some form of drug overdose. There are many repartitioning drugs that can cause hypoglycemia and even death when used in excessive amounts.

[Dark_Musings]

Originally Posted by Armando777

Dark Musings,

So you are saying 0 carb or all protein diet has this risk (hypoglycemic coma)?

Your liver creates glucose mainly from carbs you eat using the glycogen cycle. This is one of the jobs of the liver. It can produce glucose from protein under emergency conditions, such as no available carbohydrates, or from your muscles if you're truly starving. In a lack of carbs the body also converts fats, consumed or bodyfats, to energy by a process called ketosis, but that's another topic. But to address your question, in an absence of carbs your liver has other options, yes. However, keep reading.

Your body uses glucose for fuel. If your blood sugar levels rise or fall too much the liver compensates by adjusting the amount of sugars it allows to flow into the bloodstream. The pancreas is what tells the liver to make this adjustment. In the case of hypoglycemia, the pancreas would release the hormone glucagen as a trigger signal to tell the liver it needs to release more glucose in order to restore the balance. With hyperglycemia, the pancreas will use insulin as a trigger hormone to tell the liver to produce less glucose. Insulin both tells the liver to cut back glucose production as well as signaling your body's cells that there is glucose in the blood they need to absorb to store as fuel.

It works beautifully in a healthy person. And to address something that might be worrying you, if you're healthy then you don't get low or high blood sugar. That's what being healthy means. If your body is having trouble regulating it's blood sugar then that means you're diabetic and not healthy. That's what being diabetic means. The idea a healthy person has to eat every 2-3 hours to avoid low blood sugar is quite frankly absurd. It's one of the modern myths that somehow get started and continues to make the talk show rounds, like the idea you need 8 big glasses of water every day.

With Type I or II diabetes the pancreas/liver regulatory system is malfunctioning to various degrees.

With Type I, which often has a strong genetic component, the pancreas can no longer produce insulin. So it cannot signal the liver that blood sugar is rising dangerously high. Plus without the trigger signal, cells will not absorb the glucose in the blood. So it builds up. High blood sugar over time will rot you to your core. The only cure for this is medical insulin, which is adminstered in the proper dosage keep blood sugar level correct.

With Type II, which is usually caused by unhealthy lifestyle choices (too many sweets, too much fat, too little exercise) the body loses sensitivity to insulin. The body still produces insulin, but the body becomes deaf you might say, to the insulin signal. The liver doesn't know the correct blood sugar level that exists and so has no idea how much sugar to release or not release. This explains how diabetics can wake up in the morning with a higher blood sugar level than they went to sleep with. During the night their confused liver dumped an incorrect amount of glucose into the blood.

Another problem is during this condition the cells that would normally receive the glucose, don't recognize the insulin signal that there is glucose available. So the glucose stockpiles in the blood instead of being distributed into the cells. Think of that like the UPS guy is knocking on the door to deliver a package, but you don't hear him so he leaves it on the porch. This happens every day so the packages begin piling up on the porch instead of being stored in the house.

All this can play out differently in different people. If the liver cuts back sugar production too much the person goes hypoglycemic. If it starts dumping too much they go hyperglycemic. Either can lead to coma or death. With uncontrolled Type II, constant high blood sugars can eventually wreck the pancreas (and other organs) and its ability to produce insulin at all, leading to Type I.

If Serge in fact did have a hypoglycemic reaction, then there's really no conclusion we can reach except that he had developed some form of diabetes. From what Madame Meso said, it sounds like he was aware of his condition as well. The colds and flus I don't quite get since I'm not sure that is a common symptom of diabetes. Uncontrolled diabetes can wreak unholy havoc on the body though, so I suppose his immune system could have been severely depressed as Madame Meso suggested, which might let in more common illnesses. Or he might have other issues we have no clue about. Without accurate information we're really reduced to pretty much guessing. And keep in mind though that a healthy person doesn't have these issues. If you're healthy and don't starve yourself for weeks at a time you'll be fine.

Another poster suggested some kind of drug overdose could have caused Serge to fall into a hypoglycemic coma. I suppose it's possible. Pregnancy can disrupt a woman's hormonal system enough to give her gestational diabetes. I really am not a drug expert, and I notice the poster didn't provide any details of his theory, so who knows what happened? It's all been very mysterious and secretive. I hate to think he was using gear or insulin to get ready for the show, and I probably wouldn't believe it unless he says he did, but those drugs are very powerful. They have a lot of potential for harm. All we can do is hope for the best.

I know I said more than you really asked for, but I hope this helps explain what I meant in the first post.

[WaterBlender]

Originally Posted by Dark_Musings

I know I said more than you really asked for, but I hope this helps explain what I meant in the first post.

on a side note, we really need to start making good informative posts like this.
most informative post in almost 30+ pages

[Serge_My_Hero]

[QUOTE=hercules88;343902551]how is the day been ? just a note : having some time off for a shoulder injury.(seing an osteopath on thursday this week) and am keen a s Mustard to go and train this sunday if possible.

I went to see my doctor and had an MRI done. The doctor looked at the MRI and said there is nothing torn inside my rotator cuff, only inflamataion causing impingement. He gave me a cortisone shot in the shoulder and recommended some physical therapy.

My shoulder is feeling much better now and I am back to normal training. yesterday I did chest at lunch and legs in the evening. It felt great! Today I have shoulders and back.

I will be 45 on July 13th and I want to look my best so its good to be training!

[d16daily]

Originally Posted by Kiwi_

His kids sound like little bastards..

Just sayin..

wow what disrespect for such a legend, wouldn't expect anything less from a



oh and the sig, why don't you just go visit him in a wooden horse

where are the mods when u need 'em.

[|ceman]

Originally Posted by d16daily

wow what disrespect for such a legend, wouldn't expect anything less from a

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oh and the sig, why don't you just go visit him in a wooden horse

where are the mods when u need 'em.

Kiwi_ has been a long time poster in this thread. If you were aware of the whole issue at hand, you would know he meant no disrespect to Serge and is speaking as such considering that it is rumored that his children are the ones who poisoned him.

[Kiwi_]

Ignore him |ceman, he's only saying that because I alerted the mods to his posting behaviour earlier today.

[StevenNevets]

I'm just entering this thread for the first time.

Cliffs? (no disrespect, don't have time to read giant topic)

[WaterBlender]

Originally Posted by StevenNevets

I'm just entering this thread for the first time.

Cliffs? (no disrespect, don't have time to read giant topic)

2nd thread of legendary bodybuilder.
Shares his training philosophy and principles for free, even gives an example routine for everyone to go by until they get the system down and are able to make their own routines.

people log on and ask questions concerning the routine, and about serge himself.

recently serge stopped posting, currently in hospital, several rumors have been going around. official story released by family but is suspicious as things don't add up with eye-witness accounts.
people attempting to get authorities or some support to get serge the help he needs.

still waiting for official 'official' statement.
everyone will rest once serge himself or someone as trustworthy explains what happened.

while you're here, try out serge's routine, read the first ten page. should get you started.

have nice day

[reaperschild]

wow all this information and rumors of some scandal going around are making my head spin. words keep changing left and right. i hope he gets better because i have been wanting to go to europe and train with him. i could never have imagined something like this happeing to him. i mean its like if you turned on the news tomorrow and find out jack lalanne died of a heart attack. its just as shocking

[Madame Meso]

Originally Posted by hercules88

to Madam Meso : hi how are you keeping well? your new picture is a glowing and smile is pricless. its sad that you are so close to serge and all of sudden this tragedy happens,sorry to hear all this and feel like we losing a great instructor/mentor. but Madam,you are walking inspiration and testament to serge,s training methods. keep up the faith and love learn and teach as he did. i found Serge,s routines at a moderate level not advanced to be amazing. im 41 and not to brag have a body of a god (sure i have under the layers) this is due to following the rest times serge has mentioned and also the correct weight,s to lift... im more than sure if i can focus little more and not drink too much wine,would make serge proud one day...he inspired me from age of 18 when i travel to italy and by chance found a bodybuilding magazine with serge on the front cover...amazing.....take care and lets try to keep this thread growing.....maybe there could be a fan club we could arrange!!!!! some thing the family might wish to create if they wish to...just feel like keeping the flame going ...peace all...ciao...for the memories here is a pic of avtar WOW .....

Hercules88, thank you so much for your kind words. I am doing well, considering the circumstances. I do really miss Serge though. Today I was organizing some paperwork and I found a printed Instant Message conversation Serge and I had. As I read it I could almost hear his voice speaking the words. Ironically, in that conversation, he was complaining about feeling sick and needing to go to the doctor. I told him, please go because I don't want anything happening to you. Reading that whole dialogue kinda gave me chills because of where we are today. Once again, thank you for your kind words and I wish you the best of success with your training. I'm still Nubretizing. I feel more motivated than ever to hit it hard now....for Serge. That's what we all should do. Put his methods into action like never before and show everyone what a Master Teacher Serge is and how effective his program is. That's what Serge would want us to do. That's why he shared everything he had with us all. I know many of us are already employing his methods, but I'd like to ask that we kick it up a few notches in honor of Serge. That's the type of positive energy and thoughts that Serge needs directed his way.

Serge Nubret pour toujours! Serge longtemps de phase!
(Serge Nubret forever! Long live Serge!)

[Madame Meso]

Originally Posted by WaterBlender

2nd thread of legendary bodybuilder.
Shares his training philosophy and principles for free, even gives an example routine for everyone to go by until they get the system down and are able to make their own routines.

people log on and ask questions concerning the routine, and about serge himself.

recently serge stopped posting, currently in hospital, several rumors have been going around. official story released by family but is suspicious as things don't add up with eye-witness accounts.
people attempting to get authorities or some support to get serge the help he needs.

still waiting for official 'official' statement.
everyone will rest once serge himself or someone as trustworthy explains what happened.

while you're here, try out serge's routine, read the first ten page. should get you started.

have nice day

Wow! WaterBlender that was excellent! A skill I wish I had.

[C-24]

Originally Posted by Madame Meso

Hercules88, thank you so much for your kind words. I am doing well, considering the circumstances. I do really miss Serge though. Today I was organizing some paperwork and I found a printed Instant Message conversation Serge and I had. As I read it I could almost hear his voice speaking the words. Ironically, in that conversation, he was complaining about feeling sick and needing to go to the doctor. I told him, please go because I don't want anything happening to you. Reading that whole dialogue kinda gave me chills because of where we are today. Once again, thank you for your kind words and I wish you the best of success with your training. I'm still Nubretizing. I feel more motivated than ever to hit it hard now....for Serge. That's what we all should do. Put his methods into action like never before and show everyone what a Master Teacher Serge is and how effective his program is. That's what Serge would want us to do. That's why he shared everything he had with us all. I know many of us are already employing his methods, but I'd like to ask that we kick it up a few notches in honor of Serge. That's the type of positive energy and thoughts that Serge needs directed his way.

Serge Nubret pour toujours! Serge longtemps de phase!
(Serge Nubret forever! Long live Serge!)

The way I train in the gym is different from the others. I have to. I am natural and that means I need discipline and intense focus in order to keep up with my gains. I also accept no limitations to what my physique can achieve, but I keep one thing in my mind... proportions.
People tell me my trainings last too long, I should be training 45min... I then ask those people, do you know who Steve Reeves and Serge Nubret are ?

When you look at the physique of those, you know that they knew how to workout. I learned so much by reading their books, they share truely effective knowledge but equally as important they share positive thoughts.
I had such a chance to talk to Serge Nubret on the forum, even on the phone, that the least I can do right now is to share what I have learned from him to other people that are still interested into building a quality, healthy physique.

But there's something else, maybe even more important... The kind of bodybuilding you learn from the greatest bodybuilders of the old school (John Grimek, George Eiferman, Steve Reeves, Serge Nubret) is that it's something you do on the long run, it's a lifestyle.
Look at Serge, he's 70 and before this happened, he was strong like a horse, big, in a shape that the majority of us would want at such an age (or even at half that age!), why was he still into training so much ? What did he have to gain from that ?
He already gained so much popularity so why would he train that hard and guest pose at the Mr. Olympia ?
In my opinion, it's simple, he did that for us, who still believe into the 'old' kind of bodybuilding, he did that to show to hundred of thousands of people that you can still have the heart to do what you love at 70 years old, something that most of todays competitor might not do (no disrespect to Ronnie, Jay and the other big dudes, but you all know that it would simply be impossible for them to do the same).

What happened then is a shame, because it sounds like a conspiracy against him... it's sad, we never know what we may discover on the subject in the near future, but I believe in him, he was honest and a true teacher (show me other bodybuilding teachers today...).

I hope he will recover and that someday I might show him my progress since the first time I started participating to the first thread until now... Because I gained 15kg of muscles during that time.
Bottom line is, I know there were some people here that followed Serge's advices, I hope they still do because consistency is the key to our goals. Show to the others what you learned, show that with your physique !

[Tommy1988]

Very well said, I agree C-24.
About Serge in hospital, I have been told 3 different stories by his children to why he is there... I saw him in person, read him the card, saw his reaction.. and alot of things I will share another time about what I witnessed. I can add this to the equation for you to think about.. when I was there and visited him in his room, i was not the only one, sometimes I was there on my own, sometimes with some of his friends or his family...
Alot of the time anybody could just walk into his room without the hospital staff even knowing you were there, and could do anything because Serge is struggling to move, and there is a lady who is a family friend, who Serge personally hates... and this woman was in his room most days from what I saw... without supervision from the hospital staff... so I would like to get him some protection/security at least.

[Kiwi_]

Damn Tommy, you need to go down there and start kicking some asses >:O

[hercules88]

hello all , hope the day has gone well for all and to hear some good news would be nice..Today went to have my fathers eyes checked for cataracts and he has two to remove, he is also 71 like serge but little softer round the abs..ha ha.

this is it we age and wear n tear does eventualy set in, on a positive note are there any readers out there in the eightys or ninetys? wonder what its like to reach 100... so working on this shoulder problem and just modified my bed to lower the right arm down when sleeping, what i made up was like an extra head rest with a cavatiy to slide my arm down into .it is at the head rest side of the bed and will try it out tonight. find that the neck can pinch on the nerves in the shoulder area and hope that by trying this position with the arm placed lower than the matress level (finaly will find a relief to this nagging pain in the neck/shoulder.) there is some arthritis in the neck so we see how it goes... sounds like im complaining but wish to be in top condition to train again, any way all take it day at atime and look after your self...ciao........


p.s. just for laugh have you heard of the 3 wise monks?
ok here is NO HEAR, NO SEE AND NO SMOKE...........KEEP FIT EVERYONE AND LETS GET EXCITED!

[Madame Meso]

Originally Posted by C-24

The way I train in the gym is different from the others. I have to. I am natural and that means I need discipline and intense focus in order to keep up with my gains. I also accept no limitations to what my physique can achieve, but I keep one thing in my mind... proportions.
People tell me my trainings last too long, I should be training 45min... I then ask those people, do you know who Steve Reeves and Serge Nubret are ?

When you look at the physique of those, you know that they knew how to workout. I learned so much by reading their books, they share truely effective knowledge but equally as important they share positive thoughts.
I had such a chance to talk to Serge Nubret on the forum, even on the phone, that the least I can do right now is to share what I have learned from him to other people that are still interested into building a quality, healthy physique.

But there's something else, maybe even more important... The kind of bodybuilding you learn from the greatest bodybuilders of the old school (John Grimek, George Eiferman, Steve Reeves, Serge Nubret) is that it's something you do on the long run, it's a lifestyle.
Look at Serge, he's 70 and before this happened, he was strong like a horse, big, in a shape that the majority of us would want at such an age (or even at half that age!), why was he still into training so much ? What did he have to gain from that ?
He already gained so much popularity so why would he train that hard and guest pose at the Mr. Olympia ?
In my opinion, it's simple, he did that for us, who still believe into the 'old' kind of bodybuilding, he did that to show to hundred of thousands of people that you can still have the heart to do what you love at 70 years old, something that most of todays competitor might not do (no disrespect to Ronnie, Jay and the other big dudes, but you all know that it would simply be impossible for them to do the same).

What happened then is a shame, because it sounds like a conspiracy against him... it's sad, we never know what we may discover on the subject in the near future, but I believe in him, he was honest and a true teacher (show me other bodybuilding teachers today...).

I hope he will recover and that someday I might show him my progress since the first time I started participating to the first thread until now... Because I gained 15kg of muscles during that time.
Bottom line is, I know there were some people here that followed Serge's advices, I hope they still do because consistency is the key to our goals. Show to the others what you learned, show that with your physique !

Beautifully put. It's on us. We've been fed by the man himself....what more can we ask for?

[Kiwi_]

Hey Tommy let us know what Bob has to say about that pm you sent him.

[Armando777]

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/190/4...ec5cdd.jpg?v=0

[dippeli]

you guys think serge really did 10x1000 reps bodyweigth squats after quads-day (mon,thu) before contest or was it a joke? I think that is the most incredible thing he had done if it is true. I can do like 100 before I am burnt up hahahaa

[C-24]

Originally Posted by dippeli

you guys think serge really did 10x1000 reps bodyweigth squats after quads-day (mon,thu) before contest or was it a joke? I think that is the most incredible thing he had done if it is true. I can do like 100 before I am burnt up hahahaa

It wasn't a joke... After doing 1000reps he would walk slowly in the gym to help the muscles relax... then he would continue the next set. 10 times.
I tried that once, I used to do 350-450reps in one set and I would do as many set to come to about 1250-1500reps total.

[TheStiffmeister]

Originally Posted by C-24

It wasn't a joke... After doing 1000reps he would walk slowly in the gym to help the muscles relax... then he would continue the next set. 10 times.
I tried that once, I used to do 350-450reps in one set and I would do as many set to come to about 1250-1500reps total.

i call bull**** unless you can provide video proof. hola bola did high reps and hit over 100 and that guy is a monster. your weight and height have me seriously doubting what you just posted.

[Armando777]

Originally Posted by C-24

It wasn't a joke... After doing 1000reps he would walk slowly in the gym to help the muscles relax... then he would continue the next set. 10 times.
I tried that once, I used to do 350-450reps in one set and I would do as many set to come to about 1250-1500reps total.

Serge not only mentioned that massive squat reps on this site, but on other sites as well.
Serge went all out on his routine, completely.

[C-24]

Originally Posted by TheStiffmeister

i call bull**** unless you can provide video proof. hola bola did high reps and hit over 100 and that guy is a monster. your weight and height have me seriously doubting what you just posted.

I'm not gonna post a video, so you can call it whatever you like it. My stats are from 2007, so give me a break.
In fact you're just saying that what Serge said was BS because I'm only telling what I've learned (and tried) from him. Look at his picture before going to South Africa, when he has a beard, that's when he did a lot of those, nobody ever had such legs.

Oh, didn't I mention it's hardcore ? So if you got the motivation, do it, otherwise don't call yourself a bodybuilder. I gained 4kg in my legs in less than two weeks by doing this, and they got more cut, I had 73cm quads. That's the only proof you'll get, I'm not there to please you with posting a video of me doing one hour of squats. Try it by yourself.

[Serge_My_Hero]

Originally Posted by C-24

I'm not gonna post a video, so you can call it whatever you like it. My stats are from 2007, so give me a break.
In fact you're just saying that what Serge said was BS because I'm only telling what I've learned (and tried) from him. Look at his picture before going to South Africa, when he has a beard, that's when he did a lot of those, nobody ever had such legs.

Oh, didn't I mention it's hardcore ? So if you got the motivation, do it, otherwise don't call yourself a bodybuilder. I gained 4kg in my legs in less than two weeks by doing this, and they got more cut, I had 73cm quads. That's the only proof you'll get, I'm not there to please you with posting a video of me doing one hour of squats. Try it by yourself.

How far down are you going when you do these bodyweight squats? To parallel? Are your hands out in front or on your waist? I guess it really doesn't matter that much, because the reps will kill your quads no matter how you do them. I've never thought of this exercise as a way to put on size.

[WaterBlender]

Originally Posted by TheStiffmeister

i call bull**** unless you can provide video proof. hola bola did high reps and hit over 100 and that guy is a monster. your weight and height have me seriously doubting what you just posted.

just checked out hola bola's profile, dude's a TANK.
but his training style is different, he does a moderate volume bodybuilding routine.
serge trained high volume and had developed excellent endurance.

when youlook at serge's training style it makes sense, but the part that i'm having trouble believing is only the set number, 1000 reps sure, but 10 sets. jaw to the floor.
i can go for 5-7.


speaking of videos. serge should've made a video of him getting back into shape at 70.
THAT DVD would've sold like crazy. not mention constant reposting of the youtube video in the IFBB section

[WaterBlender]

Originally Posted by C-24

Oh, didn't I mention it's hardcore ? So if you got the motivation, do it, otherwise don't call yourself a bodybuilder. I gained 4kg in my legs in less than two weeks by doing this, and they got more cut, I had 73cm quads. That's the only proof you'll get, I'm not there to please you with posting a video of me doing one hour of squats. Try it by yourself.

how do you know the weight went solely to your legs?

BTW, i hope your taking before and after's, your transformation should be an awesome inspiration for everyone here.

Originally Posted by Serge_My_Hero

How far down are you going when you do these bodyweight squats? To parallel? Are your hands out in front or on your waist? I guess it really doesn't matter that much, because the reps will kill your quads no matter how you do them. I've never thought of this exercise as a way to put on size.

serge used it during contest time only, as a way to get more cut, i don't remember him saying anything about using it to put on size, but i do see how it can.

keep a puke bucket handy!

[Armando777]

I think Serge mentioned that your legs had to be pretty big in the first place, before trying the thousands of squats.
Remember Serge did bodybuilding, first for himself than competition.
I think he also put aesthetics before size as some would call it- perfection.

[C-24]

Originally Posted by Serge_My_Hero

How far down are you going when you do these bodyweight squats? To parallel? Are your hands out in front or on your waist? I guess it really doesn't matter that much, because the reps will kill your quads no matter how you do them. I've never thought of this exercise as a way to put on size.

That's a good question ! You do 1/3 of the movement, so it's also far from parallel. I would place the hands behind my head (like when you do abdominals).
When I asked Serge why only 1/3 of the movement should be executed, he said that even with 1/3 the quads are efficiently contracted and the high number of reps is finishing them hardcore, since you don't rest during the set. It burns like hell...

I didn't think of it as an exercice to put on size, I thought it will get me cut only and make my whole body leaner (like a cardio thing), but that's the way I responded, it was really great.