MMA cardio questions..

luckymetshatt1 · 06-14-2009, 04:28 PM

my nutrition is solid, im trying to become a "Georges st pierre/ Matt hughes" if you will, go 110% the whole time and completely exhaust the other person during my grappling matches.

i would say i have above average conditioning right now..heres my routine as far as cardio:

2 days a week= 10 mile bikeride to mma, 10 mile home after classes

5 days a week= HIIT crossfit-type workouts in MMA/Boxing.

1 day a week 30 minutes eliptical trainer.

alot of these are doubled up on the same day, training twice daily with about 2 hour rest inbetween.

2 questions:

1. does this look like a good plan to increase endurance to you guys?
2. i dont know much about the sciences of cardio, i thought the "zones" was a myth, but i hear how its detrimental to go over X heartrate or something..i always figured, if im doing cardio i go as hard as i can untill i gas...just keep pushing, and then go hard again. is this wrong? do the zones matter?

jonnymontag · 06-14-2009, 04:33 PM

seems like too much cardio.

IMSHORT · 06-14-2009, 05:31 PM

Too much. Think about how a fight happens. your heart rate is up and down for like three five min rounds. MMA fighers shouldnt do long bouts of cardio. Save your energy for class.

luckymetshatt1 · 06-14-2009, 07:11 PM

too much, even though im eating enough for it?

iamdumbpost · 06-14-2009, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by luckymetshatt1

too much, even though im eating enough for it?

I guess no one has ever heard of cardiac output

muse1988 · 06-14-2009, 09:18 PM

so the best thing is to do heaps of interval training? sprints and bag sessions?

TheClips · 06-14-2009, 09:20 PM

I'm also trying to find a way to build my cardio way the hell back up myself. It seems like although I'm much better than your average person when it comes to endurance or stamina, I still get the same amount of fatigue doing the same workouts I did to build myself up in the first place. It's like there's an end cap where it just doesn't seem to get any easier...

gainmusclefast · 06-14-2009, 09:23 PM

do some type of cardio after ur training sessions where u are already tired

IMSHORT · 06-15-2009, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by luckymetshatt1

too much, even though im eating enough for it?

There is nothing wrong with doing the cardio you are doing. It will put you in good shape. But, the best way to get ready for a fight is training to fight. Boxing, sparring, bjj, grappling, whatever. If you want to do extra cardio on the side, then set it up in the timeframe of a fight. So if you are running, then run for five, five min rounds. Anything you do outside of class will help as long as your body can handle it. So if you are not feeling like your overtraining then keep doing what you are doing. Eating enough is really improtant, its a good response. When I fought last I was eating close to 4000 calories a day, and im little.
I was training 4 hours a day, but the sessions were split throughout the day, so my body could recover. ANYWAY... what im trying to say is, find what works for you, but try to train as if you are fighting.

Jeremy90 · 06-15-2009, 10:15 AM

What work best for me is:

Hil Sprints
Jump Rope (20 sec intense 10 sec slow interval)
Grappling/Sparring
Circuits/Caveman

IMSHORT · 06-15-2009, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeremy90

What work best for me is:

Hil Sprints
Jump Rope (20 sec intense 10 sec slow interval)
Grappling/Sparring
Circuits/Caveman

That looks good. Nice and simple but effective. Try to see how long you can hold your breath during your jump rope sessions, makes it harder, but dont pass out. ha.

Rambo66 · 06-15-2009, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by luckymetshatt1

my nutrition is solid, im trying to become a "Georges st pierre/ Matt hughes" if you will, go 110% the whole time and completely exhaust the other person during my grappling matches.

i would say i have above average conditioning right now..heres my routine as far as cardio:

2 days a week= 10 mile bikeride to mma, 10 mile home after classes

5 days a week= HIIT crossfit-type workouts in MMA/Boxing.

1 day a week 30 minutes eliptical trainer.

alot of these are doubled up on the same day, training twice daily with about 2 hour rest inbetween.

2 questions:

1. does this look like a good plan to increase endurance to you guys?
2. i dont know much about the sciences of cardio, i thought the "zones" was a myth, but i hear how its detrimental to go over X heartrate or something..i always figured, if im doing cardio i go as hard as i can untill i gas...just keep pushing, and then go hard again. is this wrong? do the zones matter?

I would do more MMA. It looks like your only doin it twice a week unless the crossfit type workouts have mma in them. I knwo it says mma workout but does that mean your training technique rolling etc or are you juss hitting tires and doin burpees and more conditioning yourself than learning.

luckymetshatt1 · 06-15-2009, 12:05 PM

mma is techniques and after we do mma type conditioning. jiu jitsu 3 days a week, boxing 2 days a week.

killapig · 06-15-2009, 02:14 PM

Training what you want to improve is the absolute best way to increase endurance in that. So training in grappling or boxing or whatever will be the best. But in addition to that anaerobic training is the best. Sports are generally anaerobic in nature especially mma. So training aerobically (long cardio at the same intensity) isn't going to help for anaerobic activity (mma). So doing intervals, hill sprints, sled sprints, stuff like that will be superior to a 10 mile bike ride.