Dear Chieck Kongo (Spoiler) - Page 2

Hishiad · 06-15-2009, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by dun chavez

Let me humor you. I have a friend who is a purple belt in bjj, but i am 75 lbs heavier than him. he has challenged me to "roll" or grapple 100 times, and every time is the same thing. He goes to put some gay bjj move on me, and i completely overpower him, and choke him out. There is no defence for absolutley overwhelming power.

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you outweigh him by 75 pounds you d-bag.

215 rolling with a 140 how the hell is that even relative? that's like fighting a woman man.

No hate to the small guys but anyone can see why you "overwhelm" him with your "power" ask your friend if he knows any bigger guys at his BJJ school and then roll with one of them that's 185 or more and closer to your weight then report back to us.

eatsleephate · 06-15-2009, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by vikesfankevin

Wrestlers walk into that place everyday acting like they are the **** and get walked on. I'm just hoping that I am ahead of the game.

Because you read a book?

winthorpe · 06-15-2009, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by dun chavez

Let me humor you. I have a friend who is a purple belt in bjj, but i am 75 lbs heavier than him. he has challenged me to "roll" or grapple 100 times, and every time is the same thing. He goes to put some gay bjj move on me, and i completely overpower him, and choke him out. There is no defence for absolutley overwhelming power.

No. You're just that much of a badass.

vikesfankevin · 06-15-2009, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by eatsleephate

Because you read a book?

Yup thats exactly what I said. Why don't ya quote that for me.

cgc · 06-15-2009, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by dun chavez

Let me humor you. I have a friend who is a purple belt in bjj, but i am 75 lbs heavier than him. he has challenged me to "roll" or grapple 100 times, and every time is the same thing. He goes to put some gay bjj move on me, and i completely overpower him, and choke him out. There is no defence for absolutley overwhelming power.

Can I ask you what the heck that had to do with the conversation? Also, your one case is not the rule when it comes to power vs technique....
And remind me, how often do competitive fights take place with a 75 lb weight difference? Never? OK...thanks.

Oh, yeah, you humored me....I certainly got a laugh out of your response, thanks.

eatsleephate · 06-15-2009, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by vikesfankevin

Yup thats exactly what I said. Why don't ya quote that for me.

I'm trying to legitimately figure out why you don't think you're going to get mopped by any and everyone in that place, and you're failing at sarcasm.

TheStender · 06-15-2009, 09:27 AM

I've watched a few fights on dat der UFC, and will be going to UFC class to train Jiu Jitsu tonight. I think I'll be a step ahead of them.

vikesfankevin · 06-15-2009, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by eatsleephate

I'm trying to legitimately figure out why you don't think you're going to get mopped by any and everyone in that place, and you're failing at sarcasm.

Because I'm ignorant and stupid. Is that what you want to hear? Time for work, I'm out.

eatsleephate · 06-15-2009, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by vikesfankevin

Because I'm ignorant and stupid. Is that what you want to hear?

That'll do.

Hishiad · 06-15-2009, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by vikesfankevin

Because I'm ignorant and stupid. Is that what you want to hear? Time for work, I'm out.

Wow seriously?

You're the one who started the **** throwing with your outlandish claims of being able to hang with pros. ESH only wanted to know why you thought you'd be ahead of the game compared to other wrestlers. Rather than simply answer you started being a bitch basically and made comments like I quoted above.

Seriously why are you going to be ahead of the game?

HulkHagen · 06-15-2009, 10:45 AM

Velasquez has six MMA fights and you're ragging on him for not being able to finish Kongo.... c'mon we're being a little unrealistic here. The guy is really green and what he did was impressive for his lack of experience.

Rifter · 06-15-2009, 10:47 AM

OK............

I don't blame Kongo. I think it's Wolfslair his training team. Rampage STILL hasn't learned to check a leg kick and Bisbing hasn't improved since his days of TUF. They keep doing the same thing every fight WTF is their camp teaching them?

Ruzark · 06-15-2009, 10:52 AM

Cheick is a lost cause. It was clear what his flaw was and it doesn't seem like he's made any improvement. Kongo never was a contender. I don't know why people were saying he was. Dana is going to keep him around though because he is going to make for an exciting fight with another striker. If Kongo is happy being a sideshow for the rest of his career, then that's what he'll be used for.

**BPP** · 06-15-2009, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by socram

worst ground game ever IMO

this

**BPP** · 06-15-2009, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by dun chavez

some gay bjj move on me.

why you even in this section then?

and if there is NO defense for power, then how did Mir tap Lesnar?

HardGainer82 · 06-15-2009, 11:55 AM

After the Al-Turk fight, people were saying how his TD defense had improved, even I thought it had. But damn if he didn't get schooled.

A big part of the problem is that Kongo had developed a decent takedown himself, but he tries it at all the wrong times, because he has no clue how to scramble or hold position once he gets there, and he's basically just waiting to get reversed.

Oh, and once he started getting worked, he was definitely trying to knee Cain in the balls against the fence. AGAIN.

cgc · 06-15-2009, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BPP

why you even in this section then?

and if there is NO defense for power, then how did Mir tap Lesnar?

Or even going old school....Royce tapping Kimo

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Originally Posted by HardGainer82

Oh, and once he started getting worked, he was definitely trying to knee Cain in the balls against the fence. AGAIN.

So it wasn't just me who noticed that?

HardGainer82 · 06-15-2009, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by cgc

So it wasn't just me who noticed that?

I don't know how ANYONE missed it.

As soon as he's taken out of his game, Kongo looks lost and starts to go all Mike Kyle. They should match him up with Kyle in fact...or Yvel (again). Those motherf*ckers will show him what real cheap shots look like.

ApG · 06-15-2009, 04:13 PM

Yes Kongo pretty much sucks on the ground and yes it would have been cool if Cain finished Kongo from the ground from either strikes or an RNC but I think his finishing ability will get better in time. He's only 6 pro fights in and is getting better every time. I just wished he had more power in his hands.

cgc · 06-15-2009, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by HardGainer82

I don't know how ANYONE missed it.

As soon as he's taken out of his game, Kongo looks lost and starts to go all Mike Kyle. They should match him up with Kyle in fact...or Yvel (again). Those motherf*ckers will show him what real cheap shots look like.

I just haven't seen anyone else mention it....then again, I haven't been hitting all the threads about it either. As soon as I saw Kongo start trying to throw knees, I was like "WATCH YOUR BALLS!!!"

CLEAN_SET_OF_10 · 06-15-2009, 07:48 PM

Cain dominated when wrestling came into play and ate some HARD shots to get into grappling range. He was tossing around Cheick like a ragdoll.

wannabepl47 · 06-15-2009, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by dun chavez

Let me humor you. I have a friend who is a purple belt in bjj, but i am 75 lbs heavier than him. he has challenged me to "roll" or grapple 100 times, and every time is the same thing. He goes to put some gay bjj move on me, and i completely overpower him, and choke him out. There is no defence for absolutley overwhelming power.

Jesus dude no wonder. 75 lbs and look at how strong you are. Not to mention he is only a purple. While very good a purple is not elite and a brown or black 140lbr would tap you.

HulkHagen · 06-15-2009, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by HardGainer82

I don't know how ANYONE missed it.

As soon as he's taken out of his game, Kongo looks lost and starts to go all Mike Kyle. They should match him up with Kyle in fact...or Yvel (again). Those motherf*ckers will show him what real cheap shots look like.

If Kongo tried to nut shot Yvel, Gilbert would probably tear his eyeballs out! Dude seems like a nice guy outside the ring but he's nuts when he fights.

ApG · 06-15-2009, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by dun chavez

Let me humor you. I have a friend who is a purple belt in bjj, but i am 75 lbs heavier than him. he has challenged me to "roll" or grapple 100 times, and every time is the same thing. He goes to put some gay bjj move on me, and i completely overpower him, and choke him out. There is no defence for absolutley overwhelming power.

What gay bjj move did he do and what type of choke did you choke him out with?

Fadil · 06-16-2009, 01:20 AM

Konko was not able to use his secret weapon that is knees to the groin

Big Slim DaDDy · 06-16-2009, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Fadil

Konko was not able to use his secret weapon that is knees to the groin

lol I saw him trying it against Cain also. The fuking dirty prick.

Fadil · 06-16-2009, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Slim DaDDy

lol I saw him trying it against Cain also. The fuking dirty prick.

yeah and i was lmao when Cain took him to the ground again and owned him.

Ruzark · 06-16-2009, 01:45 AM

Have you guys noticed that most of the Kongo fans are nowhere to be seen.

belmont316 · 06-16-2009, 01:48 AM

cain needs to improve his striking he almost got knocked out right off the bat, but he dominated the wrestling factor. cheicks take down defense was horrid.

Big Slim DaDDy · 06-16-2009, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Ruzark

Have you guys noticed that most of the Kongo fans are nowhere to be seen.

Well what can they say? Their hero sucks when he's not standing up.