Fasting to Purge: Is it good?

[ultimateme]

Thanks Detour for the idea!

With everthing we eat and drink, is it worth it to let your body purge from one to 2 days? Going on a fast may be spiritual/religious for some, but to truly cleanse your body's insides should you forfeit your 5-6 meals aday for at least 2 days so your liver and kidneys can process out everything they know should not be inside of you?

Every 3 or 4 months I fast for 2 days or until my head hurts from hunger. That's usually nearing the end of day 2. How much harm can it be to let you system do what's natural for your health and well-being?

[detour]

Originally Posted by ultimateme

Thanks Detour for the idea!

With everthing we eat and drink, is it worth it to let your body purge from one to 2 days? Going on a fast may be spiritual/religious for some, but to truly cleanse your body's insides should you forfeit your 5-6 meals aday for at least 2 days so your liver and kidneys can process out everything they know should not be inside of you?

Every 3 or 4 months I fast for 2 days or until my head hurts from hunger. That's usually nearing the end of day 2. How much harm can it be to let you system do what's natural for your health and well-being?

Fasting is a good idea from time to time, it gives the digestive system a break. I grew up in an Islamic household and so had to fast during Ramadan. Other than the obvious of weight loss, you feel a nicer sense of self, if you get my drift? You also realise how much you don't really not to eat.

Also an overloaded system does mean that you don't absorb all the nutrients from your diet so letting it relax and then eating again improves the absorption rate of nutrients.

Just as it is advised to have days off from training to allow it to take effect (repair), taking one or two days off from eating is also a good idea. You will not lose size or strength as some people may fear. But each to their own, if people are happy being set in their ways thats up to them, eventually things catch up with us all...

[helpmehere]

eat unless you cant due to holy obligations.

[a_miller_76]

Originally Posted by detour

Fasting is a good idea from time to time, it gives the digestive system a break. I grew up in an Islamic household and so had to fast during Ramadan. Other than the obvious of weight loss, you feel a nicer sense of self, if you get my drift? You also realise how much you don't really not to eat.

Also an overloaded system does mean that you don't absorb all the nutrients from your diet so letting it relax and then eating again improves the absorption rate of nutrients.

Just as it is advised to have days off from training to allow it to take effect (repair), taking one or two days off from eating is also a good idea. You will not lose size or strength as some people may fear. But each to their own, if people are happy being set in their ways thats up to them, eventually things catch up with us all...

You should probably science this post up...A LOT.

[daYDreAmErX]

I like where this thread is going

[Holyspokes]

I'd probably burn through about 2lbs of muscle If I did not eat for 2 days. Sounds like fun.


Seriously though, You think our bodies are that incapable of handling food that we need to fast?

[mlalahoi]

I'm not sure if this counts as fasting, but I occasionally go all liquid for a couple of days to "reset" my eating habits after vacations or periods of extreme gluttony. If I've been eating tons of junk for a few days or a week and stretched out my stomach I'll often just have a whey and water shake several times a day (I aim for about 40g whey every 3-4 hours with LOTS of water all day) for about three days. This lets my stomach shrink up, the utter lack of carbs lets me drop off some water bloat right away and it gets me psycologically back on track so I don't feel hungry going from 3000 cals a day to 1800.

I've never experienced any adverse effects from doing this, I think as long as you are not pregnant or diabetic there is nothing wrong with fasting for a couple of days every now and then.

[metallideth]

fasting is a stupid idea. depriving your body of what it needs regardless of how long it's done is never a good idea.

[detour]

Originally Posted by Holyspokes

I'd probably burn through about 2lbs of muscle If I did not eat for 2 days. Sounds like fun.


Seriously though, You think our bodies are that incapable of handling food that we need to fast?

You probably wouldn't!

Some people obviously do have bodies that need a break from food, with years worth of gunk stunk in their digestive tracts..It's not for everyone but some people feel the benefit from it. 1 day is enough for most and just drink water, obviously on a day where you wont be doing much at all.

[exy]

I read an article on the supersite, it recommended fasting as a cleansing period for the body for 1-2 days, to get rid of all the toxins in the body.

I have done it during wrestling season, I could go days without eating anything and live off my muscle and fat. Not a good idea.


I will say one thing though, if you fast for any given time, do not binge AT ANY COST! In Macedonia (where I was born), there have been a lot of cases in Muslim families binging for Ramadhan after a 1 week fast or so, and they would get so bloated and it would be so hard for their stomach to process all the fat and food all the sudden. During the war back in the day, a whole brigade died after they were deprived of food for a week on the battlefront, and when they returned home, binged out, and very few survived.

True story. Js, don't binge after a fast at any cost. Take things slowly.

[schismatik]

Originally Posted by exy

I read an article on the supersite, it recommended fasting as a cleansing period for the body for 1-2 days, to get rid of all the toxins in the body.

I have done it during wrestling season, I could go days without eating anything and live off my muscle and fat. Not a good idea.


I will say one thing though, if you fast for any given time, do not binge AT ANY COST! In Macedonia (where I was born), there have been a lot of cases in Muslim families binging for Ramadhan after a 1 week fast or so, and they would get so bloated and it would be so hard for their stomach to process all the fat and food all the sudden. During the war back in the day, a whole brigade died after they were deprived of food for a week on the battlefront, and when they returned home, binged out, and very few survived.

True story. Js, don't binge after a fast at any cost. Take things slowly.

lol us intermittent fasters and warrior diet followers are real in trouble then!

[ultimateme]

Originally Posted by Holyspokes

I'd probably burn through about 2lbs of muscle If I did not eat for 2 days. Sounds like fun.


Seriously though, You think our bodies are that incapable of handling food that we need to fast?

It's not the food itself. It's the added growth harmones that's harmful. Haven't you ever seen a 12yr. old girl look like a 25yr. old woman? When you fast your body will go catabolic and eat and pass everything unhealthy.

[ultimateme]

Originally Posted by metallideth

fasting is a stupid idea. depriving your body of what it needs regardless of how long it's done is never a good idea.

Are you saying everything you eat is free of all chemicals and unnecessary additives?

[exy]

Originally Posted by schismatik

lol us intermittent fasters and warrior diet followers are real in trouble then!

All I am implying is don't binge after a fast. It may lead to problems. You are probably more experienced in this field.

[Holyspokes]

Originally Posted by ultimateme

It's not the food itself. It's the added growth harmones that's harmful. Haven't you ever seen a 12yr. old girl look like a 25yr. old woman? When you fast your body will go catabolic and eat and pass everything unhealthy.

There's growth hormones in everything what? I don't eat anything with growth hormones.. it's pretty easy to avoid.

Originally Posted by detour

You probably wouldn't!

Well.. If I don't eat at least 3,400 on a day when I don't do jack.. I lose weight, and I aint got much fat to lose, nor do I want to lose weight.

[Theenforcer1]

im sorry, our bodies were meant to run off food...I dont see in any way how it is healthy to not fuel my body properly.

[detour]

Originally Posted by Theenforcer1

im sorry, our bodies were meant to run off food...I dont see in any way how it is healthy to not fuel my body properly.

If that was the case then 1 day without food would see us dead! Our bodies are designed to withstand periods of no food, survival of the fittest. Even if you do lose a little muscle from fasting for 1 day so what, you can get it back. When people diet for competing they lose some muscle alongside fat, lots of people want to have that ripped look and go through real extremes to achieve that, some muscle is sacrificed too..I suppose thats healthy then?

[detour]

Originally Posted by Holyspokes

There's growth hormones in everything what? I don't eat anything with growth hormones.. it's pretty easy to avoid.



Well.. If I don't eat at least 3,400 on a day when I don't do jack.. I lose weight, and I aint got much fat to lose, nor do I want to lose weight.

Your goals are obviously not geared towards internal health, but one day you might want to try it out. What you training for, competitions??

[Frannycakes]

I've had days were I was deprived of sleep and food, and was running off of water and Grizzly wintergreen. Never gained a better sense of well-being, or felt "healthier" or "cleansed". Amidoinitrite?

[ultimateme]

Is it true that acne is a sign of toxins the body is trying to rid itself of? All I'm saying is help the inside be as healthy as the outside. Your intestines and colon will thank you later!
No Irritatable Bowel Syndrom (IBS) or other "diseases" which we all can do without.

[Holyspokes]

Originally Posted by detour

Your goals are obviously not geared towards internal health, but one day you might want to try it out. What you training for, competitions??

How can you make that kind of an assessment about my goals and diet?

I'm a cyclist.

[smoknjoe]

Originally Posted by ultimateme

It's not the food itself. It's the added growth harmones that's harmful. Haven't you ever seen a 12yr. old girl look like a 25yr. old woman? When you fast your body will go catabolic and eat and pass everything unhealthy.

The whole growth hormone and children going through puberty earlier is a complete BS argument to me. If you compare the amount of hormones in a piece of meat compared to some naturally occuring hormones in plants, you will see that it is negligible. Also, have you considered the fact that children are fatter these days that in the past. Are you aware that fat is on its way to being considered an endocrine organ, capable of producing a large array of hormones?

Originally Posted by Theenforcer1

im sorry, our bodies were meant to run off food...I dont see in any way how it is healthy to not fuel my body properly.

^this

The whole, it cleans out your intestines argument and comparing them to pipes is stupid IMO. If your intestines were truly clogged and need cleaning, you wouldn't be ****ting all the time. Your body is fully capable of breaking down and utilizing what it needs from food and getting rid of what it does not need. Unused food does not just sit plastered to the side of your GIT.

[machx]

you guys are in the wrong place to preach fasting lol

[inneka63]

Now I come from a family were I have members that are into natural health first of above all. People have been fasting forever. Also I have cousins who lift weights who are swoll (They are shredded also) that fasted and still are swoll. Also the human body is not design for processed food. Keep eating science project food and see what will happen to your health. That is why this crap is still in people body.I knew someone who went and got colonics and he told me that the people who worked their said some people would lose 30-40pounds when they was finish. That does not surprise me because if you are eating crap that is not food then it is not breakdown. Also most American are clogged anyway that is the root to all this colon cancer. Also most Americans have enough fat where the body can live on the fat for the next 2 months LOL. The mucsle is not used first for energy the fat is then the muscle. A lot of people have been misinformed by the medical community because fasting can help with healing the body. Also remember the body is designed to heal itself. Do the research people. The problem is the body spend so much time trying to digest crap it was not meant to the body cannot spend time in the area of immunity. My doctor tried to argue with me but in the end he agreed. He did not take nutrition in school anyway they just treat symptoms. I just go and get my physicals and that is it. What you eat if it is not "natural" food some of that stuff will stay in your body. I fasted for 2 weeks straight not food just water. I was not working out.I am not new to this I experienced the purging I went through the phase of headaches but it was all detoxing. My skin broke out badly. I do not have acne so I knew that was toxins. When it was over I noticed my skin was different my sinuses was cleared up. Also I did not gain the weight back. The key is on how you end the fast. When you are fasting like that you are catbolic but your body is elimnating. I mean I know someone who is bodybuilding would not do the fast I did but you need to do something from time to time. Eating garlic and drinking green tea is very detoxing. try it. Once you start eating you have to eat clean because the body goes back into the metablic mode (building) the probelm people come off these fast and eat crap empty calories so they start gaining the weight back. That is the problem. Also you have to know how long to fast and when. Now my fast was long. I know people who did it for 40 days. They did not gain the weight back also the are fit and swoll and shredded. ONce again those are major fast. you do not do those all the time. You can do something small and it helps. Juicing vegetables and fruits is good it helps. Now you can drink certain teas and juices to fast also. I had enough fat on me where I did not have to worry about my body eating on my muscle mass. Your body will let you know.
Check this do not let all this swoll shredded people decieve you they can be sick like hell on the inside I have seen people like that. They think because they are swoll they can eat crap and get away with it. Yeah not true I know people like that who started developing major health issues. Being swoll and shredded is not a protection against toxin and crap in processed foods. I know people that use to brag about it not anymore. They then got sick and people are looking at them like you are all swoll and cut and you are sick like that. The sad thing about americans is that we justify the crap we eat. Some of this stuff is a science project. My uncle is a chemist and he said some of that food is nothing but chemicals and crap. He also told me some of the supplements are garbage. I let him look at something I was taking he said it was like drinking antifreeze and eating rat poison no joke. He use to work for a major food company so he knows. (I have a cousin who is a chemical engineer that works for a major food company she does not even eat the food. She said to many chemicals.) It explained the headaches I was getting. I will not name the brand. Yeah also these companies know that some of this stuff is crap. All the marketing and brainwashing has hoodwinked Americans. You cannot stop everything but what you can you better. Do not get all cocky cause you are swoll and shredded yeah that is good but what is going on in your gut take inventory. The bottom line is that the body can deal with some toxins and crap but Americans are overloaded do the research people. We are dealing with way more then are grandparents did. Check this the dude the wrote the books "Abs diet" "eat this not that" i saw him on the 700 club he called most of that crap a science project. youtube it. HMMMMMMMM wonder why. A 4 year cheeseburger that has not mold is not a sign of pure food (go to my page and look at the video). Leave out ground beef and watch what happens it starts smelling bad and turning colors. Check it out. peace people.

[imccarthy]

Anyone that claims that fasting is necessary for "detoxing" is purely ignorant of the function of the liver and kidneys.

[inneka63]

Yeah but the kidney and liver can be clogged and that is happening do the research. There are many ways to detox or give your body a rest. nowdays people kidney and livers are jacked up. do the research. They are overloaded. Thisis a different era of diet and lifestyle. NO I am not ignorant of kidney and liver function but nowadays the high fatting foods and chemicals are slowing down the liver function do the research.

Originally Posted by imccarthy

Anyone that claims that fasting is necessary for "detoxing" is purely ignorant of the function of the liver and kidneys.

[ultimateme]

Originally Posted by imccarthy

Anyone that claims that fasting is necessary for "detoxing" is purely ignorant of the function of the liver and kidneys.

What has changed in the last 60 years, in the growing of foods then to now? I'll be 42 in July and I know from my time corn tasted like corn and yams tasted like yams. Now I'm afraid to eat them because I know they will taste "different".

What causes the livers and kidneys around the world to fail and have you put on a donor's list? Genetics, heredity or something not natural? Yes your body is strong, but man made chemicals and preservatives are stronger.

[divinechange]

When you write you remind me of myself and I get kicked in the gut for it. Its nice to know those things about fasting. Fasting is apart of my faith and the body was created to do amazing things wow God is an awesome wonder.