Why women are afraid to be viewed as sluts:

[lightningwatche]

This is physical, not cultural, and will not change until the average guy looks as good as the average woman.

A woman see a really hot guy. She wants to sleep with him on the spot, but she does not want all the average guys to know about it. If they see her do it, they will get upset because she does not do that to them. In fact, she has told the average guys many time that the reason she does not sleep with them is she is Old Fashioned. So of course the guys will be upset when they see this does not apply to HIM.

And why does she care what they think? Well, she needs to use them of course. Can't do that if they are butt hurt about seeing her sleep with the hot guy.

Many average guys wish the whole "slut" think would disappear. They think if it did, they would get laid more. Well, the fact is they would not. They'd just get to see the women sleeping with the hot men in public, while turning them down more openly.

Fact is, there is a small group of men who have perfect hair, perfect muscles, not too much body hair, tall, etc. Many men have some flaw, and therefore don't look as good as the average woman who has the same amount of fat. Therefore guys at the top can cheat on as many women as they want, and the women will forgive them, whereas average guy compete for average women, and often don't get laid at all. Until we find ways to make our penis better or regrow our hair, women will always try to keep their sex lives secret so the average guys they use will not get upset.

And that is where the word slut comes from. It is a self loathing. Some guys can't get laid, so they pump themselves up by saying promiscous sex is slutty. The women say it too. They say it so that if a guy asks for sex, and he is ugly, she can just say she is not a slut. But she can't use that if he sees her sleeping with another guy.

[Mr.Creatine]

two words:

truth hurts.

[Fanatik]

One word:
cliffs

[Hugh Jazz]

women slut = male virgin

[Art.of.War]

What makes you think the average women looks better to men than the average man looks to women?

Women don't want to be viewed a sluts (even if they are sluts) because of the nature of sex. Men fukk women! We penetrate them and bust in them. Because they are the ones being penetrated it can be viewed as they're being degraded. No girl wants everyone to know that she has been penetrated 100s of times and has basically been used as a cum dumpster. On the otherhand, men have no problem with being viewed as a slut because we don't get penetrated by women (unless you're into some really kinky ****). Having everyone know that he has had his dick in a lot of pussies feels empowering to him. He's spreading his seed as nature intended.

[bigm3657]

Originally Posted by Indestructible.

What makes you think the average women looks better to men than the average man looks to women?

Women don't want to be viewed a sluts (even if they are sluts) because of the nature of sex. Men fukk women! We penetrate them and bust in them. Because they are the ones being penetrated it can be viewed as they're being degraded. No girl wants everyone to know that she has been penetrated 100s of times and has basically been used as a cum dumpster. On the otherhand, men have no problem with being viewed as a slut because we don't get penetrated by women (unless you're into some really kinky ****). Having everyone know that he has had his dick in a lot of pussies feels empowering to him. He's spreading his seed as nature intended.

this

[LeftNut]

IMO its because they know that in a relationship the vagina equals leverage. Every woman (yes I know this is the RH and all teh women here are in the 0.01% of the population who dont do this...so naturally this doesn't apply to them) uses sex as a bargaining tool, its their trump card. Ask yourself this...if a woman has been putting it about abundantly then why on earth would you as man put any more value on it than she herself puts on it? If Men knew that there GF/Wife used to be out there gobbling cock like a fat kid in a sweet shop then would he jump through hoops and do tricks (read: spend money, romance and all that other ****) to get his dick sucked when all it took for X number of men before him was simply a 'hello' and 30mins later she's got this random dudes balls in her mouth? Of course not.

Look at all the sexless marriages.... in the last 30yrs+ liberated Women have been enjoying their sexual freedom to its absolute limit but yet once they get married..... suddenly sex isn't important any more when it wasn't that long ago that they were banging away like nymphos and yet every married mans number 1 complaint still to this day, when you speak to them is the sex goes down and the BJs...well he's lucky if he even gets them on his Birthday as a special treat any more. Then retards like Oprah and Tyra Banks (as well as Society) propagate a man needs to romance his Wife for her to open her legs.....unlike the X number of men in her sexual history..... but a man with any semblance of self respect will laugh at that **** knowing his Woman's sexual history and instead will go screw the new perky, younger temp in his Office for the same zero effort as the previous X number of men had ****ed his now Wife.

So by lying/deceiving/manipulating these Women are safe to use their vagina as currency to barter within the relationship. Best of both worlds. Get treated like a Princess by the BF/Husband whilst not that long ago they were everybody else's whore.

They have to keep up the pretence of being "good" so that it justifies the end game. Men dont give a **** about being a slut because they dont earn their keep with their cock like Women (other than RHs 0.01% of course) try to do with their vaginas.

Taking away the slut label wont mean **** until women stop putting their own "pussies on a pedestal"

[LovesMuscles]

Originally Posted by LeftNut

Look at all the sexless marriages.... in the last 30yrs+ liberated Women have been enjoying their sexual freedom to its absolute limit but yet once they get married..... suddenly sex isn't important any more when it wasn't that long ago that they were banging away like nymphos and yet every married mans number 1 complaint still to this day, when you speak to them is the sex goes down and the BJs...well he's lucky if he even gets them on his Birthday as a special treat any more.

I don't know why you often mention this because it's not as simple as you think it is.

[LeftNut]

Originally Posted by LovesMuscles

I don't know why you often mention this because it's not as simple as you think it is.

Go on then explain the complexities of sexless marriages/relationships that don't revolve around kids.

Also.... how is it that sex isn't of much importance any more when in a relationship/marriage when it was important enough to them for them to objectify themselves to X number of Men.

[LovesMuscles]

Originally Posted by LeftNut

Go on then explain the complexities of sexless marriages/relationships that don't revolve around kids.

I'm not going to write an essay but there are a multitude of reasons. Lack of effort, the novelty wears off. Having sex with the same person for years and years (which is a bit nuts to me) is different than having sex with different kinds of people.


There are so many reasons and I think you like to tip-toe around them and just say BAM! pussy on the pedestal (which could be a reason but it's sure as hell not the main one).

Originally Posted by LeftNut

Also.... how is it that sex isn't of much importance any more when in a relationship/marriage when it was important enough to them for them to objectify themselves to X number of Men.

I think most would say that sex with someone they don't care about is surely different than sex with someone they're in a relationship with.


And to add, I believe that once you're married, you're trapped (at least, that's how I see it. Much harder to leave). So what's the point of trying? Neither party feels like they should put in as much effort because it's done. They're married. What's funny is that the same can apply for the husband. "My husband used to be so romantic and affectionate. What happened?" You got married, that's what happened.

[LeftNut]

Originally Posted by LovesMuscles

I'm not going to write an essay but there are a multitude of reasons. Lack of effort, the novelty wears off. Having sex with the same person for years and years (which is a bit nuts to me) is different than having sex with different kinds of people.


There are so many reasons and I think you like to tip-toe around them and just say BAM! pussy on the pedestal (which could be a reason but it's sure as hell not the main one).

Those aren't reasons, they are excuses. The way people behave with regards to sex means its a necessity for them, they need to have that desire relieved otherwise why else would people be having sex outside of something meaningful and with people whose names they'll forget the next day? So if sex is that important and its essentially an itch to scratch then how can you deprive yourself of that relief for X number of days only to have it relieved once a man has jumped through enough hoops and done enough tricks? If your husband is out of shape then what does spending money have to do with your attraction to him for you to then have sex with him?

Until you substantiate your "reasons" then Im going to stay consistent with the one that we both agree on.

I think most would say that sex with someone they don't care about is surely different than sex with someone they're in a relationship with.

Yeah they're probably the same people who wil put labels like 'making love' on it to rationalise what is at its foundation the sharing of the intimacy and honour of your body with someone else.

Sex is sex...its only as important as the value you deem to put on it with your actions, not the label.

And anyway your response kind of negates your original argument on sexless marriages because if you can screw someone who you have no feelings for then you sure as hell can suck it up and spend 10 mins of your day (0.6% of your time) blowing the man you "love".

Because irrespective of getting tired with screwing the same person.... no man will ever grow tired from having his penor sucked even if its by the same person.

[Jaw-Knee]

Originally Posted by LeftNut

Those aren't reasons, they are excuses.

This.

He's right, you know.

[SlappyWhite]

Originally Posted by lightningwatche

This is physical, not cultural, and will not change until the average guy looks as good as the average woman.

A woman see a really hot guy. She wants to sleep with him on the spot, but she does not want all the average guys to know about it. If they see her do it, they will get upset because she does not do that to them. In fact, she has told the average guys many time that the reason she does not sleep with them is she is Old Fashioned. So of course the guys will be upset when they see this does not apply to HIM.

And why does she care what they think? Well, she needs to use them of course. Can't do that if they are butt hurt about seeing her sleep with the hot guy.

Many average guys wish the whole "slut" think would disappear. They think if it did, they would get laid more. Well, the fact is they would not. They'd just get to see the women sleeping with the hot men in public, while turning them down more openly.

Fact is, there is a small group of men who have perfect hair, perfect muscles, not too much body hair, tall, etc. Many men have some flaw, and therefore don't look as good as the average woman who has the same amount of fat. Therefore guys at the top can cheat on as many women as they want, and the women will forgive them, whereas average guy compete for average women, and often don't get laid at all. Until we find ways to make our penis better or regrow our hair, women will always try to keep their sex lives secret so the average guys they use will not get upset.

And that is where the word slut comes from. It is a self loathing. Some guys can't get laid, so they pump themselves up by saying promiscous sex is slutty. The women say it too. They say it so that if a guy asks for sex, and he is ugly, she can just say she is not a slut. But she can't use that if he sees her sleeping with another guy.

The only thing causing this whole slut problem is morons who think that chicks who have sex with more than two men in 6 years are sluts.

[lightningwatche]

Originally Posted by Fanatik

One word:
cliffs

Women don't want their sex life public because they don't want average guys betting upset that women sleep with hot guys in 5 minutes of meeting but expect average guys to buy them gifts for months and work for it. They try to keep average guys in the dark, and use "I'm not a slut" as their reason for not sleeping with them, instead of "you don't look good enough."

[lightningwatche]

Originally Posted by Mr.Creatine

two words:

truth hurts.

Only at first. It saves you 100x the pain compared to falling for a woman who will never feel the same about you, and calculatingly manipulates your emotions for her financial or social benefit.

[lightningwatche]

Originally Posted by Indestructible.

What makes you think the average women looks better to men than the average man looks to women? .

Like I said, men have much more genetic "flaws" than women do, and must build muscle to look our best, whereas women start out at their best and just need to not get fat.

Originally Posted by Indestructible.

Women don't want to be viewed a sluts (even if they are sluts) because ...... they are the ones being penetrated it can be viewed as they're being degraded.

I can assure you women LOVE being penetrated by hot guys. They just are not very turned on by sleeping with average guys. They get some fun, but not nearly as much as the average guy, which is why they are able to charge money.

[lightningwatche]

Originally Posted by Indestructible.

Having everyone know that he has had his dick in a lot of pussies feels empowering to him. He's spreading his seed as nature intended.

It is evolutionarily true that women do not want men knowing how many men they slept with, but it is because in order for a woman to get a man's support, she has to make him think the kid is his. He will only protect HIS seed. If he knows she sleeps with other men readily, but not him readily, he will not think it is his. This only supports my theory, not yours. Women want to sleep around, but not with average men. They want to sleep around with the hot men, but don't want the average men knowing about it. They also don't want the hot men knowing either, since they'd love a hot man's seed AND his support, though that is a VERY lofty goal. Unearned support from an average guy is a more realistic goal.

[lightningwatche]

Originally Posted by LeftNut

IMO its because they know that in a relationship the vagina equals leverage. Every woman (yes I know this is the RH and all teh women here are in the 0.01% of the population who dont do this...so naturally this doesn't apply to them) uses sex as a bargaining tool, its their trump card. Ask yourself this...if a woman has been putting it about abundantly then why on earth would you as man put any more value on it than she herself puts on it? If Men knew that there GF/Wife used to be out there gobbling cock like a fat kid in a sweet shop then would he jump through hoops and do tricks (read: spend money, romance and all that other ****) to get his dick sucked when all it took for X number of men before him was simply a 'hello' and 30mins later she's got this random dudes balls in her mouth? Of course not.

Look at all the sexless marriages.... in the last 30yrs+ liberated Women have been enjoying their sexual freedom to its absolute limit but yet once they get married..... suddenly sex isn't important any more when it wasn't that long ago that they were banging away like nymphos and yet every married mans number 1 complaint still to this day, when you speak to them is the sex goes down and the BJs...well he's lucky if he even gets them on his Birthday as a special treat any more. Then retards like Oprah and Tyra Banks (as well as Society) propagate a man needs to romance his Wife for her to open her legs.....unlike the X number of men in her sexual history..... but a man with any semblance of self respect will laugh at that **** knowing his Woman's sexual history and instead will go screw the new perky, younger temp in his Office for the same zero effort as the previous X number of men had ****ed his now Wife.

So by lying/deceiving/manipulating these Women are safe to use their vagina as currency to barter within the relationship. Best of both worlds. Get treated like a Princess by the BF/Husband whilst not that long ago they were everybody else's whore.

They have to keep up the pretence of being "good" so that it justifies the end game. Men dont give a **** about being a slut because they dont earn their keep with their cock like Women (other than RHs 0.01% of course) try to do with their vaginas.

Taking away the slut label wont mean **** until women stop putting their own "pussies on a pedestal"

This only supports my whole thread:
Women sleep with the hot guys, but they want money too. So they marry an average guy. They give him just enough sex to get him to marry her. Then once the two year statute of limitation occurs so his money is officially her's the sex stops. It even tapers a bit before then. The reason it stopped is not that women don't like sex. It is they don't like sex with average guys. I guarantee she is still sleeping with hot guys.

If you are a hot plumber, you can sleep with your female clients. If you are an average plumber, and you hit on a housewife, she will tell your boss and get you fired.

[mp19]

Originally Posted by lightningwatche

It is evolutionarily true that women do not want men knowing how many men they slept with, but it is because in order for a woman to get a man's support, she has to make him think the kid is his. He will only protect HIS seed. If he knows she sleeps with other men readily, but not him readily, he will not think it is his. This only supports my theory, not yours. Women want to sleep around, but not with average men. They want to sleep around with the hot men, but don't want the average men knowing about it. They also don't want the hot men knowing either, since they'd love a hot man's seed AND his support, though that is a VERY lofty goal. Unearned support from an average guy is a more realistic goal.

riight. i think its evolutionary/biological. women invest a lot of energy in reproduction and look for a single responsible male to aid in her raising of the child whereas men can just bust their loads all over the place and theyre not ****ed with the baby. thus, evolutionarily, guys dont give a **** and can **** all sorts of girls whereas girls dont.

i think...

[Armando777]

Originally Posted by lightningwatche

This is physical, not cultural, and will not change until the average guy looks as good as the average woman.

A woman see a really hot guy. She wants to sleep with him on the spot, but she does not want all the average guys to know about it. If they see her do it, they will get upset because she does not do that to them. In fact, she has told the average guys many time that the reason she does not sleep with them is she is Old Fashioned. So of course the guys will be upset when they see this does not apply to HIM.

And why does she care what they think? Well, she needs to use them of course. Can't do that if they are butt hurt about seeing her sleep with the hot guy.

Many average guys wish the whole "slut" think would disappear. They think if it did, they would get laid more. Well, the fact is they would not. They'd just get to see the women sleeping with the hot men in public, while turning them down more openly.

Fact is, there is a small group of men who have perfect hair, perfect muscles, not too much body hair, tall, etc. Many men have some flaw, and therefore don't look as good as the average woman who has the same amount of fat. Therefore guys at the top can cheat on as many women as they want, and the women will forgive them, whereas average guy compete for average women, and often don't get laid at all. Until we find ways to make our penis better or regrow our hair, women will always try to keep their sex lives secret so the average guys they use will not get upset.

And that is where the word slut comes from. It is a self loathing. Some guys can't get laid, so they pump themselves up by saying promiscous sex is slutty. The women say it too. They say it so that if a guy asks for sex, and he is ugly, she can just say she is not a slut. But she can't use that if he sees her sleeping with another guy.

most giirls have a sense of decency to them. She can sleep around, but once the S word is leaked she is irritated. No girl wants to be seen easy.
The guys you mentioned above, if you know one, will only tell you his victories and not his defeats.
Nothing is more scary than a woman going nuts and pouring hot things on you when your asleep.

[lightningwatche]

Originally Posted by Armando777

No girl wants to be seen easy..

Again, supporting my whole thread. She does not want average guys knowing the hot guys easily sleep with her. If they did, they would not pay. They'd try asking for sex directly, and she'd just have to say "yes" or "no". Women much prefer to say "later", so he pays and hopes and has given her all she wants by the time he finally gives up. They can be very cold and calculating about this, but disguise it by saying women are just emotionally wierd sometimes.

Originally Posted by Armando777

Nothing is more scary than a woman going nuts and pouring hot things on you when your asleep.

You know women who do this? How hot? Like a pot of boiling water? I'd jump out of bed and kick her head off if she did that to me.

[uglycasanova]

Something smells fishy if you ask me.

[FenrisWolf]

so much ****ing win in this thread, nice to see guys are starting to wake up to womens' bull****
reps for you lightningwatche

[Galvatorex]

Originally Posted by Hugh Jazz

women slut = male virgin

so when you bang sluts, your really banging a male virgin which makes you homo?

[LovesMuscles]

Is, "I'm not attracted to my husband anymore" a good enough reason?




And reasons, excuses...whatever. Excuses will always outweigh reasons when it comes to relationships IMO.


And I forgot to mention that there are a large number of men who marry solely for sex (33%, some poll I saw awhile back)...hmm...maybe those are the ones complaining.

[Miz-Zou]

Originally Posted by LovesMuscles

Is, "I'm not attracted to my husband anymore" a good enough reason?




And reasons, excuses...whatever. Excuses will always outweigh reasons when it comes to relationships IMO.


And I forgot to mention that there are a large number of men who marry solely for sex (33%, some poll I saw awhile back)...hmm...maybe those are the ones complaining.

Yet another quality post by lovesmuscles...








































Age: 19

[Woopster]

because like everyone else says, if a girl is a slut dudes expect her to just give it up and wont put any effort in(i.e buy her **** lulz). Whereas if she appears to be hard to bed they'll go to all kinds of pathetic lengths to get in her pants.


When you get to the stage where you dont give a damn about having a female in your life because you have so much other **** going for you, thats when you get any chick you want.

[ShadyBobcat]

Originally Posted by Mr.Creatine

two words:

truth hurts.

haha so true

[momo5]

stop making women a top priotory in your life and don't worry about marriage you will be better off.

[NYY]

Originally Posted by LovesMuscles

And I forgot to mention that there are a large number of men who marry solely for sex (33%, some poll I saw awhile back)...hmm...maybe those are the ones complaining.

What does that have to really do with anything?