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Old 05-20-2009, 05:34 PM   #1
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Would this be okay?

Hi there. I'll try to make this as simple as possible.

- Been lifting for 2 and a half years. Went from 156 to 215 in one year from eating my ass off and lifting big in the gym.
- Supps I've taken are creatine, caffience, protein, multi, fish oil, ephedrine and some BCAA's. I haven't tried any PH stuff or anything more serious than creatine.
- I'm interested in maybe running Mass FX and Hdrol soon. BUT when I was 14 I was hella behind on puberty and I went to an endocrinologist and was taking some form of test with no PCT after. And I have very slight gyno behind my left nipple.
- With that said what would you recommend me doing? I'm looking to take this to the next step. I'm interested in massfx and hdrol, or something similar along those lines.

I'm 6'1. Weight 195 I'm 20 years old. My diet, training, water intake, and rest is in check...

Any help will be greatly appreciated!!!!
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Old 05-20-2009, 05:36 PM   #2
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if you're worried about your natural hormone production, then get a blood test first.

how long were you taking "some form of test"? Was bloodwork taken throughout and in the months after?
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Old 05-20-2009, 05:41 PM   #3
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if you're worried about your natural hormone production, then get a blood test first.

how long were you taking "some form of test"? Was bloodwork taken throughout and in the months after?
3 months. Bloodwork was taken during and followed up 3 months after. Everything was fine then. I didn't start getting the slight gyno until I was 17. Started the test and only ran it whatever it was when i was 14 for 3 months. Could just be pubertal gyno, could be from the test. I'm not worried about my natural hormone prodution I'm looking to go to something more serious than the creatine supps I have been taking. Would it be okay for me to try a stack like mass fx and hdrol OR something similar to?
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Old 05-20-2009, 05:45 PM   #4
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the gyno you have is pubertal, test wouldn't cause gyno three years later.

If your only worry is the gyno, just make sure you have the required supports on hand. ie. nolva and letro (or another ai)
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Old 05-20-2009, 05:50 PM   #5
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Okay... I haven't read to much about mass fx or hdrol, just a few reviews and logs and was interested. Along w/ nolva. Any certain type of stack and supplementation you suggest to someone like me? Of course, I'll start reading and educate myself in the mean time.
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Old 05-20-2009, 05:52 PM   #6
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Okay... I haven't read to much about mass fx or hdrol, just a few reviews and logs and was interested. Along w/ nolva. Any certain type of stack and supplementation you suggest to someone like me? Of course, I'll start reading and educate myself in the mean time.
you gotta make your own decision on that one.

Do lots of research before you decide to take the plunge. My initial research on ph's led me away from them, and on to real steroids.
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Old 05-20-2009, 05:55 PM   #7
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you gotta make your own decision on that one.

Do lots of research before you decide to take the plunge. My initial research on ph's led me away from them, and on to real steroids.
Will keep researching, thanks for the help brother. Anyone else's input would once again ALSO be helpful.. thank you!
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Old 05-20-2009, 05:58 PM   #8
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Will keep researching, thanks for the help brother. Anyone else's input would once again ALSO be helpful.. thank you!
no worries at all bro. If you have any more questions feel free to pm me.
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Old 05-20-2009, 10:41 PM   #9
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If you have pubertal gyno, your PCT better be on point.
I wouldn't recommend hdrol/PHs to you tbh..
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What if the op did Mass FX / Hyperdrol X2, instead of the hdrol? Would this not be safer?
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dont bother will pills, they are too hard on your liver, just do injectable steroids, but do it smart, its MUCH safer.
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dont bother will pills, they are too hard on your liver, just do injectable steroids, but do it smart, its MUCH safer.
though I agree with you, and made the choice to use injectable compounds over orals myself, I don't think it's wise to make such a statement in this particular forum.

If people want to abide by the law, they shouldn't be encouraged otherwise.
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