Raw Egg Myth

wifi · 05-07-2009, 12:02 PM

I was told by my Kin Professor that your body has a harder time processing the proteins in raw eggs as opposed to cooked eggs. So for all you hardcore lifters choking yourselves with raw eggs; all your doing is increasing the risk of salmonella poisoning which could put your lifting carrier on hold.

This may be common knowledge but I didn't know till recently. Personally, I still think we should continue to do the raw egg challenge on occasion to see who has the stronger stomach.

papasmurf2217 · 05-07-2009, 12:06 PM

why would you make eating such a difficult task? i like to enjoy my food, not force something down cuz it's got teh proteinz

wifi · 05-07-2009, 12:24 PM

I don't do it personally but I know people who do, and I was just spreading the word that it is not only gross, but not good for you.

Ad0n1s · 05-07-2009, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by wifi

I was told by my Kin Professor that your body has a harder time processing the proteins in raw eggs as opposed to cooked eggs. So for all you hardcore lifters choking yourselves with raw eggs; all your doing is increasing the risk of salmonella poisoning which could put your lifting carrier on hold.

This may be common knowledge but I didn't know till recently. Personally, I still think we should continue to do the raw egg challenge on occasion to see who has the stronger stomach.

I have been told a nutrition prof at University of Rhode Island that cooking actually does change the chemical structure of the proteins and causes them to become less complete. I have also read many articles on this and most of them support this claim. So, I think this is definitely debated. It would be good if we had a biochemist on here to analyze this issue and give more details about this chemical process.

Ted Nugent · 05-07-2009, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Ad0n1s

I have been told a nutrition prof at University of Rhode Island that cooking actually does change the chemical structure of the proteins and causes them to become less complete. I have also read many articles on this and most of them support this claim. So, I think this is definitely debated. It would be good if we had a biochemist on here to analyze this issue and give more details about this chemical process.

i got to URI to brah! you go to the gym there (no stalker) lol

theshoupguy · 05-07-2009, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by papasmurf2217

why would you make eating such a difficult task? i like to enjoy my food, not force something down cuz it's got teh proteinz

Agreed - some things I can choke down just for nutrition's sake, but when it comes to eggs I'd much rather hard boil a bunch of them or scramble them up with some veggies and lean meats.

pkp413 · 05-07-2009, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by papasmurf2217

why would you make eating such a difficult task? i like to enjoy my food, not force something down cuz it's got teh proteinz

I enjoy raw eggs more than boiled, but omelets/scrambled eggs better than raw. It is not just a matter of protein consumption, it is also the vitamins/minerals/amino acids/enzymes etc. that play a key role in digestion/metabolization of foods. Raw carbs/fats/protein by itself is nutritionally quite inferior... By consuming raw eggs you lose out very few of the other nutrients that are lost due to heat when an egg is cooked. Yes, there is 1/30000 risk of acquiring digestive problems by consuming a raw egg but if we avoided doing everything with these risk ratios we won't go out, eat out at a fast-food joints, drive our cars, fly an airplane etc. etc. BV is a factor and there have been some studies to suggest that only a part of the total protein content of raw egg is actually bioavailable for digestion. But what about the minerals/vitamins/amino acids etc.? How much of that content is lost when its cooked? I prefer blended eggs too, but I have read that even that damages the nutrition profile of an eggs so I don't do it anymore...

in10city · 05-07-2009, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Ad0n1s

I have been told a nutrition prof at University of Rhode Island that cooking actually does change the chemical structure of the proteins and causes them to become less complete. I have also read many articles on this and most of them support this claim. So, I think this is definitely debated. It would be good if we had a biochemist on here to analyze this issue and give more details about this chemical process.

I think you are mixing up terminology between a complete vs. incomplete protein and denaturing a protein - which what cooking generally does.

And it does improve egg protein digestiblity.

http://jn.nutrition.org/cgi/content/full/128/10/1716

Ad0n1s · 05-07-2009, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by in10city

I think you are mixing up terminology between a complete vs. incomplete protein and denaturing a protein - which what cooking generally does.

And it does improve egg protein digestiblity.

http://jn.nutrition.org/cgi/content/full/128/10/1716

reps given. good credible article

titdoctor · 05-07-2009, 01:38 PM

I'm sure back when humans were hunters and gathers, we brought pans around with us everywhere, to cook eggs we found in nests. Like the post above me says, we consume the raw egg more for the nutrients/fats found in the yolks, than the protein content. Even know, eggs have a 90% bioavailability, and is greatly reduced after being cooked.

eMike · 05-07-2009, 02:40 PM

I honestly think the raw egg starts or whites or whatever I put in my whey shake in the morning makes it taste better. It makes it a little thicker and I can't particularly taste the egg.

Isittomorrow · 05-07-2009, 02:56 PM

3 raw eggs + 1 scoop of Chocolate Whey + half glass of water = Breakfest on the run or runs if you get salmonella posioning.

wifi · 05-08-2009, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by in10city

I think you are mixing up terminology between a complete vs. incomplete protein and denaturing a protein - which what cooking generally does.

And it does improve egg protein digestiblity.

http://jn.nutrition.org/cgi/content/full/128/10/1716

This is what I originally meant, you may loose some content but your body absorbs it better when cooked, thank you for proving my point .. reps.

shadout00 · 05-08-2009, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by wifi

I was told by my Kin Professor that your body has a harder time processing the proteins in raw eggs as opposed to cooked eggs. So for all you hardcore lifters choking yourselves with raw eggs; all your doing is increasing the risk of salmonella poisoning which could put your lifting carrier on hold.

This may be common knowledge but I didn't know till recently. Personally, I still think we should continue to do the raw egg challenge on occasion to see who has the stronger stomach.

Salmonella bacteria can be present in raw eggs. It is harmful when consumed but when eggs are cooked this bacteria is killed. That is why they say you shouldn't consume raw eggs, with the risk of some bacteria being present in the egg and the risk that you consuming it will give you the poisoning. This is pretty basic science, consumption of certain live microorganisms can cause damage to your body. That is a no brainer.

The real question about consuming raw eggs is the protein and nutrient digestibility and quality as opposed to cooked variations. I say eat them the way you want with regards to salmonella and any other contaminants in mind. Either way, cook or uncooked, I don't believe it really matters on a level that you would seriously have to make an ultimatum. Eat them the way you like.

MassFreak2063 · 05-08-2009, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by shadout00

Salmonella bacteria can be present in raw eggs. It is harmful when consumed but when eggs are cooked this bacteria is killed. That is why they say you shouldn't consume raw eggs, with the risk of some bacteria being present in the egg and the risk that you consuming it will give you the poisoning. This is pretty basic science, consumption of certain live microorganisms can cause damage to your body. That is a no brainer.

perhaps if you're weak and pathetic it can hurt you.....and we have our own chickens....no chance there, it's the processing and sitting around that can allow salmonella to develope

Opies · 05-08-2009, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by wifi

I was told by my Kin Professor that your body has a harder time processing the proteins in raw eggs as opposed to cooked eggs. So for all you hardcore lifters choking yourselves with raw eggs; all your doing is increasing the risk of salmonella poisoning which could put your lifting carrier on hold.

This may be common knowledge but I didn't know till recently. Personally, I still think we should continue to do the raw egg challenge on occasion to see who has the stronger stomach.

eggs are 99.9% sterile. You are more likely to get salmonella from a fast food joint or something. If you want to eat raw eggs go ahead who cares. you absorb less protein but it isn't bad for you (unless you are someone who gets the ****s from it)

Blindead · 05-08-2009, 08:52 PM

I don't see a myth in this thread...

Bramble · 05-09-2009, 04:49 AM

oh lawd not this **** again

Gr3g_Lycan · 05-09-2009, 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by titdoctor

I'm sure back when humans were hunters and gathers, we brought pans around with us everywhere, to cook eggs we found in nests. Like the post above me says, we consume the raw egg more for the nutrients/fats found in the yolks, than the protein content. Even know, eggs have a 90% bioavailability, and is greatly reduced after being cooked.

Anthropologists have suggested one of the reasons humans have made rapid progress in the past few thousand years, is in cooking food. Cooking improves digestibility, hence humans get far more nourishment.

GoogleFreak · 05-09-2009, 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by wifi

I was told by my Kin Professor that your body has a harder time processing the proteins in raw eggs as opposed to cooked eggs. So for all you hardcore lifters choking yourselves with raw eggs; all your doing is increasing the risk of salmonella poisoning which could put your lifting carrier on hold.

This may be common knowledge but I didn't know till recently. Personally, I still think we should continue to do the raw egg challenge on occasion to see who has the stronger stomach.

Your professor doesn't know **** then. When you cook an egg it destroys the enzymes. Without enzymes there wouldn't be life.

GoogleFreak · 05-09-2009, 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by shadout00

Salmonella bacteria can be present in raw eggs. It is harmful when consumed but when eggs are cooked this bacteria is killed. That is why they say you shouldn't consume raw eggs, with the risk of some bacteria being present in the egg and the risk that you consuming it will give you the poisoning. This is pretty basic science, consumption of certain live microorganisms can cause damage to your body. That is a no brainer.

The real question about consuming raw eggs is the protein and nutrient digestibility and quality as opposed to cooked variations. I say eat them the way you want with regards to salmonella and any other contaminants in mind. Either way, cook or uncooked, I don't believe it really matters on a level that you would seriously have to make an ultimatum. Eat them the way you like.

Maybe you should stop breathing too or wear a gas mask. Did you know indoor air has a lot of dust. The dust is actually mites that spread microscopic feces into the air. :P