Epistane Cycle

[adamp888]

hey guys,

I will be starting my first cycle using epistane but im not sure as to what i should stack with it and wat type of pct should be used since i am new to this. give me feedback on how this looks:

1 week before cycle: 1 scoop AI's cycle support a day

Cycle:
Epistane 20/30/30/40
2 scoops AI's cycle support a day
Powerfull by USP Labs
2-3 g taurine
creatine
whey protein

PCT:
Reversitol 3/2/2/1
AI's Post Cycle Support 0/0/4/4/4
Cyto Sport Cyto Gainer
I will also continue with creatine, taurine and protein

[cjheadrick]

I am also about to start a cycle of epistane, pulse cycle.
going to be using milk thistle etc for precaution and after I'm done a course of Gaspari Novedex xt. Do you mind if I contribute to the progress and results of this product?

[AnthonyBishop]

If it were me, I'd run the gainer during cycle.

[cjheadrick]

Progress Pictures To Follow Every Week

[adamp888]

nah i dont mind but do you think i should use novedex xt or reversitol

[cjheadrick]

Honestly mate, this pro-hormone game is all new to me. I'm acne prone and that seems to be my main concern. I am near enough clear now after loading up on Pantothenic acid 5mg daily and using the benzoyl peroxide aquagel 2.5% so hopefully this will keep the breakouts to a minimum when using epistane.

I'm using the pulse cycle recommended on the site, 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off
Apparently this way you won't need to use a PCT (but i will use novedex xt just in case) and shut-down won't occur. The results, as they state on the site, won't be as much but the long and short term sides will be minimal.

I'm not gonna lie, i'd love more size in less time but i'm not willing to risk the sides. Its the first pro-hormone I will be using and they are porwerful stuff.
After the let down on regular tribulus/zma and Norateen heavyweight 2, I thought I would just step it up a notch.
Been training hard for the past 3 years (although neglected squats untill 6-8 months ago) and feel I could do with a hand to move me into a new realm of strength and size.

My main aim is to increase my big 5:

SQUAT
DEADLIFT
BENCHPRESS (especially for lacking chest)
MILITARY PRESS
PULL-UPS

I won't be using a huge calorie excess as I want to retain the bodyfat level or if it lives up to its claims, reduce my bodyfat percentage.

Are you going to be putting up progress pictures also?... there seems to be a lack of them for this product, let me know if im wrong though.

[Newport23]

Started mine today as well. running Mega Zol with it.

[adamp888]

i wont be putting up pictures i just wanted to find out how i should run my cycle to get the most gains before i use it. however i might put up pictures once i start my cycle

[AnthonyBishop]

Originally Posted by cjheadrick

Honestly mate, this pro-hormone game is all new to me. I'm acne prone and that seems to be my main concern. I am near enough clear now after loading up on Pantothenic acid 5mg daily and using the benzoyl peroxide aquagel 2.5% so hopefully this will keep the breakouts to a minimum when using epistane.

I'm using the pulse cycle recommended on the site, 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off
Apparently this way you won't need to use a PCT (but i will use novedex xt just in case) and shut-down won't occur. The results, as they state on the site, won't be as much but the long and short term sides will be minimal.

I'm not gonna lie, i'd love more size in less time but i'm not willing to risk the sides. Its the first pro-hormone I will be using and they are porwerful stuff.
After the let down on regular tribulus/zma and Norateen heavyweight 2, I thought I would just step it up a notch.
Been training hard for the past 3 years (although neglected squats untill 6-8 months ago) and feel I could do with a hand to move me into a new realm of strength and size.

My main aim is to increase my big 5:

SQUAT
DEADLIFT
BENCHPRESS (especially for lacking chest)
MILITARY PRESS
PULL-UPS

I won't be using a huge calorie excess as I want to retain the bodyfat level or if it lives up to its claims, reduce my bodyfat percentage.

Are you going to be putting up progress pictures also?... there seems to be a lack of them for this product, let me know if im wrong though.

Nizoral shampoo seemed to help with my acne. I believe it reduces the size of the Sebaceous gland. 2% might be otc where you're at, if not you can try the 1%.

You're not running 2 weeks on (as in dosing every day for the 14 days right)? I believe it's supposed to be 3x/wk for the first two weeks then two weeks off.

[Newport23]

Had a great workout today with killer pumps. Maybe all in my head.

[cjheadrick]

Originally Posted by AnthonyBishop

Nizoral shampoo seemed to help with my acne. I believe it reduces the size of the Sebaceous gland. 2% might be otc where you're at, if not you can try the 1%.

You're not running 2 weeks on (as in dosing every day for the 14 days right)? I believe it's supposed to be 3x/wk for the first two weeks then two weeks off.

yep, exactly that, two weeks on only taking it before workouts three times a week.
Nizoral shampoo, ill look into it... shampoo on the face sounds odd ha ha

[cjheadrick]

Originally Posted by Newport23

Had a great workout today with killer pumps. Maybe all in my head.

sounds like a great start. still waiting on delivery! urghhhh!
could you be more descriptive?

[Newport23]

Epistane / Mega-Zol Cycle

20mg Epi Daily - 250 ? 300mg M Zol Daily - 6 week cycle

Age 35
Weight 218

7 ? 9 works out a week. 2 ? 3 days Cardio Only.
Weight is down from a sloppy 302lbs

2 ? 3 years using some type of PH or things I would rather not say.

Basic support supps are being used with this cycle.

Un-Basic Supps ? Orange Triad by Controlled Labs

Bench 410 lbs all other lifts suck so not gonna share them 

Going to keep protein intake high sugar and fat and the lower side. Cake batter Muscle milk rocks

PCT = Clomid and liquid letro

[AFOX]

Bump the epi up to 30mgs. I'm on this same cycle with Liquidrone(tren) by AMS, and the AH-89( mega-zol) at 150mgs, and epi at 30mgs throughout. Adding a tren compound is perfect for an epi cycle, as it s dry with great strenght gains, and the tren kicks in about a week sooner than the epi. I'm jacked beyond belief with cycle on day 17 right now.

[AnthonyBishop]

Originally Posted by cjheadrick

yep, exactly that, two weeks on only taking it before workouts three times a week.
Nizoral shampoo, ill look into it... shampoo on the face sounds odd ha ha

It also helps DHT from binding to androgen receptors in the scalp.

I might end up doing a pulse cycle down the line. I'll follow along.

[Newport23]

Originally Posted by AFOX

Bump the epi up to 30mgs. I'm on this same cycle with Liquidrone(tren) by AMS, and the AH-89( mega-zol) at 150mgs, and epi at 30mgs throughout. Adding a tren compound is perfect for an epi cycle, as it s dry with great strenght gains, and the tren kicks in about a week sooner than the epi. I'm jacked beyond belief with cycle on day 17 right now.

ok just poped 10mg more....are youn saying add a tren compound? I happen to have some black chia lab super tren sitting in fromt off me.....I'am kinda a supp hoard.

[cjheadrick]

woo hoo, arrived this morning... will let you know how it goes

[Newport23]

Originally Posted by cjheadrick

woo hoo, arrived this morning... will let you know how it goes

1 week into cycle and looking and feeling lean. Lifts have not increased, and weights is down to 218 from 224. Pumps are sick at gym.

[~Hades~]

Originally Posted by adamp888

nah i dont mind but do you think i should use novedex xt or reversitol

You'll be in for a rude awakening if you use Novedex XT for pct.

Do you know what pct is for?

[Newport23]

Originally Posted by jason-bourne

You'll be in for a rude awakening if you use Novedex XT for pct.

Do you know what pct is for?

I agree bro...PCT should be the best of the best. If you can find it in the store.....don't buy it.

[adamp888]

Originally Posted by jason-bourne

You'll be in for a rude awakening if you use Novedex XT for pct.

Do you know what pct is for?

yes, i do know what pct is for but i cant get my hands on a traditional serm like nolva or clomid. i heard resveratrol has serm like capabilities...

[Newport23]

Originally Posted by adamp888

yes, i do know what pct is for but i cant get my hands on a traditional serm like nolva or clomid. i heard resveratrol has serm like capabilities...

Bro do a search for it again liqiud stuff... it is legal.. labeled as research chems.

[Newport23]

Feeling and looking leaner in only one week. BP is in check, but chest is feeling very tight. No real edurence or lift increase but weight is down a few lbs.

[cjheadrick]

my third day at 40mg:

bench up 3kg
squat up 10kg

stiff-leg deadlifts...ridiculous pump on lower back
best leg pump i've had to be honest.

vascularity has increased overall.
back day tomorrow.

weird thing is... my weight is up 3lbs even though cals are sitting at 2500 mark.
abs still as visible so i doubt its water retention.

using nizoral and Benzoyl peroxide to combact potential acne and so far so good.

what do you think about adding novedex xt on the days where im not taking epistane?
e.g

monday - 40mg
tuesday - novedex xt 3 pills
wednesday - 40mg
thursday - novedex xt 3 pills
friday - 40mg
saturday - novedex xt 3 pills
sunday novedex xt 3 pills

any feedback would be good.

[~Hades~]

Originally Posted by cjheadrick

what do you think about adding novedex xt on the days where im not taking epistane?
e.g

monday - 40mg
tuesday - novedex xt 3 pills
wednesday - 40mg
thursday - novedex xt 3 pills
friday - 40mg
saturday - novedex xt 3 pills
sunday novedex xt 3 pills

any feedback would be good.

I cant imagine its a good idea and 3 is way too much for your size anyway. What is your reason for adding it in the first place?

[cjheadrick]

Originally Posted by jason-bourne

I cant imagine its a good idea and 3 is way too much for your size anyway. What is your reason for adding it in the first place?

its gaspari's testosterone booster novedex xt not the serm nolvadex..
taking it between dosages to keep test high.
3 too high..? ill look into it

[~Hades~]

Originally Posted by cjheadrick

its gaspari's testosterone booster novedex xt not the serm nolvadex..
taking it between dosages to keep test high.
3 too high..? ill look into it

Yeah, its also an AI that will crush your estrogen if taken at too high of a dose. There's absolutely no way I would incorporate something like in my first cycle, let alone a pulse cycle.

If you want to keep test high(er), go with something that will naturally stimulate production instead of a steroidal AI.

[cjheadrick]

Originally Posted by jason-bourne

Yeah, its also an AI that will crush your estrogen if taken at too high of a dose. There's absolutely no way I would incorporate something like in my first cycle, let alone a pulse cycle.

If you want to keep test high(er), go with something that will naturally stimulate production instead of a steroidal AI.

what do you rekon running the novedex xt at 2 pills per day on the 2 weeks off epistane during the pulse cycle?

[~Hades~]

Originally Posted by cjheadrick

what do you rekon running the novedex xt at 2 pills per day on the 2 weeks off epistane during the pulse cycle?

2 per day will still most likely be too high for your weight.

Honestly I have no experience with pulsing and havent studied it either so I'm not the best person to ask. I just dont think the combination of those compounds would be beneficial. I could be wrong tho. Post your question in the main supp section, more people will see it there.

[cjheadrick]

Originally Posted by jason-bourne

2 per day will still most likely be too high for your weight.

Honestly I have no experience with pulsing and havent studied it either so I'm not the best person to ask. I just dont think the combination of those compounds would be beneficial. I could be wrong tho. Post your question in the main supp section, more people will see it there.

have you taken anything like epistane before?
what have you taken?