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05-02-2009, 10:01 AM
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Getting Sore
So I started going heavy in the gym this week. Previously doing high reps but changed it up for the week (I love going heavy!). Every time I finish a workout I am just about to collapse. Tired/exhausted and usually really tight for a few days afterward but that?s it... I'm not sore. My sessions usually consist of about an hour with supersets and 30-45min of some cardio (HIIT or LI).
I know the feeling has something to do with lactic acid build-up but I was hoping someone might have even more insight as to why I'm able to get out of bed easily in the morning. I promise there is absolutely NO slacking off here.
Am I doing something wrong? I love being sore (and miss it) so I?m confused.
Thanks in advance.
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05-02-2009, 10:04 AM
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mmm high volume
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Don't gauge your progress by how sore you are - eventually your body just gets used to the fact that you're being that active, so the soreness stops (for the most part). However, you should still feel a good pump after your workout... and if your energy is shot by the end of it, then you can't really say you didn't hit it hard enough, right?
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05-02-2009, 10:05 AM
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Don't worry about it you don't always get sore and it's not an indicator of how hard you worked out.
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05-02-2009, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by BurnIt2daGround
So I started going heavy in the gym this week. Previously doing high reps but changed it up for the week (I love going heavy!). Every time I finish a workout I am just about to collapse. Tired/exhausted and usually really tight for a few days afterward but that?s it... I'm not sore. My sessions usually consist of about an hour with supersets and 30-45min of some cardio (HIIT or LI).
I know the feeling has something to do with lactic acid build-up but I was hoping someone might have even more insight as to why I'm able to get out of bed easily in the morning. I promise there is absolutely NO slacking off here.
Am I doing something wrong? I love being sore (and miss it) so I?m confused.
Thanks in advance.
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While the cause is not clearly known, the lactic acid angle has been dispensed with years ago as the cause of DOMS.
While the reasons appear to be multi-factoral, the current line of thought is that the exercise causes mechanical damage/micro-trauma or oxidative damage to the muscle fibers and/or creates excess amounts of ROS, which is then followed by inflammation and a cascade of other metabolic events. And it's the inflammation, swelling and pressure on nerves, prostaglandin elevation, protein remodeling and whole host of other downsteam adaptive and repair processes that manifest themselves outwardly as indicators.
If you feel that you need to be sore, work harder and throw more volume at yourself. Otherwise, ->>> http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpo...01&postcount=8
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05-02-2009, 11:38 AM
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Dat's quack-tastic!
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The acid build-up usually only lasts for a few hours max for me - I can feel it especially in my arms. Like others have said, getting sore is not a measure for progress; especially if you are lifting heavy HST instead of HVT.
I rarely get sore anymore but if I do, it's usually from an exercise I haven't done in awhile or heavy deadlift.
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05-02-2009, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by theshoupguy
Don't gauge your progress by how sore you are - eventually your body just gets used to the fact that you're being that active, so the soreness stops (for the most part). However, you should still feel a good pump after your workout... and if your energy is shot by the end of it, then you can't really say you didn't hit it hard enough, right? 
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Originally Posted by in10city
While the cause is not clearly known, the lactic acid angle has been dispensed with years ago as the cause of DOMS.
While the reasons appear to be multi-factoral, the current line of thought is that the exercise causes mechanical damage/micro-trauma or oxidative damage to the muscle fibers and/or creates excess amounts of ROS, which is then followed by inflammation and a cascade of other metabolic events. And it's the inflammation, swelling and pressure on nerves, prostaglandin elevation, protein remodeling and whole host of other downsteam adaptive and repair processes that manifest themselves outwardly as indicators.
If you feel that you need to be sore, work harder and throw more volume at yourself. Otherwise, ->>> http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpo...01&postcount=8
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cliffs: soreness does not equate to progress/gains/great workout/etc...
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05-02-2009, 04:10 PM
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Up in this mother****er
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Quote:
Originally Posted by in10city
While the reasons appear to be multi-factoral, the current line of thought is that the exercise causes mechanical damage/micro-trauma or oxidative damage to the muscle fibers and/or creates excess amounts of ROS, which is then followed by inflammation and a cascade of other metabolic events. And it's the inflammation, swelling and pressure on nerves, prostaglandin elevation, protein remodeling and whole host of other downsteam adaptive and repair processes that manifest themselves outwardly as indicators.
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Wish I can see the reaction on her face if u answered her like this in real...
Last edited by Finnegan Bell; 05-02-2009 at 04:16 PM.
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05-02-2009, 06:59 PM
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Wish I can see the reaction on her face if u answered her like this in real...
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LOL...............would be great!
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05-03-2009, 01:19 AM
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Hey now boys... I may be blonde but I am not dumb... the repeated use of inflammation does not intimidate me.
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05-03-2009, 01:24 AM
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Hey now boys... I may be blonde...
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Pics?
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05-03-2009, 01:28 AM
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Soreness decreases as adaptation increases (which increases with frequency).
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05-03-2009, 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by DJAuto
Soreness decreases as adaptation increases (which increases with frequency).
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Yes. lack of soreness could indicate too many times doing exactly the same thing workout after workout. Change:
-frequency (increase)
-weight (sets/reps)from high to low or vice versa
-exercises that work the same muscles
-exercise order from what you usually do in each specific workout
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05-03-2009, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by DaRk LuCiFeR
Pics?
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Use your imagination...
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05-03-2009, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Tyrbolift
Yes. lack of soreness could indicate too many times doing exactly the same thing workout after workout. Change:
-frequency (increase)
-weight (sets/reps)from high to low or vice versa
-exercises that work the same muscles
-exercise order from what you usually do in each specific workout
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Point well made. Might need to get more creative... Thank you!
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05-03-2009, 11:01 AM
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Use your imagination...
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My imagination ain't too good.
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05-03-2009, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by DaRk LuCiFeR
My imagination ain't too good.
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dont realy matter what her face is like, have you seen her body (SAVAGE)
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05-03-2009, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by spider28
dont realy matter what her face is like, have you seen her body (SAVAGE)
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lol I have. I'm just messing with her.
I bet her face matches her body well.
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05-03-2009, 11:28 AM
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lol I have. I'm just messing with her.
I bet her face matches her body well.
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id hope it does and if it dosnt, thats why god gave us paper bags
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