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Old 04-28-2009, 11:21 AM   #61
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Question Benching for Dummies 102

Hmmm. Didn't mean to imply that it's a dumb exercise. I just liked the 'quirky' title that's all. Flat bench? They're all 'flat'. Regardless. You got great 'traps'. Y Caramba...dude..
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Old 04-28-2009, 11:30 AM   #62
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I don't get it. You did a cycle? How long was your bulk. What bf were you before you bulked. How much weight did you gain. WTF!
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Old 04-28-2009, 12:02 PM   #63
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good bulk but don't listen to these morons that say you're 20%+ bodyfat.. rofl. you're 15%ish for sure.
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Old 04-28-2009, 06:46 PM   #64
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I don't get it. You did a cycle? How long was your bulk. What bf were you before you bulked. How much weight did you gain. WTF!
OP must be on roids, he wont even answer

w/e idc i just was askin a question, its your body.

i can bulk without roids and get that size, genetics ftw. its hard as hell stayin LEAN imo.
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OP must be on roids, he wont even answer

w/e idc i just was askin a question, its your body.

i can bulk without roids and get that size, genetics ftw. its hard as hell stayin LEAN imo.
Why don't you than. Show us? Back up what you say. Talk is cheap dude.
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how many kcals you bulked at? time frame?
Never counted but I do eat **** load of clean food. About 8 to 10 meals a day. Plus shakes.

Time frame about six months.
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Old 04-28-2009, 07:10 PM   #67
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Great job. I'll be curious to see how much weight and size you can hold onto during pct.
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wow just wow, amazing progress wish i had a body like that :P.. repped
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OP must be on roids, he wont even answer

w/e idc i just was askin a question, its your body.

i can bulk without roids and get that size, genetics ftw. its hard as hell stayin LEAN imo.
Don't start that douch bag talk, this thread isn't a debate on roids. "i can bulk without roids and get that size" strong claim without already accomplishing it. Post pics if you ever do & then you can be proud but until then stfu, no need to hate on others either way.

Once again, nice job on the bulk op.
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Jesus, I compared your avatar to those pics... WOW, I'ma read the thread to see if you answer this, but break down the diet and lifts, breh!

And **** all the people like "psh, I could do that too!" Then do it! The hardest **** in the world is making gains after the first 6 months of training, gotta respect every pound!
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OP must be on roids, he wont even answer

w/e idc i just was askin a question, its your body.

i can bulk without roids and get that size, genetics ftw. its hard as hell stayin LEAN imo.
lol your scrawny as ****(compared to op)

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OP must be on roids, he wont even answer

w/e idc i just was askin a question, its your body.

i can bulk without roids and get that size, genetics ftw. its hard as hell stayin LEAN imo.
you really 23?
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Am I the only one who thinks his bodyfat is lower than 16? No way its near 20. He has ab definition! At least a 4 pack. This guy is just big, with muscles, not fat. If he tricked up the photo with only overhead lighting and got all the shadows like some people do he'd look pretty ripped. Good job OP
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Why don't you than. Show us? Back up what you say. Talk is cheap dude.

i guess you could say talk is cheap this is the internet.........

i dont want to look like you, ive tried hard to get abs.

i was a lineman back in highschool

buffgrk why would i lie about my age? im 23 years old, i graduated HS in 2003.......

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Don't start that douch bag talk, this thread isn't a debate on roids. "i can bulk without roids and get that size" strong claim without already accomplishing it. Post pics if you ever do & then you can be proud but until then stfu, no need to hate on others either way.

Once again, nice job on the bulk op.
my bad i dont want to start off on a bad note on BB.com

just this guy reminds of dudes in the gym............juice i guess or w/e he is on........an im stronger than them an look better. whats wrong with bulking with a proper diet? it works..........

an i wish somebody would debate with me on this.........go back to the first page. GUY has no legs for his size. lets be serious. guy tells me talk is cheap, if i wanted to take the stuff he was on im sure i could look better and many other people, roids doesnt mean he knows how to train. this is why im studyin NASM right now for guys like him.
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my bad i dont want to start off on a bad note on BB.com

just this guy reminds of dudes in the gym............juice i guess or w/e he is on........an im stronger than them an look better. whats wrong with bulking with a proper diet? it works..........

an i wish somebody would debate with me on this.........go back to the first page. GUY has no legs for his size. lets be serious. guy tells me talk is cheap, if i wanted to take the stuff he was on im sure i could look better and many other people, roids doesnt mean he knows how to train. this is why im studyin NASM right now for guys like him.


that's all I could muster for you my friend.
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Do another cycle and just train legs, they lag, especially your hams as seen in 2nd pic.
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Do another cycle and just train legs, they lag, especially your hams as seen in 2nd pic.

stop with the cycle bull****.

My legs need a bit of work. I grow really fast it won;t be a problem for me. I also looked at your leg pix. They are pretty good... looks exactly like mine but pretty good.

ctAL860: post some pix of your legs?

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Strong idiocity in this here thread, good job OP.
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Great job! You put on some serious size! Good luck when you cut, you'll look jacked!
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stop with the cycle bull****.

My legs need a bit of work. I grow really fast it won;t be a problem for me. I also looked at your leg pix. They are pretty good... looks exactly like mine but pretty good.

ctAL860: post some pix of your legs?
Well from the thread title it sounds to me like you're making fun of people who do a cut/bulk cycle to achieve gains when all you had to do was stack Test and Dbol to get yours. Not everyone shares the same training view. Just sayin.
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Well from the thread title it sounds to me like you're making fun of people who do a cut/bulk cycle to achieve gains when all you had to do was stack Test and Dbol to get yours. Not everyone shares the same training view. Just sayin.
This is the main reason I posted that snide comment at first that so many thought was neg worthy. Doing what you did clean would have taken years to get that size. Of course you're going to grow fast when your test levels are artificially higher than others.

FYI, here's his diet/cycle log for those interested. OP, you deff. look like you knew what you were doing. Great gains! Also OP, I'd like to see how your gains held after your PCT.

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Well from the thread title it sounds to me like you're making fun of people who do a cut/bulk cycle to achieve gains when all you had to do was stack Test and Dbol to get yours. Not everyone shares the same training view. Just sayin.
You make it sound that easy. Stack compound X plus compound X = gain of 300lb of muscle. DUDE get your head out of your ASS and use your noodle for second.

lol I am not making fun of any one. I was trying to say it is bull**** talking about bulking and than cutting. My main point I was trying to bring to the table was that people should bust there ass in the gym,sleep and eat right. Again cycle or not it really does not matter.

If everyone cycled we would all look like "arnold" and you would see jacked guys walking around like it was the norm. You can bulk/cut take all the drugs in the world and never achieve what top pros or bodybuilders of golden age achieved. Unless you have the genetics the will to fight for what you want. Than you have a small tiny chance!!!!!!!

So STFU with this cycle bull****. I have perfect confidence I will hold onto every ounce of muscle and continue to build more mass.

Bring on hate just makes me bust my ass more.

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OP must be on roids, he wont even answer

w/e idc i just was askin a question, its your body.

i can bulk without roids and get that size, genetics ftw. its hard as hell stayin LEAN imo.
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good job op, great gains.

I would say bf wise 15-17%, judging by your avi, you should have no trouble getting it down.
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great job op, lookin good. but for the record, it is very possibly to make good gains naturally off of bulk/cut cycle...ive done it and am still doing it.
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great job op, lookin good. but for the record, it is very possibly to make good gains naturally off of bulk/cut cycle...ive done it and am still doing it.
i never said you couldn't to each is own.


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great job op, lookin good. but for the record, it is very possibly to make good gains naturally off of bulk/cut cycle...ive done it and am still doing it.
Also for the record, it takes great genetics to do so. Not many people can get to your size naturally, they just don't have the growth potential/genetics you have. But you are correct, it is very possible for the ones that have those genetics. Either way it takes a ton of hard work and dedication. A lot of people don't give credit to those who use help like it's some magic pill you take and all or a sudden you look like Arnold without putting in any work. That is very far from the truth.
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