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04-22-2009, 09:33 PM
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Trinity stack by Neogenix
Hay guys was wondering if anyone has heard anything or knows anything about the trinity stack by neogenix supremacy, amplitude, and regenesan...if they had any beneficial effects without any detrimental sides or just in general wat results they had...if not do you know any other good natural test boosters that isnt bioforge (only because i already know about bio forge)...just trying to learn about these natural test boosters ahead of time
(im not going to take these untill im 18 and bulk myself up to 180) (i am 5" 8)
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04-22-2009, 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Mrsliz1724
Hay guys was wondering if anyone has heard anything or knows anything about the trinity stack by neogenix supremacy, amplitude, and regenesan...if they had any beneficial effects without any detrimental sides or just in general wat results they had...if not do you know any other good natural test boosters that isnt bioforge (only because i already know about bio forge)...just trying to learn about these natural test boosters ahead of time
(im not going to take these untill im 18 and bulk myself up to 180) (i am 5" 8)
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Neogenix does not and will not condone the use of the Trinity Stack to anyone under the age of 18. I think it's great you are starting your research early, but you may be jumping the gun a bit. The Trinity Stack is a very advanced stack and provides users with great results; but is typically geared towards one who has already maxed out gains via multiple other routes which is typically well past the 18 year old age disclaimer; although anything is possible.
I would look into creatines, NO's, and the like and max out quality gains from all angles prior to even considering test boosters and hormone augmenters. From there then, start choosing them via a solo route before stacking them. Remember, building muscle is a marathon, and once you turn it into a sprint, you will fail.
Best of luck and let me know if I can be of any more help.
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04-22-2009, 10:12 PM
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thats what i figured that it was a lot more advanced then something like bio forge and probably should only take one at a time. If i do go with something of this type it would be far into the end of the summer after taking supps like ultima+one etc. creatine mono and something like mass x or a weight gainer to bulk up a lot...hoping to gain a good amount of mass and weight through this new compound excersise (5x5 bill star/madcowelite) and im going to through a little twist on it... so hopefully that works, hopefully these new supps work, and hopefully i bulk and gain muscle as planned, and if i do i think by end of summer i should be able to take one of these hopefully one of the lesser intense ones...any ideas on what i should do when i reach this point of a whole lot of gains...
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04-22-2009, 10:55 PM
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i took supremacy and it didnt do **** for me. just gave me shortness of breath, which stopped after i finnished the bottle
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04-22-2009, 11:08 PM
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maybe your body reacted differently only say that because i saw a few logs where people relaly reacted well to it
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04-23-2009, 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by EuphoriaPL
i took supremacy and it didnt do **** for me. just gave me shortness of breath, which stopped after i finnished the bottle
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That is def not the norm, but it is next to impossible to design a supplement that will be 100% effective. Even pharmacological medications which go through ridiculous amounts of tedious studies are still ineffective for some. For a lot of people though, they are very pleased and make great gains.
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04-23-2009, 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by XCriticalBenchX
That is def not the norm, but it is next to impossible to design a supplement that will be 100% effective. Even pharmacological medications which go through ridiculous amounts of tedious studies are still ineffective for some. For a lot of people though, they are very pleased and make great gains.
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x2 i loved regenessen w/ supremacy....sometimes people have coincidental things happen and immediately blame a supplement...not saying that it wasn't this but also a lot of times later you get the full story and realize it was something else the person was doing or taking
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I like the combo of letro during,caber onhand in case of prolat issues and clomid for pct.
my response:are you kidding me....this is the biggest f#cking spewing of coping and pasting...what have you ran that required this pct....dude give up on the advice! this is about as good as you giving out lessons on proper squatting techniques.....
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04-23-2009, 06:20 AM
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with supremacy and regenessen will you be doing pct?
supremacy and amplitude what is the difference between? are they the same?
Last edited by wicked_jester; 04-23-2009 at 06:26 AM.
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04-23-2009, 06:57 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrsliz1724
thats what i figured that it was a lot more advanced then something like bio forge
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Are you comparing a 3 products stack to Bio Forge? That's unfair...
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04-23-2009, 09:37 AM
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lol ya pretty much sry huge...just wondering what people think about these types of products...as i am talking to you now through PM...i am tring to get a hold on all these natural test boosts to understand them, the effects, anything i should be concerned or excited about etc...reading studies and research and what not, and also as you see, asking the people of this board there opinions...this is all if i actually do use it months from now
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04-23-2009, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by EuphoriaPL
i took supremacy and it didnt do **** for me. just gave me shortness of breath, which stopped after i finnished the bottle
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This is the first I have heard of any reaction like this to Supremacy. Is there anything else you started taking around this time? Shortness of breath is often times a symptom of an allergic reaction, when was it that you took the product, how long ago?
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Originally Posted by wicked_jester
with supremacy and regenessen will you be doing pct?
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PCT is not required as it is not suppressive; in fact the opposite, as it can be used for PCT.
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Originally Posted by wicked_jester
supremacy and amplitude what is the difference between? are they the same?
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With Supremacy you have (testosterone (T)+/cortisol-/nutrient uptake+), and Amplitude (protein turnover+/growth factors+/adaptogenic support+). Both are considered non-hormonal as there are no steroid hidden in the products, but Supremacy does increase T levels so it is hormonal, just that its you own hormones being increase and not from an external source. Amplitude dosnt effect hormones at all, just normalizes them. Its power if from affecting transcription factors.
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Originally Posted by Mrsliz1724
i am tring to get a hold on all these natural test boosts to understand them, the effects, anything i should be concerned or excited about etc...reading studies and research and what not, and also as you see, asking the people of this board there opinions...this is all if i actually do use it months from now
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Once you turn 18, just use Supremacy standalone as you will be more then satisfied. So you kniw what each ingredent does:
Cissus Quadrangularis Ketosterone Extract (reduces cortisols cataboilic affects[wasting])
Urtica Dioica Lignan Complex (Free's testosterone) aka:3,4-divanillyltetrahydrofuran 95%
Momordica Charantia Extract (stimulates GLUT-4 for increased nutrient uptake)
Indol-3-Carbinol (changes bad estrogen to good for better T:E ratio)
Vitex Agnus Monoterpene Complex (Suppresses prolactin and boosts LH)
Forskohlii Diterpine Complex (Increases cAMP, T signaling, thyroid hormones, ect)
Piper Nigrum Extract (increases bioavailability)
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04-23-2009, 11:44 AM
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thank you, do you think you could do the same breakdown for amplitude and regenesan? sry to bug you but wanted a better understanding of this stack and which one i would be more interested in...
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04-23-2009, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Mrsliz1724
lol ya pretty much sry huge...just wondering what people think about these types of products...as i am talking to you now through PM...i am tring to get a hold on all these natural test boosts to understand them, the effects, anything i should be concerned or excited about etc...reading studies and research and what not, and also as you see, asking the people of this board there opinions...this is all if i actually do use it months from now
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Got no PM yet...
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04-23-2009, 01:49 PM
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o damn lol sry huge for some reason i thought the person i was talking to was you but its some other guy thanks anyways lmao...
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04-23-2009, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by sdr@neogenix
This is the first I have heard of any reaction like this to Supremacy. Is there anything else you started taking around this time? Shortness of breath is often times a symptom of an allergic reaction, when was it that you took the product, how long ago?
PCT is not required as it is not suppressive; in fact the opposite, as it can be used for PCT.
With Supremacy you have (testosterone (T)+/cortisol-/nutrient uptake+), and Amplitude (protein turnover+/growth factors+/adaptogenic support+). Both are considered non-hormonal as there are no steroid hidden in the products, but Supremacy does increase T levels so it is hormonal, just that its you own hormones being increase and not from an external source. Amplitude dosnt effect hormones at all, just normalizes them. Its power if from affecting transcription factors.
Once you turn 18, just use Supremacy standalone as you will be more then satisfied. So you kniw what each ingredent does:
Cissus Quadrangularis Ketosterone Extract (reduces cortisols cataboilic affects[wasting])
Urtica Dioica Lignan Complex (Free's testosterone) aka:3,4-divanillyltetrahydrofuran 95%
Momordica Charantia Extract (stimulates GLUT-4 for increased nutrient uptake)
Indol-3-Carbinol (changes bad estrogen to good for better T:E ratio)
Vitex Agnus Monoterpene Complex (Suppresses prolactin and boosts LH)
Forskohlii Diterpine Complex (Increases cAMP, T signaling, thyroid hormones, ect)
Piper Nigrum Extract (increases bioavailability)
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thanks for the answers
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04-23-2009, 06:07 PM
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thanks for the answers 
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I am back from a long day in the hospital, any more questions.. feel free to ask.
SDR's post should clear up a lot  .
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04-24-2009, 02:12 AM
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just a follow up question can i first use Competitive Edge Labs H-Drol for 30day cycle and then follow it up with the trinity stack? would that be possible
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04-24-2009, 05:07 AM
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just a follow up question can i first use Competitive Edge Labs H-Drol for 30day cycle and then follow it up with the trinity stack? would that be possible
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H-Drol is a designer steroid that will cause shut-down and supression of your bodies natural ability to maintain homeostasis and produce hormones it normally does day in and day out. With that being said, it carries much more risk. I am not sure how old you are, but H-drol is recommended for 21+ for a reason. If you fall into that category of being old enough, AND have your physique developed enough, than the trinity stack can make a great "addition" to any PCT to continue, prevent fat gain/rebound and maintain gains, but should not be used for the sole purpose of recovery.
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04-26-2009, 07:27 PM
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thank you, do you think you could do the same breakdown for amplitude and regenesan? sry to bug you but wanted a better understanding of this stack and which one i would be more interested in...
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Amplitude:
Rhaponticum Carthamoides Ecdysterone Complex - Increases protein turnover
Ashwhaghanda Withanolide Extract - Suppresses cortisol secretions
Rhodiola Rosea Rosavin Extract - Combats physical and mental stress
Lepidium Meyenii Macamide Complex - increases growth factor levels
Piper Nigrum Extract - bioavailability enhancer
Adaptogens like these have many other positive benefits, but these are the main reasons for the inclusion in a muscle building product
Regenesen:
Avena Sativa Avenacoside Complex - Luteinizing hormone (LH) stimulator and frees SHBG bound testosterone (T)
Urtica Dioica Lignan Extract - Free's bound T
Fadogia Agrestis Saponin Complex - Potent LH stimulator
6-Bromolane? (6-bromo-3,17-dioxoetioallocholane) - Aromatase inhibitor for indirectly increasing testosterone production by lowering estrogen levels
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05-01-2009, 07:05 AM
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is this trinity stack for cutting or bulking?
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05-01-2009, 07:40 AM
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is this trinity stack for cutting or bulking?
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It can easily be used for both, but its most notable effect is for a Body Recomp (muscle growth w/ fat loss), or also known as a "Lean Bulk"
Here is a perfect example from a recent log: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=115959641
Over the coarse of 8-weeks, he lost almost 15lbs of fat and gained more then 10lbs of muscle simultaneously. This coming from a natural stack! There was obviously a lot of hard work on his part, but as you can see the stack really does what it says.
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05-01-2009, 07:43 AM
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is this trinity stack for cutting or bulking?
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My honest opinion on the stack is that it really shines in both directions and ultimately comes down to how much effort you put in. If you want to cut and go hardcore with your diet and trying; the fat will come off while you retain strength easily. If you hardcore bulk, expect to make high quality gains. Like SDR mentioned though, it really stands out on a recomp.
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05-01-2009, 08:31 AM
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im about to finish my novedex xt can i take the trinity stack after novedex xt or wait for 1 month to use thr trinity stack?
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05-01-2009, 10:30 AM
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im about to finish my novedex xt can i take the trinity stack after novedex xt or wait for 1 month to use thr trinity stack?
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I would wait for the 4-weeks then start the stack.
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