Men's Health TNT Diet

[psalms66]

This is almost exactly like the keto diet. Check it out.

http://www.menshealth.com/cda/articl...0012281eac____

[Cape1]

Does look like a knock off of the CKD, or even TKD. The only thing I don't like is the initial month without a carb up.. Given that it's Mens Health and they are generally advocating some variety of the Jane Fonda workout, catering to "men" who wear tights, lifting gloves and perfume in the gym I can see the point.

For the rest of us who actually bring about self harm in the gym, I think the month without a carb up would be excessive. My opinion based on how my muscles feel at the end of a week without carbs....I wouldn't want to go a month.

[Atavis]

The Fat-Burning Time Zone

The Nutrition Tactic: A low-carb diet


What You'll Eat: All of the vegetables, meat, cheese, and eggs that you want.


The Reloading Time Zone

The Nutrition Tactic: A high-carb diet

When You'll Use This Tactic: Up to 2 days (36 hours, actually) a week, depending on your goals.

It's just another CKD rip off. Someone read up on it, wrote their version and are trying to make $$.

I hate that magazine.

[maxpot46]

Originally Posted by Atavis

It's just another CKD rip off. Someone read up on it, wrote their version and are trying to make $$.

I hate that magazine.

Personally, I'm happy to see "new" diets that repackage CKD/TKDs. This is information that is having a LOT of trouble penetrating to the world outside of bodybuilding -- even diabetics are put on high carb diets by their doctors (and the ADA recommended diet is a high carb diet). Thinking strategically, IMO ketogenic diets have a huge marketing problem, and if this "new" TNT diet can reach more people who are not hard-core BBs, then that's all to the good.

[Atavis]

Unfortunately, with repackaged diets you end up with things like the South Beach Diet.

Even worse, you also end up with alot of people trying to do the diet halfass, which leads to poor results and a bad reputation/public image.

Even worse than that, my cost of eggs, meat and vegetables increase.

[Eileen]

Don't worry, I don't think there will ever be enough people doing proper CKD to push the price of rib steak out of our reach.

[Druluv75]

TNT is a ripp-off but in all honesty, CKD is not a totally new idea. Research date back as far as the 1800's that people weren't suppose to eat a lot grain. Most research showed that a good diet should consist of fats and animal protein and raw veggies. It was Vince Gironda who sort of came up with the CKD approach, and Dr. DiPasquale medically prove that diet like this would work. Even though most people credit bodyopus and Lyle Mcdonald with the research, it is more important that more people understand this lifestyle is a healthier and natural lifestyle to live. Its good to see that Men's Health will bring this message to more people.

[eqlb]

I cant wait to see all those damn vegetarians start bashing this and saying its wrong as well as evil.

I do agree that this is a rip off. And whats with the name tnt diet....to me thats sounds like your about to exploded. And not lose any weight....

[Ravio]

Originally Posted by eqlb

I cant wait to see all those damn vegetarians start bashing this and saying its wrong as well as evil.

I do agree that this is a rip off. And whats with the name tnt diet....to me thats sounds like your about to exploded. And not lose any weight....

hey i take offense to that lol :P

every product, idea, or even diet has a rip off or copy..that's the way the world is...everything has some source of inspiration or base..I think it's great that this type of lifestyle is being more exposed but the author should have given some sort of credit as to his version's origins

[eqlb]

but it goes beyond that to me it seems like they own the idea, they give no reference to the original concept and idea or i missed it somewhere

[Atavis]

Originally Posted by Ravio

but the author should have given some sort of credit as to his version's origins

x2

Absolutely.

[Cape1]

Mens health is famous for this kind of thing. I hate that magazine. I hate their articles and I can't stand their hoky, lame ass writing style. Any freshmen English course, at a half way decent college, teaches you to reveal your sources of information when writing a report/essay/article etc. Mabye they're really owned by the New York Times or something..

[Scott~]

So who do you guys think has rights to the "CKD"? Low carb eating has been around for decades and no one "rips off" the other. TNT doesn't offer new information, but it's presented in a way that people can understand easily, that's the point of it all.

I'm certainly not defending Mens Health magazine, as I have many issues with their publications promoting spot reduction (which is impossible) and the whole Abs Diet hoax of getting "a six pack in 6 weeks!", but I see no problems with the way TNT is presented. Is the whole point to make money? Of course, what other point is there? I doubt Adam and Jeff (authors) have a vested interest in getting as many people to eat low carb as possible..... their interest lies in promoting a plan that they personally follow, that they have researched, and that they can sell to the public. This isn't about saving an endangered animal here, it's business, just like any other health professional drums up.

[maxpot46]

Originally Posted by Scott~

So who do you guys think has rights to the "CKD"? Low carb eating has been around for decades and no one "rips off" the other. TNT doesn't offer new information, but it's presented in a way that people can understand easily, that's the point of it all.

I'm certainly not defending Mens Health magazine, as I have many issues with their publications promoting spot reduction (which is impossible) and the whole Abs Diet hoax of getting "a six pack in 6 weeks!", but I see no problems with the way TNT is presented. Is the whole point to make money? Of course, what other point is there? I doubt Adam and Jeff (authors) have a vested interest in getting as many people to eat low carb as possible..... their interest lies in promoting a plan that they personally follow, that they have researched, and that they can sell to the public. This isn't about saving an endangered animal here, it's business, just like any other health professional drums up.

Yep... Heck, I have the "Mullen Diet Stratagem" kicking around in my head. If I ever get around to writing it and marketing it, hey, I might make some money. Sure, it would just be personalized TKD, but in this world info has to be presented in just the right way in order to gain a foothold in the minds of many. That said, it would be a nice touch to throw out some props to previous thinkers.

[Benji Snap]

Looks like its identical to Mauro DiPasquale's Anabolic diet. They pretty much just summarised it and gave it a new name. Atleast give the man some credit...

[Lion Heart]

Originally Posted by Cape1

Does look like a knock off of the CKD, or even TKD. The only thing I don't like is the initial month without a carb up.. Given that it's Mens Health and they are generally advocating some variety of the Jane Fonda workout, catering to "men" who wear tights, lifting gloves and perfume in the gym I can see the point.

For the rest of us who actually bring about self harm in the gym, I think the month without a carb up would be excessive. My opinion based on how my muscles feel at the end of a week without carbs....I wouldn't want to go a month.

I've been a subscriber to Men's Health for years now and could probably squat you with my pinky finger.

If you think Men's Health is anywhere near what your idea of it is then you have either been reading the wrong magazine or are basing your opinions off urban legends.

[Rugger7]

Why I like Men's Health:

Men's Health is actually what got me started into fitness. Without it, I might weigh 700 lbs or be dead by now.

Why I hate Men's Health:

The same reason I hate all fitness magazines. It's a magazine, it's designed to sell stuff, not give you a whole lot of real knowledge. The workouts and nutritional advice are cookie-cuter plans good for keeping desk jockies from wearing expandable Dockers. If you want to be real serious about nutrition and exercise, you are going to have to go elsewhere. They say "get a huge bench in just 4 weeks".. yea right, if you want a huge bench you need to read a powerlifting book, the only way men's health will get you there is if you get hooked by a furniture ad. They give decent advice, their advice will not live up to their claims though.

In fairness:

It's where I got my start, and most of their advice is truthful, its just not as good as it could be. It's a magazine that tries to entertain its audience and encourage them to live healthier without scaring them off. Let's face it, if you gave the entire population a workout and nutritional plan like a lot of people on here follow and told them to stick with it, 95% or more people wouldn't make it more than a few days before they quit. It's a fairly decent middle-of-the-road magazine for people that want information on how to live healthier, but who don't plan on being gung-ho about diet and exercise. They also have lots of nifty little departments and snippets that are entertaining.

Conclusion:

Men's Health will help you drop six inches off your waist in six months (they will probably tell you they can do it in six weeks) They may help you get bigger, or stronger, or leaner, but you will never look like a Men's Health cover model if all you do is follow Men's Health advice unless you were already really close through God-given-genetics before you started reading it.

(I never have looked like a Men's Health cover model, but I will one day before too long, although I wouldn't shave my chest and arms to get on the cover if they offered it to me, unless it pays a lot more than I think it does).

[jdgeary]

At least a major "fitness" publication has decided to look at the science and state to the public that low/no carb diets are a healthy alternative. You have to give them props for that, and why not make some money while they are at it!

[ironsights]

To me the TNT Diet looks like the bastard child of Dan Duchaine's "Underground Body Opus" and "Nutrient Timing". Im not really trying to loose so much as just stay put where i am in wt. but i figured i would try it. It was my first real go at cutting carbs out all together save for the time around my workouts. I didn't do the carb free first 4 weeks but jumped right into low carbs all day. In two days i dropped 7 pounds (162 to 155) but i felt like crap. Im pumping the carbs back up because i dont like being that low.

Some of you mentioned the CKD. I googled it but got only stuff on kidney disease. Can someone hook me up with a link or yet another book i can buy? thanks.

[ometecuhtli2001]

Originally Posted by ironsights

In two days i dropped 7 pounds (162 to 155) but i felt like crap. Im pumping the carbs back up because i dont like being that low.

The thought of dropping weight sounds great - I've gotten twice as big as I used to be but it seems my belly is expanding also. That's not cool! Having said that, I'd rather not risk going low-carb as I have a history of migraines and I'd really like to avoid triggering them.

Originally Posted by ironsights

Some of you mentioned the CKD. I googled it but got only stuff on kidney disease. Can someone hook me up with a link or yet another book i can buy? thanks.

My second-to-last girlfriend was in biomedical research. She mentioned a low-carb diet can cause calcium buildup in the kidneys.

Try a search like "ckd low-carb diet." That'll help narrow the results because CKD stands for "chronic kidney disease." I found this: http://www.bodybuildingdungeon.com/f...-cyclical.html

[Hotheather]

Originally Posted by Atavis

It's just another CKD rip off. Someone read up on it, wrote their version and are trying to make $$.

I hate that magazine.

I HATE THE WOMEN'S HEALTH! IT SUCKS! I'M W/ YOU BUD!!

[MrLovrLovr]

omec why don't you try Keto and find out regarding the headaches .

if you do it right it could very well help a lot ..

not lo-carb

KETO - CKD or TKD

[signature166]

One of the authors of the book, Dr. Jeff Volek conducts primary research at UConn into nutrition, diet, and exercise. He is a huge proponent of the low-carb lifestyle. I don't blame him for wanting to connect with Mens Health to make a few dollars, wouldn't you??
Here is a link to his page at UConn:
http://www.education.uconn.edu/direc...ails.cfm?id=85

It contains a link to his C.V. The man has paid his dues.

On a side note, Alan Aragon is the "Weight-Loss Coach" over at Mens Health and some of their articles are written by well-respected strength and conditioning coaches.

[ometecuhtli2001]

Originally Posted by MrLovrLovr

omec why don't you try Keto and find out regarding the headaches .

if you do it right it could very well help a lot ..

not lo-carb

KETO - CKD or TKD

I was thinking of modifying the plan a bit and doing a transition into it by gradually lowering my carb intake. What I have to research further is where do I get the energy to lift if carbohydrate intake is limited? More reading!