The 2nd Annual MuscleTech $50,000 Transformation Contest Presented By BodySpace.

[AniMaLizTik]

Originally Posted by sdilly22

hahah animal i have joined the club, a girl at the gym gave me the "your face looks like skeletor" comment.

yep, especially on low carb days, i swear my cheeks touch each other lol

your diet sounds crazy man, i couldnt do keto

[TRANSMIGRATION]

Originally Posted by sdilly22

its funny all the cutting carb talk to me because i have been doing no direct carbs and hight fat since feb 1st!!!! all meet and veggies and fat only once a week i eat a baked potato to kick the system, keto diet baby lol

Aww $hit. So I might have a advantage now that I am cutting carbs - Since my body hasn't been turned off to carbs yet. I was taking in 150 carbs a day. I will be cutting down to 50 carbs - all 50 pre-workout for a good pump and that's it. I'm glad to hear that. lol.

[sdilly22]

my weight and bodyfat are sooo close to where i need to be so im good, actually since I'm not used to carbs My muscles fill out fast carbing up should be really easy for me.

[TRANSMIGRATION]

Originally Posted by sdilly22

my weight and bodyfat are sooo close to where i need to be so im good, actually since I'm not used to carbs My muscles fill out fast carbing up should be really easy for me.

Your making want to go Keto on your a$$. lol. You seem like you have your game on point. Your going to look crazy ripped I bet.

*edit* It's official, I'm going KETO on your a$$. lol. Did some reading and two weeks of KETO will be fine. No carbs at all. Now I have to make sure I take my multi-v everyday and pick up some omega-3. I knew I stalled for some reason, had to be the carbs. Me so happy now

[sdilly22]

lol your always changing your game plans pick one and stick to it !

[sdilly22]

Originally Posted by TRANSMIGRATION

Your making want to go Keto on your a$$. lol. You seem like you have your game on point. Your going to look crazy ripped I bet.

*edit* It's official, I'm going KETO on your a$$. lol. Did some reading and two weeks of KETO will be fine. No carbs at all. Now I have to make sure I take my multi-v everyday and pick up some omega-3. I knew I stalled for some reason, had to be the carbs. Me so happy now

good luck it takes a week or two for the body to adapt and learn to use fat instead of carbs for energy,during that time period you'll be alot more tired then normal lol by then the contest will be over

[TRANSMIGRATION]

Originally Posted by sdilly22

lol your always changing your game plans pick one and stick to it !

Damn right. lol. Well I was doing double cardio and actual gained some weight. I have never gained weight from doing double cardio. I have gone KETO once in this contest already - had the weird taste going on. I will be fine but this is a last resort thing.

Originally Posted by sdilly22

good luck it takes a week or two for the body to adapt and learn to use fat instead of carbs for energy,during that time period you'll be alot more tired then normal lol by then the contest will be over

Wishing me luck are ya

I really didn't want to do it but I have to try.. AND it's never to late - if I had that way of thinking going on then I would have quit a long time ago. I can handle being tired, I have the will, and I push weight, weight doesn't push me.

I think I secretly worry you

[sdilly22]

Originally Posted by TRANSMIGRATION

Damn right. lol. Well I was doing double cardio and actual gained some weight. I have never gained weight from doing double cardio. I have gone KETO once in this contest already - had the weird taste going on. I will be fine but this is a last resort thing.



Wishing me luck are ya

I really didn't want to do it but I have to try.. AND it's never to late - if I had that way of thinking going on then I would have quit a long time ago. I can handle being tired, I have the will, and I push weight, weight doesn't push me.

I think I secretly worry you

good luck, I actually really like the keto thing. With keto i dont have ups and downs in my energry levels its just a constant average energy level. I'm off for bi's and tri's and cardio when i get back on i want to see some new pics!!

[Izmanv]

Originally Posted by TRANSMIGRATION

I got some TOP SECRET photos from someone and he looks pretty damn good. You guys better step it up I can't tell you who or show pics unless he says it's ok.

Originally Posted by thepackleader

I didn't tell you? The guy in question has already won! Totally incredible actually.

Thanks, guys! B-)

I feel like I'm so far behind. I plan my final photos for May 2nd. I wish I had an extra three weeks. Two weeks is not enough time to get to where I'd like to be. Like I told you two, I had so many set-backs and Easter weekend I completely fell off the wagon.

I was planning on keeping these private, but my arm hurts - quit twisting it!

These were just some impromptu photos taken on my lunch break. No pump. Holding lots of water. And middle of the week. I look better on the weekends in the morning. I hope that the transformation from start to end is dramatic enough to get first place! I'm shootin for it! Gotta finish strong.

Anyway.....







I thought the sunshine would bring out some of the cuts, but it ended up just washing out. I think my camera was on the wrong setting.

Two more weeks! Cardio is hard-core! Think I may have to go Keto, too.

-top secret Iz

[flynn23]

damn all this keto talk is making me think i might of picked the wrong method

couple more weeks guys. good luck

[IRONCOLE]

Originally Posted by AniMaLizTik

FYI, according to the rules, unless you applied "pro-tan" or any other make-up in your before pics, you can't use in your afters...

from the rules:
a) all Pictures must be taken with the same lighting and background; (b) Pictures must be taken in multiple poses, including front relaxed, back relaxed, abs and thigh, most muscular, and side chest; (c) all Pictures must be taken with you wearing the same color and style of clothing; (d) you must have substantially the same hair-style and (if applicable) makeup in each Picture; (e) one (1) of the Before Pictures and one (1) of the After Pictures must show you holding a national newspaper with the date clearly visible; (f) additionally, one (1) of the Before Pictures and one (1) of the After Pictures must be a close-up photograph of the national newspaper with the date clearly visible and (g) only you and no one else may appear in the Picture. Additional technical requirements for the Pictures are set forth on the entry page.

So I'm still a little confused and mislead by this tan deal. I take it as make-up such as that a female might use on her face since it says where (if applicable) Make up in most causes is not applicable to the male gender. I quote "most causes".

I don't see anything that says you can or can not use tanning products. I know I don't wear make-up though. lol

So I don't see a problem with applying a tanning product if you so choose to do so.

Can the powers that be clarify this for us to make it official?

I mean what if someone did a show that weekend? The pictures for the transformation are not due until May 7th a Thursday, or if they are doing a show the following weekend such as May 9th? You are going to have a tan product applied.

Just something to think about.

[TRANSMIGRATION]

Originally Posted by sdilly22

good luck, I actually really like the keto thing. With keto i dont have ups and downs in my energry levels its just a constant average energy level. I'm off for bi's and tri's and cardio when i get back on i want to see some new pics!!

I feel confident in keto. I will cut protein and carb up day of pics and if I look better the next day I will take more pictures. ARE YOU posting pics when you get back or where you asking the forum as a whole to post some?

Originally Posted by Izmanv

Thanks, guys! B-)

I feel like I'm so far behind. I plan my final photos for May 2nd. I wish I had an extra three weeks. Two weeks is not enough time to get to where I'd like to be. Like I told you two, I had so many set-backs and Easter weekend I completely fell off the wagon.

I was planning on keeping these private, but my arm hurts - quit twisting it!

These were just some impromptu photos taken on my lunch break. No pump. Holding lots of water. And middle of the week. I look better on the weekends in the morning. I hope that the transformation from start to end is dramatic enough to get first place! I'm shootin for it! Gotta finish strong.

Anyway.....



I thought the sunshine would bring out some of the cuts, but it ended up just washing out. I think my camera was on the wrong setting.

Two more weeks! Cardio is hard-core! Think I may have to go Keto, too.

-top secret Iz

I didn't revel your name or show your pics [I can keep secrets]

Looking great man and I hear you about needing more time.

[dfreed02]

finals pics are coming soon everyone, how r u doing!!!!!!!

[speca1k]

Originally Posted by flynn23

damn all this keto talk is making me think i might of picked the wrong method

couple more weeks guys. good luck

Keto = muscle loss, so unless you had a lot to start it often is not the best sacrifice to make. A certain level is appropriate to shed the remaining fat and really lean out towards the end. Keto burns muscle / protein and preserves fat, which is why you want to reach the brink of keto state through a carb up / down cycle. There are other negatives as well but too long to discuss. If you can't drop weight anymore even with 2 cardio sessions that means your calories are to high, cut out a meal and you will lose weight within a few days. But keep the percentages the same, don't cut all carbs

[AniMaLizTik]

Originally Posted by IRONCOLE

So I'm still a little confused and mislead by this tan deal. I take it as make-up such as that a female might use on her face since it says where (if applicable) Make up in most causes is not applicable to the male gender. I quote "most causes".

I don't see anything that says you can or can not use tanning products. I know I don't wear make-up though. lol

So I don't see a problem with applying a tanning product if you so choose to do so.

Can the powers that be clarify this for us to make it official?

I mean what if someone did a show that weekend? The pictures for the transformation are not due until May 7th a Thursday, or if they are doing a show the following weekend such as May 9th? You are going to have a tan product applied.

Just something to think about.

thay already did last year, i was just causing a rucos! protan is acceptable

[CSuponcic]

Guys keto diets just don't make alot of sence. Carbs are protein sparing, they let protein do its job. You just need to figure out how many carbs its takes to sustain your daily activity. Keto diets will eat up your muscle and make you feel weak.

[TRANSMIGRATION]

Originally Posted by speca1k

Keto = muscle loss, so unless you had a lot to start it often is not the best sacrifice to make. A certain level is appropriate to shed the remaining fat and really lean out towards the end. Keto burns muscle / protein and preserves fat, which is why you want to reach the brink of keto state through a carb up / down cycle. There are other negatives as well but too long to discuss. If you can't drop weight anymore even with 2 cardio sessions that means your calories are to high, cut out a meal and you will lose weight within a few days. But keep the percentages the same, don't cut all carbs

I was under the impression that going Keto was good to SAVE muscle. Your body has a constant intake of protein to rebuild muscle which would in most cases likely retain muscle but not lose muscle.. Don't you think? Maybe I read about it wrong.

[JDBascoJr]

I love this thread! it gets me motivated every time... i actually had it as one of my home pages in firefox for a while.

just thought i'd post something real quick about progress. Not where I was planning on being. Had misconceptions about timing, and spent to much time gaining muscle instead of doing more cardio in the beginning. I've always been about the lifting, like most so it hurt me in the competition.

I won't be able to win, but I have a goal for my summer vacation in june to Myrtle Beach, still wanna have some sick abs! Therefore i am still posting pix. Also, to keep myself from failing this semester, i had to cut out the second daily workout to provide more study time.

It has been a rough trip, being in college is a little different than being out in the "real world." I may be bias, but it just began to feel like i had soo much **** going on! Firstly i put this competition before almost everything, including school... thats where i began to get into trouble lol! grades started slipping, which is when i had to cut out the 2nd workout. On top of that work was crazy busy after spring break, and I was working 20-30 hours a week on top of 2 workouts, and classes and projects. So, I had to plan out everything which was quite difficult at times. And i'm sure everyone can relate to the reduced amount of partying/drinking and late nights... the stuff college is known for lol

A rough trip indeed...but sooo worth it! I just can't wait for summer to get here, and i'm on the beach showing off some well earned abs. Dunno what i'm going to look like in the next 2 weeks, but i'll post the pix after the 1st (last day of finals!)

congrats to everyone, this year was sic for pix... like i said very motivating, and I'll be ready for next year when i'll finally be out of school!!

[AniMaLizTik]

Originally Posted by CSuponcic

Guys keto diets just don't make alot of sence. Carbs are protein sparing, they let protein do its job. You just need to figure out how many carbs its takes to sustain your daily activity. Keto diets will eat up your muscle and make you feel weak.

Everyone is different and have different levels of carb sensitivity. The same formula does not apply around the board

Originally Posted by TRANSMIGRATION

I was under the impression that going Keto was good to SAVE muscle. Your body has a constant intake of protein to rebuild muscle which would in most cases likely retain muscle but not lose muscle.. Don't you think? Maybe I read about it wrong.

keto is not the most muscle sparing diet method, but it does burn the most fat in the shortest period of time.

However, it is not good for your metabolism in the long run because your thyroid is stimulated by carbs and your thyroid is what regulates matabolism. This is what I've learned from reading, i have no degree or anything, but from my experience keto burns fat like mad along with muscle and it wrecks your metabolism.

like i said, we're all different

[CSuponcic]

Once your body has gone Keto your burning protein for energy. I have done Keto diets before I came in flat and not as ripped as when I used a mixed ratio diet. My protein most of the time never goes above 150 grams a day. Your body is made to run on carbs you just need to find out exactly how many you need a day to sustain your daily activity.

[TRANSMIGRATION]

Originally Posted by AniMaLizTik

Everyone is different and have different levels of carb sensitivity. The same formula does not apply around the board



keto is not the most muscle sparing diet method, but it does burn the most fat in the shortest period of time.

However, it is not good for your metabolism in the long run because your thyroid is stimulated by carbs and your thyroid is what regulates matabolism. This is what I've learned from reading, i have no degree or anything, but from my experience keto burns fat like mad along with muscle and it wrecks your metabolism.

like i said, we're all different

I don't think Keto for 2 weeks will hurt me - then cut protein and carb up day of pics. 2 weeks of keto or 2 weeks low calories = apples to apples (both eat away at muscle). The keto apples work faster and probably spare more muscle then low calorie alone. I'm already fixed on my heading so Keto it is, Scale is gong out the window.

[JDBascoJr]

Originally Posted by TRANSMIGRATION

I was under the impression that going Keto was good to SAVE muscle. Your body has a constant intake of protein to rebuild muscle which would in most cases likely retain muscle but not lose muscle.. Don't you think? Maybe I read about it wrong.

Just some thoughts on ketosis or ketoacidosis... its basically a condition relevant to diabetics, when they have no insulin production or are insulin resistant and their carb intake basically travels right through them and isn't absorbed into cells. In this state, the body's first reaction to insufficient carb intake is to make ketone bodies by breaking down either dietary or body fats and proteins. Ketone bodies, which are the only other fuel source the brain can function on besides carb, can then make the blood acidic (-acidosis) which in turn raises body pH which is basically bad for you.

I guess the only upside to ketosis is that you will lose weight, not just body fat but body protein as well. you'll get thinner if you go w/ a keto diet, probably really thin... BUT because most of us on this thread still have a functioning pancreas, and adequate insulin production, ANY carb injested will be used by the body, this includes any sources of vegetables, lentils and nuts... which all still have carb.

So in theory a keto diet would be nothing but protein and fat intake, but because most of us aren't diabetic, those few food groups which overlap and contain protein, fat and some carb... we can't actually get an all out NO-CARB diet... unless you are eating nothing but lean meats, and drinking straight olive oil.

Soo in reality its pretty impossible to be on a total keto diet, and any carb you do intake will be absorbed. I guess, a "keto diet" wouldn't be a bad way to go for this competition but i wouldn't bank much on gaining a whole lot of muscle mass if you planned on lifting bc of course how important carb is to gaining muscle.

Take it or leave it, this is just what I know from classes... this is exactly the kind of stuff i've been studying all semester as a dietetics major.

Dunno if this helps, but there you go!

[TRANSMIGRATION]

Originally Posted by CSuponcic

Once your body has gone Keto your burning protein for energy. I have done Keto diets before I came in flat and not as ripped as when I used a mixed ratio diet. My protein most of the time never goes above 150 grams a day. Your body is made to run on carbs you just need to find out exactly how many you need a day to sustain your daily activity.

Keto is very common for body builders. Are you saying you didn't use any Keto to get that body this year? Hmmm??

[TRANSMIGRATION]

Originally Posted by JDBascoJr

Just some thoughts on ketosis or ketoacidosis... its basically a condition relevant to diabetics, when they have no insulin production or are insulin resistant and their carb intake basically travels right through them and isn't absorbed into cells. In this state, the body's first reaction to insufficient carb intake is to make ketone bodies by breaking down either dietary or body fats and proteins. Ketone bodies, which are the only other fuel source the brain can function on besides carb, can then make the blood acidic (-acidosis) which in turn raises body pH which is basically bad for you.

I guess the only upside to ketosis is that you will lose weight, not just body fat but body protein as well. you'll get thinner if you go w/ a keto diet, probably really thin... BUT because most of us on this thread still have a functioning pancreas, and adequate insulin production, ANY carb injested will be used by the body, this includes any sources of vegetables, lentils and nuts... which all still have carb.

So in theory a keto diet would be nothing but protein and fat intake, but because most of us aren't diabetic, those few food groups which overlap and contain protein, fat and some carb... we can't actually get an all out NO-CARB diet... unless you are eating nothing but lean meats, and drinking straight olive oil.

Soo in reality its pretty impossible to be on a total keto diet, and any carb you do intake will be absorbed. I guess, a "keto diet" wouldn't be a bad way to go for this competition but i wouldn't bank much on gaining a whole lot of muscle mass if you planned on lifting bc of course how important carb is to gaining muscle.

Take it or leave it, this is just what I know from classes... this is exactly the kind of stuff i've been studying all semester as a dietetics major.

Dunno if this helps, but there you go!

Nice info. I just don't think any of us will be putting on muscle unless some of you are trying to gain weight. For those of us losing weight it is very hard to put on muscle anyway, that's why lots of people bulk then maintain muscle while losing weight. I do agree that Keto would not be a great long term plan but being only 2 weeks out I think it will be great. Maybe some carbs after a workout would help maintain muscle, hand full of nuts or something.

Great info.

[AniMaLizTik]

Originally Posted by TRANSMIGRATION

Keto is very common for body builders. Are you saying you didn't use any Keto to get that body this year? Hmmm??

trust me man, there are better ways than keto for MOST people. i did a keto diet last summer to cut up and i lost fat but also lost all kinds of muscle and was MUCH smaller than i am right now, not to metion weaker

this cut i just did, With a correctly manipulated macro-nutrient plan centered around carbs and fats, with JUST ENOUGH protein to maintain muscle, my strength stayed the same and i kept 99% of my mass. my legs even GREW

I haven't "rebounded" at all either. I'm still as cut as i was in my afters, but with the keto, as soon as carbs are incorperated back into the diet, i was soft and pudgy in a matter of days. and thats with a GRADUAL increase...

Carbs are not the enemy, at least not for me

[TRANSMIGRATION]

Originally Posted by AniMaLizTik

trust me man, there are better ways than keto for MOST people. i did a keto diet last summer to cut up and i lost fat but also lost all kinds of muscle and was MUCH smaller than i am right now, not to metion weaker

this cut i just did, With a correctly manipulated macro-nutrient plan centered around carbs and fats, with JUST ENOUGH protein to maintain muscle, my strength stayed the same and i kept 99% of my mass. my legs even GREW

I haven't "rebounded" at all either. I'm still as cut as i was in my afters, but with the keto, as soon as carbs are incorperated back into the diet, i was soft and pudgy in a matter of days. and thats with a GRADUAL increase...

Carbs are not the enemy, at least not for me

I will be a Guinea pig for you all then

Take the Red pill or the Green pill, you take the Red pill you go deeper into the rabbit hole, take the green pill you wake up in 10th place

[speca1k]

Originally Posted by JDBascoJr

I love this thread! it gets me motivated every time... i actually had it as one of my home pages in firefox for a while.

just thought i'd post something real quick about progress. Not where I was planning on being. Had misconceptions about timing, and spent to much time gaining muscle instead of doing more cardio in the beginning. I've always been about the lifting, like most so it hurt me in the competition.

I won't be able to win, but I have a goal for my summer vacation in june to Myrtle Beach, still wanna have some sick abs! Therefore i am still posting pix. Also, to keep myself from failing this semester, i had to cut out the second daily workout to provide more study time.

It has been a rough trip, being in college is a little different than being out in the "real world." I may be bias, but it just began to feel like i had soo much **** going on! Firstly i put this competition before almost everything, including school... thats where i began to get into trouble lol! grades started slipping, which is when i had to cut out the 2nd workout. On top of that work was crazy busy after spring break, and I was working 20-30 hours a week on top of 2 workouts, and classes and projects. So, I had to plan out everything which was quite difficult at times. And i'm sure everyone can relate to the reduced amount of partying/drinking and late nights... the stuff college is known for lol

A rough trip indeed...but sooo worth it! I just can't wait for summer to get here, and i'm on the beach showing off some well earned abs. Dunno what i'm going to look like in the next 2 weeks, but i'll post the pix after the 1st (last day of finals!)

congrats to everyone, this year was sic for pix... like i said very motivating, and I'll be ready for next year when i'll finally be out of school!!

I know the feeling of being busy! In a given day I:

4:30 AM - Wakeup and cardio for 45 minutes
5:15-6 - Get ready and leave for work
6-7:15 - Commute to work / listen to audio tapes
7:15-4:30 - Work
4:45-6 - Commute home / listen to audio tapes
6-7:30 - 10 min Cardio / 70 min Lift / 15 min Tan
7:30-8 - Clean up / go home
8-10 - Homework (I'm in school for my MBA & Mechanical Engineering Masters)
Girlfriend Time
10ish - Bed!

everyday, hardcore in everything i do!

[willymongo]

Originally Posted by thepackleader

I'm just upset that I can't wear any makeup....



I was soooo looking forward to doing my final pics as a pretty pretty princess!

I guess we should put away our tierra's (sp) and glass slippers.

[AniMaLizTik]

good info

from the "cut diet" book available for free in the DERICK CHARBIOLS prep section:

As we have mentioned, optimal dieting is about calories in versus calories out
with macronutrient manipulation as well as a major focus on insulin control through diet.
Initial caloric intake when starting the Cut Diet all depends on where the individual starts.
Ideally, we want to start the calories on the highest side to maintain current ?scale
weight? with the goal in mind to preserve/build lean body mass (LBM) and burn fat.


However, a person that starts a Cut Diet at higher body fat percentage (>15%) will have
lower calories than what our formula would estimate based on activity to maintain
(starting body fat < 15%) current weight. The idea is to provide the calories but
manipulate the macronutrients (carbohydrates, fat and protein) to keep the current ?scale
weight? yet reduce body fat.

As with all diets, you will encounter stick points. Stick
points are when you do not notice changes over a week?s time. Meaning that you do
not see the scale lowering (as previous weeks) and/or bodyfat percentage is not
lowering and/or definition is not appearing more noticeable. When these arise,
calories need to be reduced or low intensity cardio increased. We prefer starting with a
five to ten minute increase in cardio until 45 minutes is reached. That is the max time on
any cardio machine with your heart rate (HR) at 130-150 beats per minute (BPM).
Once the next stick point occurs, simply drop to the next calorie level. It is as
simple as that!

[IRONCOLE]

Originally Posted by AniMaLizTik

thay already did last year, i was just causing a rucos! protan is acceptable

Shewww.......Good cause I didnt want to be DQ'd for using a tanning product.

Thanks!