AMS looking for testers for new product - Page 2

boostthis89 · 03-03-2009, 07:33 AM

I ran a dienedrone log as well few months back..
IM curious how much stronger this delivery method really is?? i had to go up to 200mg of dienedrone daily before i started to notice what other people were noticing at 100mg daily...
im curious to see someone run this that has run your other Dienedrone and see how it works out for them and how it compares.
hopfuly Tastan or someone else is choosen that had previously ran a log for that reason

AbercrombieStud · 03-03-2009, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by boostthis89

I ran a dienedrone log as well few months back..
IM curious how much stronger this delivery method really is?? i had to go up to 200mg of dienedrone daily before i started to notice what other people were noticing at 100mg daily...
im curious to see someone run this that has run your other Dienedrone and see how it works out for them and how it compares.
hopfuly Tastan or someone else is choosen that had previously ran a log for that reason

Right on, I bet the compound effects others differently. Given your PH background and everything. I think if someone has fresh receptors (such as myself) it effects one at a lower dose.

boostthis89 · 03-03-2009, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by AbercrombieStud

Right on, I bet the compound effects others differently. Given your PH background and everything. I think if someone has fresh receptors (such as myself) it effects one at a lower dose.

i hadnt used anything hormonal in over 2 years prior to my run with it...
im alot more advanced in my training, bodyweight, etc.. than most of these guys running PH logs, i really believe most of them should not even be considering PH's...
I wont be using any for quite a while again either..

I really believe that people using these should be further along than 170-180lbs soaking wet like most ph users ive seen on here are..
You need some experience with hormonal supplementation and need diet and training on key, so you really know how your body works prior to using these to get maximal benefits

AbercrombieStud · 03-03-2009, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by boostthis89

i hadnt used anything hormonal in over 2 years prior to my run with it...
im alot more advanced in my training, bodyweight, etc.. than most of these guys running PH logs, i really believe most of them should not even be considering PH's...
I wont be using any for quite a while again either..

I really believe that people using these should be further along than 170-180lbs soaking wet like most ph users ive seen on here are..
You need some experience with hormonal supplementation and need diet and training on key, so you really know how your body works prior to using these to get maximal benefits

I agree a 100%, diet has a lot to do with it. I know a lot of people who lack in this area.

tastan · 03-04-2009, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by AbercrombieStud

I agree a 100%, diet has a lot to do with it. I know a lot of people who lack in this area.

yeah like one thing that a lot of people forget is that many prohormones absorb better with consumption of fat. So low fat diet and prohormones = low absorption.

This LiquiDrone would be easy to mix with some oils for better absorption since it's all liquid anyway.

AbercrombieStud · 03-04-2009, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by tastan

yeah like one thing that a lot of people forget is that many prohormones absorb better with consumption of fat. So low fat diet and prohormones = low absorption.

This LiquiDrone would be easy to mix with some oils for better absorption since it's all liquid anyway.

That was going to be my idea if I got picked. I wanted to make sure I was taking the dose with some sort of fat, as like you stated it absorbs better.

I wanted to actually take it with fish oil, or possibly some olive oil.

Right_Hook · 03-04-2009, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by boostthis89

I ran a dienedrone log as well few months back..
IM curious how much stronger this delivery method really is?? i had to go up to 200mg of dienedrone daily before i started to notice what other people were noticing at 100mg daily...
im curious to see someone run this that has run your other Dienedrone and see how it works out for them and how it compares.
hopfuly Tastan or someone else is choosen that had previously ran a log for that reason

We estimate Liquidrone to be 5-10 times strong when comparing doses. Also the benefit is that "UTT" under the tongue delivery allows plasma levels to be reached much fast (30-40 minutes).

Application period is ending soon!

AbercrombieStud · 03-04-2009, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Right_Hook

We estimate Liquidrone to be 5-10 times strong when comparing doses. Also the benefit is that "UTT" under the tongue delivery allows plasma levels to be reached much fast (30-40 minutes).

Application period is ending soon!

have you thought of suspending it in EFA's?

Right_Hook · 03-04-2009, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by AbercrombieStud

have you thought of suspending it in EFA's?

It's actually suspended in phospholipids which also increase absorption (lecithin). I will post up more info soon in regards to some other methods of absorption that are much better.

Right_Hook · 03-04-2009, 07:39 PM

In the mean time congratulations to the following posters (please PM me your addy's):

Tastan
Abercrombiestud
Wlknier

Looking forward to the logs guys!

Right_Hook · 03-04-2009, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Right_Hook

It's actually suspended in phospholipids which also increase absorption (lecithin). I will post up more info soon in regards to some other methods of absorption that are much better.

Read this thread guys:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post297417991

boostthis89 · 03-05-2009, 12:22 PM

Thanks for picking Tastan as a logger.. now we can see how both versions of Dienedrone compaire to eachother and get an accurate review on how much stronger this version actualy is..

pa mma · 03-05-2009, 12:26 PM

isn't Tastan still running the oral pill form??? if so isn't this a long time on cycle???

tastan · 03-05-2009, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by pa mma

isn't Tastan still running the oral pill form??? if so isn't this a long time on cycle???

yeah but they are giving me time to finish my cycle, so then I can get the best benefits from each, and be able to compare them better.

pa mma · 03-05-2009, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by tastan

yeah but they are giving me time to finish my cycle, so then I can get the best benefits from each, and be able to compare them better.

how long till you run the liquid???

tastan · 03-05-2009, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by pa mma

how long till you run the liquid???

a month. Plus it usually takes some time for AMS to ship out products.

Right_Hook · 03-05-2009, 05:02 PM

Yep we just got Liquidrone in yesterday and everyone at the office left for the Arnold early this morning. They will ship early next week though.

I'm looking forward to tastans comparison. I believe he will like Liquidrone more.

huddlestonalex · 03-05-2009, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by boostthis89

I ran a dienedrone log as well few months back..
IM curious how much stronger this delivery method really is?? i had to go up to 200mg of dienedrone daily before i started to notice what other people were noticing at 100mg daily...
im curious to see someone run this that has run your other Dienedrone and see how it works out for them and how it compares.
hopfuly Tastan or someone else is choosen that had previously ran a log for that reason

We are always having to take higher doses hahahaha

animal.inside · 03-09-2009, 05:14 PM

I am freaking stoked for this.

r1ppedup · 03-15-2009, 06:28 PM

id test but im only 19
but still wonderin when the release date could be

quigs · 03-15-2009, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDaddy33

Statistics: (age,weight,height,bf%) 35, 279, 6'2", right around 30%

Past Logs: No past logs

Past PH Experience:No past PH experience

Exercise Routine that you intend to use:Basic Split: Chest/tris, Back/bis, Shoulders/Abs, Legs, Arms, Cardio(long session), Also 15-20 min cardio 3 additional times per week

Diet: 3000-3500 cals, Mostly proteins and Healthy fats, Mod carbs from fruits and vegtables. I intend to log everything I eat as well

Able to supply before/after pictures:Yes

Why you would like to use the product: I have been interested in trying a PH, but quite honestly I have not been able to afford it. I also have been looking to do a company sponsered log as well. I am very interested in what effects this type of product would have on my body.

Current Supps Multi, Fish oil, creatine, whey, MT Halo, ZMA

Just saw your avitar? You from buffalo? Go sabres!

quigs · 03-15-2009, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boostthis89

I ran a dienedrone log as well few months back..
IM curious how much stronger this delivery method really is?? i had to go up to 200mg of dienedrone daily before i started to notice what other people were noticing at 100mg daily...
im curious to see someone run this that has run your other Dienedrone and see how it works out for them and how it compares.
hopfuly Tastan or someone else is choosen that had previously ran a log for that reason

You're a big dude, so yea you might need a higher dosage. You taking it with meals?

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Originally Posted by tastan

yeah like one thing that a lot of people forget is that many prohormones absorb better with consumption of fat. So low fat diet and prohormones = low absorption.

This LiquiDrone would be easy to mix with some oils for better absorption since it's all liquid anyway.

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Originally Posted by AbercrombieStud

That was going to be my idea if I got picked. I wanted to make sure I was taking the dose with some sort of fat, as like you stated it absorbs better.

I wanted to actually take it with fish oil, or possibly some olive oil.

I like your line of thinking, but I wouldn't go and mix this particular compound with oil. You see, the UTT product is in a liposomal suspension meant to increase the sublingual delivery. Adding more oil would simply dilute the active, making less available for sublingual delivery.

As I stated before, some of the compound will not be absorbed sublingually and will then be swallowed by the user. This is where added dietary fat may help. So a solution:

Eat a fat containing meal (olive oil, peanut butter, fish oil, etc), then take the liquidrone product sublingually as directed. Then you have both bases covered.

AbercrombieStud · 03-15-2009, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by quigs

You're a big dude, so yea you might need a higher dosage. You taking it with meals?

I like your line of thinking, but I wouldn't go and mix this particular compound with oil. You see, the UTT product is in a liposomal suspension meant to increase the sublingual delivery. Adding more oil would simply dilute the active, making less available for sublingual delivery.

As I stated before, some of the compound will not be absorbed sublingually and will then be swallowed by the user. This is where added dietary fat may help. So a solution:

Eat a fat containing meal (olive oil, peanut butter, fish oil, etc), then take the liquidrone product sublingually as directed. Then you have both bases covered.

Thanks for the clear up

Wasn't as familiar with the UTT method.

tastan · 03-19-2009, 01:31 PM

Just recieved my LiquiDrone. I am super excited and want to start using it, but I have to wait till I am done with PCT, so my system is back to normal. Thank you again

I'll keep you updated on when I'll start Liquidrone log.

JackedONE · 03-19-2009, 01:41 PM

Statistics: (31,225,5'9,bf?)
Past Logs:none yet I never get picked

Past PH Experience

-drol IDS mass tabs & sust. discontinued
Exercise Routine that you intend to use:strict got it down ( Im not telling everyone my secrets) cardio is 2 times a day for 30 min at least
Diet:strict got it down ( Im not telling everyone my secrets)
Able to supply before/after pictures:FOR sure
Why you would like to use the product: Looking to try a new PH

**factotum** · 03-19-2009, 07:57 PM

I'm glad no one bothers to read through threads to see that testers have already been selected.

AbercrombieStud · 03-19-2009, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by wanderlei

I'm glad no one bothers to read through threads to see that testers have already been selected.

LOL<, i thought the same thing.

tastan · 04-13-2009, 10:19 AM

Here is my log

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=115588071

vannatten32 · 04-13-2009, 11:59 AM

Statistics: (age,weight,height,bf%) 24 - 200lbs - 5'9 - roughly 7-8% ?
Past Logs: Haven't done one yet ... I'm new to bodyspace
Past PH Experience: d-drol
Exercise Routine that you intend to use:
Monday - chest + tri's
Tues - Back - bi's
Thurs - Legs
Fri - Shoulders
Cardio/Abs every other day
Diet: High Protein Moderate Carbs
Able to supply before/after pictures: Yes
Why you would like to use the product: I want to pack on some more lean mass and would like to try another PH to compare to d-drol (by 4everfit)