Best legal mood enhancer

[newequation]

Originally Posted by Junkie2

this...

PEA did absolutely nothing for me.

Dose it properly.

[DGreekStallion]

Originally Posted by newequation

Dose it properly.

How much did you take? I find it hard to believe you felt nothing from it.

[G.W. Hayduke]

Originally Posted by MegaPump

. A lot of E users are really effected and sensitive by anything slightly negative and have to walk away from it, while every one else is ok with it. Is that normal ?

"there's no free rides", "there's no free lunch" so to speak. Take these things with caution, and remember that every drug was once legal.

Who is to say what's normal, especially with something like that. To put it another way: is it normal that society at large can go around being completely insensitive to one another and be okay with it? Although I do understand what you're saying. E is a beast. And it is synthetic, which salvia is not. I'm also inclined to think that the research would've turned up something, anything by now in the way of deleterious effects caused by salvia. So far it hasn't.. which can't be said for E whose dangers are well known.

I agree with the caution you advise. It's always good to be cautious. But legality I think is a bad indicator of whether or not something is harmful. I know I don't need to point towards cigarettes and alcohol to make that point.

And if you're really concerned about dangerous drugs, take a look at the stats regarding OTC drug injuries and deaths.

[G.W. Hayduke]

Originally Posted by NO HYPE

Now you've peeked my interest. How many grams did you ingest? Grade/potency?

It was in brownie form that someone else cooked up, so no idea as to grade or dosage. I ate half the brownie though and proceeded to engage in what I can only describe as rapid time travel in both directions. I also happened to engage in some of the best sex I've ever had.

...but the experience overall was frightening. My heart rate was outta control, mouth dry, eyes and face burning. All the classic signs. However, after sleeping, I woke up the next day with a very pleasant creative high and was in the best of spirits.

[JAH703]

i got ergolean amp v2 for fat burning purposes but i found that it's a really great mood enhancer as well.

i also take 20mg of fluoxetine daily though...so dunno

[Junkie2]

Originally Posted by Squat2Grow

Sorry to hear that PEA did not work for you. Did you get dosing help from us?

Fortunately it is rare for PEA to not have an effect on people when taken correct for their individual body.

Originally Posted by newequation

Dose it properly.

i dosed it according to the directions on the bottle. all it did was give me massive stomach cramps

[MegaPump]

Originally Posted by DGreekStallion

Salvia is nothing to mess with, that's for sure.

Still interested in DMT though.

Id look right into DMT before doing it. I too was interested in it, I looked into it, than looked the other way. Id rather some weed.

Originally Posted by LCking187

sam-e = well worth the price. when i took it i was more talkative and alot nicer to people. has wayyy more benefits then side effects, i experience no side effects.

Side effects ? I didn't know there was any.

Originally Posted by newequation

Dose it properly.

I use to dose it like most, but I found it worked for me in smaller doses of even 250 mg. Even at a dose of 250mg, there's no evidence or background on it, apart from what you find on these boards. We are the guiney pigs of PEA.

Originally Posted by G.W. Hayduke

Who is to say what's normal, especially with something like that. To put it another way: is it normal that society at large can go around being completely insensitive to one another and be okay with it? Although I do understand what you're saying. E is a beast. And it is synthetic, which salvia is not. I'm also inclined to think that the research would've turned up something, anything by now in the way of deleterious effects caused by salvia. So far it hasn't.. which can't be said for E whose dangers are well known.

I agree with the caution you advise. It's always good to be cautious. But legality I think is a bad indicator of whether or not something is harmful. I know I don't need to point towards cigarettes and alcohol to make that point.

And if you're really concerned about dangerous drugs, take a look at the stats regarding OTC drug injuries and deaths.

I think thats an individual thing.

I cant see something with such a profound effect to be totally harmless on the mind in some way or another. Do we even know how it works, which part of the brain it works on. Are they investing huge amounts of money and time studying it. No offense intended, but I dont think thats something the Americans would bother to do. In Australia its illegal, deemed to have addiction potential.

LSD was legal for a long time before that got shut down, so where amphetamines. Cocaine was in CokaCola. Apparently a few of those cokes and an asprin use to get people very very high, and all the kids done that to party on back in those days. True story I was told by an old fellow I work with.

Originally Posted by JAH703

i got ergolean amp v2 for fat burning purposes but i found that it's a really great mood enhancer as well.

i also take 20mg of fluoxetine daily though...so dunno

AMP original is the same.

[TNote]

Originally Posted by NO HYPE

[Speaking for myself]I discovered just how short life is, and how much life should be appreciated prior to exiting it. In contrast however.... it was the absolute scariest few moments of my entire life thus far, and up until that point, I was afraid of nothing. Never again though.

This pretty much sums up my DMT experience as well.

edit - The only legal mood enhancers I've ever used that I would recommend would be the original biss shots for a euphoric feeling or clearshot for more of an energy approach.

[Bupolo]

I'm not sure it's really debatable. Most down moods are related to stress, stress about the future, stress about the present, or stress and bad memories about the past.

If you want something less, I'd say try to go to bed earlier, wake up earlier, work out in the morning, and stretch before your daily activities. Working out is a natural mood enhancer, it gives you a natural high. If you're already doing that, and still not getting what you want, there's something else in your life that is causing problems, so see above.

[G.W. Hayduke]

Originally Posted by MegaPump

I think thats an individual thing.

My point exactly. Which just goes to show that your opinion is equally inutile as the next guys.

I cant see something with such a profound effect to be totally harmless on the mind in some way or another. Do we even know how it works, which part of the brain it works on. Are they investing huge amounts of money and time studying it. No offense intended, but I dont think thats something the Americans would bother to do. In Australia its illegal, deemed to have addiction potential.

LSD was legal for a long time before that got shut down, so where amphetamines. Cocaine was in CokaCola. Apparently a few of those cokes and an asprin use to get people very very high, and all the kids done that to party on back in those days. True story I was told by an old fellow I work with.

Sounds like you're hung up on legality. So it's illegal in Australia? What does that mean? Drug law inconsistencies can be found all over. It means nothing. Most drugs get illegalized because some senator (or political equivalent) is up for re-election and he's trying to make it look like he's accomplished something. In that effort he goes for illegalizing something as it is typically the easiest thing to accomplish. Either that or special interests launch a campaign against a particular drug. That's how absinthe and marijuana initially became illegal. Other drugs were illegalized because they had spiritual importance to tribal members. Keep in mind, most drug laws were passed prior to the heavy accumulation of science we have on said drugs today. Drug laws are not to protect people, they're to protect governments and businesses. I think if you had a a better sense of the science done on these chemicals instead of the propaganda you'd be singing a different tune.

Here's something to help illustrate my point: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ependence).svg

Note how all the yellow (ie, safer) drugs are illegal while alcohol and tobacco ranked more more dangerous overall are widely available.

[TNote]

Originally Posted by G.W. Hayduke

Sounds like you're hung up on legality. So it's illegal in Australia? What does that mean? Drug law inconsistencies can be found all over. It means nothing. Most drugs get illegalized because some senator (or political equivalent) is up for re-election and he's trying to make it look like he's accomplished something. In that effort he goes for illegalizing something as it is typically the easiest thing to accomplish. Either that or special interests launch a campaign against a particular drug. That's how absinthe and marijuana initially became illegal. Other drugs were illegalized because they had spiritual importance to tribal members. Keep in mind, most drug laws were passed prior to the heavy accumulation of science we have on said drugs today. Drug laws are not to protect people, they're to protect governments and businesses. I think if you had a a better sense of the science done on these chemicals instead of the propaganda you'd be singing a different tune.

This is my favorite post I have ever read on bb.com. You win. And everything you said is true. Some people get stuck on the legallity and feel it's bad for you just because it's illegal. That's such a joke.

[Blackheart]

Originally Posted by AdrenalRush8o8

what are mood enhancers?? good mood all day? **** gimme some lol

^^ this x 21342352352525435

[MegaPump]

Originally Posted by G.W. Hayduke

My point exactly. Which just goes to show that your opinion is equally inutile as the next guys.


Sounds like you're hung up on legality. So it's illegal in Australia? What does that mean? Drug law inconsistencies can be found all over. It means nothing. Most drugs get illegalized because some senator (or political equivalent) is up for re-election and he's trying to make it look like he's accomplished something. In that effort he goes for illegalizing something as it is typically the easiest thing to accomplish. Either that or special interests launch a campaign against a particular drug. That's how absinthe and marijuana initially became illegal. Other drugs were illegalized because they had spiritual importance to tribal members. Keep in mind, most drug laws were passed prior to the heavy accumulation of science we have on said drugs today. Drug laws are not to protect people, they're to protect governments and businesses. I think if you had a a better sense of the science done on these chemicals instead of the propaganda you'd be singing a different tune.

Here's something to help illustrate my point: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ependence).svg

Note how all the yellow (ie, safer) drugs are illegal while alcohol and tobacco ranked more more dangerous overall are widely available.

Ok no worries buddy....

You seem very level headed. Did you write that on Salvia

[shanedidwhat]

Long thread. Anyone say Yohimbe HCL yet? Differently helps with energy and has an extra side benefit with the ladies. Good during a cut when ur energy is low.

[G.W. Hayduke]

Originally Posted by MegaPump

Ok no worries buddy....

You seem very level headed. Did you write that on Salvia

Hahaha... yeah, I got kinda on a rant I guess. I tend to do that.

[NO HYPE]

Originally Posted by G.W. Hayduke

Hahaha... yeah, I got kinda on a rant I guess. I tend to do that.

Must be the pancakes.

[newequation]

Originally Posted by MegaPump

Even at a dose of 250mg, there's no evidence or background on it, apart from what you find on these boards. We are the guiney pigs of PEA.

And the three thousand or so years of people eating chocolate and cacao.

[iron_on_my_mind]

And here I was mega-dosing the ECA stack for like 7 years on a regular basis . . .

I had absolutely no idea about PEA, although I took plenty of phenylalanine and Tyrosine back in the day (which look like predursors to it), combined with my ECA stack.

So can anyone recommend a good brand of PEA? Dosing? How does it compare to ephedrine?

I can't believe I missed this supp.

[bjc12]

I have seen a numver of user guide posts on ph/ds. Does anyone have a link to one on nootropics. the link below is an example of what i am looking for, with the exception that it is on ph/ds, where i am looking for a nootropic version.


http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=3296321

[DGreekStallion]

I'm hoping to try SamE next.

Heard it's great.

[bjc12]

I will give this another try today.

I have seen a number of user guide posts on ph/ds. Does anyone have a link to one on nootropics. the link below is an example of what i am looking for, with the exception that it is on ph/ds, where i am looking for a nootropic version.


http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=3296321

[bjc12]

Originally Posted by bjc12

I will give this another try today.

I have seen a number of user guide posts on ph/ds. Does anyone have a link to one on nootropics. the link below is an example of what i am looking for, with the exception that it is on ph/ds, where i am looking for a nootropic version.


http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=3296321

nevermind. found one this time, must have spelled something wrong last time

[mustangcobra]

This stuff has peaked my interest so here's a bump! BTW, I sent ya a PM CN.

[Mike83]

Originally Posted by DGreekStallion

I'm hoping to try SamE next.

Heard it's great.

I used this and noticed nothing on mood or anything. PEA had no effect on me besides headaches,gaba doesnt do much,picamilon has a nice subtle feeling to it that you cannot really notice til you stop taking it.

I have used kratom and didnt do anything good for me besides sweating and insomnia.

Phenibut is very good, but for me if i use it one night to sleep restfully, the next night or nights I have insomnia which really really sucks!

I recently have researched a benzo that isnt classified as a controlled substance in usa or uk but is suppose to be as strong as xanax.

[SkyLines]

I like Bacopa Monnieri (400 mg per day), Sceletium Tortuosum aka Kanna ( 50 - 100 mg per day) and, Gynostemma Pentaphyllum aka Jiaogulan ( 1 gram per day).

Aniracetam (700 mg per day) is by far the best, but my short term memory seems to disappear after using it for a week or so.

[WilyCoder]

Sam-e changed my life.

Unfortunately its impossible to find the 1,4-butanedisulfonate form of it anymore. The only sam-e to be found is the tosylate disulfonate. And that tosylate form gives me too many gastric side effects.

Back in the day when I was on Sam-e I shopped around for the best source of it. Since the chemical is very sensitive, it degrades fast in high temperatures (even in blister packs). You'd basically have to get some right off the boat lol.

So I did some research.

Betaine (TMG) causes elevated levels of Sam-e in humans. The body basically uses TMG to make Sam-e (simplification of the process).

I've been taking TMG for about a week now, and it feels EXACTLY like when i was taking Sam-e.

Makes me frickin wired, in a very very good way.

I go from being a slow, bored, ambitionless person to (in a matter of a few days) being hypomanic, can't sit still, wanting to fuk everything in sight.

Its not something where you take one pill and immediately feel effects. After a few days you just start feeling better, the mind runs faster, and it feels completely natural. Like your brain is simply more awake then before. And I never burn out on it. Its not like an amphetamine high. There is no crash. It doesn't feel like a drug AT ALL.

Finally, Sam-e is expensive. Betaine (TMG) is dirt fukin cheap

You'd think I was a spokesman for Sam-e and TMG but they are simply the only thing that has truly worked for me. And they worked so well its like I am a different person.

[more_knowledge]

phenadrine and benzanax (sp?) best i've tried recently.

[WyldByll]

When I'm on cycle I take 250mg of l-dopa to combate the out of gym lethargy and depression ph's can have. Works great. Very serious.

[Mike83]

Originally Posted by more_knowledge

phenadrine and benzanax (sp?) best i've tried recently.

Have you tried phenibut? If so how does the benzanax differ from it?

[snavemij]

So what brand betaine TMG do you use?

Originally Posted by WilyCoder

Sam-e changed my life.

I've been taking TMG for about a week now, and it feels EXACTLY like when i was taking Sam-e.

Makes me frickin wired, in a very very good way.

I go from being a slow, bored, ambitionless person to (in a matter of a few days) being hypomanic, can't sit still, wanting to fuk everything in sight.

Its not something where you take one pill and immediately feel effects. After a few days you just start feeling better, the mind runs faster, and it feels completely natural. Like your brain is simply more awake then before. And I never burn out on it. Its not like an amphetamine high. There is no crash. It doesn't feel like a drug AT ALL.

Finally, Sam-e is expensive. Betaine (TMG) is dirt fukin cheap

You'd think I was a spokesman for Sam-e and TMG but they are simply the only thing that has truly worked for me. And they worked so well its like I am a different person.