Sex, Masturbation and Testosterone Levels Reloaded Pt. 2 - Page 2

stathis723 · 04-05-2009, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DatPhantom

An excellent thread, GOTSPEED.
I had wondered about the effects of masturbation, before.
I'm going to try to go a week without it, starting today, and see how it goes.

Thanks for the info!

and anyways even if id make better gains going a month off ill never decide to cut off the sex... For god sake

Diplomat84 · 04-05-2009, 10:21 AM

Its a known tactic for Boxers to abstain from masturbation/sex before fights.

Ive tried this before, although its very hard to do

I was putting the weight up better than I have the previous session.

MikeCellucor · 04-05-2009, 06:22 PM

Im sorry but if you fap it too much or even have too much sex it def. takes away a certain edge. Try going out to a bar after getting laid. Your game is down a notch, lol.

If you are going on a 2 week or even 2 month lack of sex...you are hungry, and for sure going to send off different vibes.

I personally believe you can have more sex without consesquence to your hormones than masturbating. I believe in the chemical reactions that happen during sex, and that it changes things.

adrenergic · 04-05-2009, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeCellucor

Im sorry but if you fap it too much or even have too much sex it def. takes away a certain edge. Try going out to a bar after getting laid. Your game is down a notch, lol.

If you are going on a 2 week or even 2 month lack of sex...you are hungry, and for sure going to send off different vibes.

I personally believe you can have more sex without consesquence to your hormones than masturbating. I believe in the chemical reactions that happen during sex, and that it changes things.

Prolactin has been shown to increase 400% more after sex compared with masturbation actually.

Autobody · 04-05-2009, 06:48 PM

Why was op attacked? This is good info he didn't make a plea for everyone to stop having sex. The study did not conclude sex/masturbating was overly harmful and that not orgasming will increase your squat by 100lbs...

The effects orgasm has on physical performance are worthwhile to know. In the end im sure a healthy balance away from both extremes is perfect for lifestyle/stress/peak performance.

GOTSPEED · 04-05-2009, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by adrenergic

Prolactin has been shown to increase 400% more after sex compared with masturbation actually.

Ejaculation is what triggers the prolactin release, not only that you are losing precious zinc in the ejaculate, zinc is the male mineral without it you wouldn't even have a penis. I think zinc is very important as far as testosterone production, cell multiplication and growing muscles. And in today's mineral depleted state of soil, a lot of guys are probably zinc depleted and the frequent ejaculations are depleting them even more.

Sex without ejaculation most likely increases testosterone levels, research non ejaculatory orgasms or dry orgasms. You will feel great and energized afterwards instead of feeling tired and unmotivated.

07hudson · 04-05-2009, 07:06 PM

I do recall in highschool better performance when I ...uh *cough* hadn't fapped for a while. I'm talking about performance in athletics; mainly football.

LB 4 LB · 04-05-2009, 07:13 PM

Spoken like a true man rite on brotha!

ChrisV92 · 04-05-2009, 07:22 PM

arghh i am now gonna go a week without.

BigMagno · 04-05-2009, 07:33 PM

Time to get bigger, no more killing cats!

STAY BACk

Wet Dreams!

GOTSPEED · 04-08-2009, 05:57 PM

Are you guys staying strong? Or have you given to the desire?

BodyMan123 · 04-08-2009, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by GOTSPEED

Are you guys staying strong? Or have you given to the desire?

I'm over +1 week right now. Im on my way to 5+months!

Catchol · 04-08-2009, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GOTSPEED

Are you guys staying strong? Or have you given to the desire?

I have a series of fights coming up (I joined a boxing gym in January), cycling season is starting, I'm not going to do anything at all this summer that is work-related, I'm going to spend most of my savings and retirement money (the dollar will be worthless soon anyway, might as well enjoy my money!), and I'm trying to smash all previous strength records before August.

So, I'll give you one guess how I'm keeping it...

1TAL1ANSTALL1ON · 04-09-2009, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BigNorwegian

So what you're saying is I need to stop having sex in order to get big....

HA! I laugh at such nonsense.

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Originally Posted by gottalift78

thats just to much to read. i beat off and have a good amount of sex and I still have some size.

LOL agreed to both

BodyMan123 · 04-09-2009, 07:55 PM

People, they arent saying your going to lose gains and not be able to get big if you masterbate..

Xeric · 04-09-2009, 09:17 PM

lmao, http://www.actionlove.com/extra/marijuana.htm . That whole ****ing site is crazy...and anything referencing that site is obviously just as deceitful

muruku · 04-10-2009, 05:30 AM

Christ, why do people like to complicate things.
Just wank/fcuk when you feel like it. Simple enough.
Anyone who passes up sex just to look good is an idiot.

Catchol · 04-10-2009, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by muruku

Anyone who passes up sex just to look good is an idiot.

So you'd prefer to bang an ugly-fat girl rather than have her buy you a new wardrobe?

CoQ10 · 04-10-2009, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Diplomat84

Its a known tactic for Boxers to abstain from masturbation/sex before fights.

They tested this - and debunked it - on "Sport Science" (I think). They had a professional boxer abstain from sex and then administered a variety of muscular strength and power tests. A few days or a week later, they re-administered the same tests the day after he had sex. He actually scored better post-sex than pre-sex.

-C10

rx8burner715 · 04-10-2009, 10:46 AM

If you don't flap for a few days, trust me you will see a huge difference. When I used too, I never caught the attention of ANY girls. Rock hard body, I was strong and still didn't get no where.

So I stopped fapping about a year ago, and MAN, you notice sooooo much more ish. It's as if the women FINALLY catch the vibes from my body when i'm checking them out. I've actually tested this on the same girl, day after fapping she showed no interest.

A month or so passed, didn't speak and what not, didn't fap for that month, and she was all over me at a party because I noticed I was more calm, cool and collective. You notice TWICE as much with out fapping, and it can't be just me. Hope this helps someone.

Catchol · 04-10-2009, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by CoQ10

They tested this - and debunked it - on "Sport Science" (I think). They had a professional boxer abstain from sex and then administered a variety of muscular strength and power tests. A few days or a week later, they re-administered the same tests the day after he had sex. He actually scored better post-sex than pre-sex.

-C10

The findings of this "experiment" are not statistically valid. The results of single-subject experiments worthless for extrapolation to populations.

07hudson · 04-10-2009, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by muruku

Christ, why do people like to complicate things.
Just wank/fcuk when you feel like it. Simple enough.
Anyone who passes up sex just to look good is an idiot.

Kinda defeats the purpose of looking good huh? Lol

bjjbadboy · 04-10-2009, 11:22 AM

brb gotta go fap for the second time today.........and i got laid last night....and im stronger then ever

i do not get the sex or the fap a few days before a torney or fight mostly cause to sucked out.... but have and it never affected my performance

Ratboi102 · 04-11-2009, 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by BodyMan123

People, they arent saying your going to lose gains and not be able to get big if you masterbate..

People, listen to me; i'm 18 years old, i know a thing or two about jerking off. And i've done it all. I've jerked off 10 minutes before a workout, i've jerked off 10 minutes after a workout, i've jerked off the morning of a workout (twice the other morning pre-workout actually), not at all before or after a workout, not to mention i've jerked off every single day this week (twice on tuesday) for the past 6 days, and i'm doing just fine. Energy is good, workouts have been good, everything's going just fine. If anything, being aroused pre-workout open up the blood vessels and allows more sh!t to happen during the workout. Just because you lose sperm, doesn't mean you're losing testosterone. The old gym coach cliche of not jerking off before games is stupid. If you're jerking off, endorphins get released and you're happy. If you're happy, your energy will be greater. If you're energy's higher, your workout will be better. It's common sense.

Autobody · 04-11-2009, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by CoQ10

They tested this - and debunked it - on "Sport Science" (I think). They had a professional boxer abstain from sex and then administered a variety of muscular strength and power tests. A few days or a week later, they re-administered the same tests the day after he had sex. He actually scored better post-sex than pre-sex.

-C10

Length of abstinence can be a factor.

Masturbating/having sex every day or every other day, then stopping one day before to test results is probably not going to yield anything significant.

Most of the studies on abstaining from sex before physical events revolves around fatigue and not the effects of prolactin levels, hormone levels, cognitive/awareness changes. I would be interested in a prolonged study which incorporated resistance training and overall changes to the body over a course of 1 week and 1 month.

OUT before "Beef pullers" who squirt their future sons on the shower wall attack~

Autobody · 04-11-2009, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Ratboi102

People, listen to me; i'm 18 years old, i know a thing or two about jerking off. And i've done it all. I've jerked off 10 minutes before a workout, i've jerked off 10 minutes after a workout, i've jerked off the morning of a workout (twice the other morning pre-workout actually), not at all before or after a workout, not to mention i've jerked off every single day this week (twice on tuesday) for the past 6 days, and i'm doing just fine. Energy is good, workouts have been good, everything's going just fine. If anything, being aroused pre-workout open up the blood vessels and allows more sh!t to happen during the workout. Just because you lose sperm, doesn't mean you're losing testosterone. The old gym coach cliche of not jerking off before games is stupid. If you're jerking off, endorphins get released and you're happy. If you're happy, your energy will be greater. If you're energy's higher, your workout will be better. It's common sense.

UHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhHHhHhhh......

Joker16 · 04-11-2009, 10:21 AM

This is true ratboi, but like any other type of "high" you come down from it. The pre-ejaculatory sense of mind and post-ejaculatory sense of mind. Many people have different thoughts on things before and after. But once you come down from the high of the endorphins its just like any other drug. Like after a good workout you feel good but then become sluggish and tired.

07hudson · 04-11-2009, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Ratboi102

People, listen to me; i'm 18 years old, i know a thing or two about jerking off. And i've done it all. I've jerked off 10 minutes before a workout, i've jerked off 10 minutes after a workout, i've jerked off the morning of a workout (twice the other morning pre-workout actually), not at all before or after a workout, not to mention i've jerked off every single day this week (twice on tuesday) for the past 6 days, and i'm doing just fine. Energy is good, workouts have been good, everything's going just fine. If anything, being aroused pre-workout open up the blood vessels and allows more sh!t to happen during the workout. Just because you lose sperm, doesn't mean you're losing testosterone. The old gym coach cliche of not jerking off before games is stupid. If you're jerking off, endorphins get released and you're happy. If you're happy, your energy will be greater. If you're energy's higher, your workout will be better. It's common sense.

Boundries...???? Lol, n that's a lot of fapping

BrettHardon · 04-11-2009, 11:09 AM

Yea, I always wondered this. I think I read in a few places that you lose zinc but thats where they get the ZMA performance results. ZMA supposedly increases testosterone levels but probably only if you are deficient in Zinc or Magnesium. So if you get off alot then take ZMA. You can buy zinc from walmart w/magnesium for like 4 bucks for a bottle. I take it because I have sex alot so i figured I could use it.

adrenergic · 04-11-2009, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Catchol

I have a series of fights coming up (I joined a boxing gym in January), cycling season is starting, I'm not going to do anything at all this summer that is work-related, I'm going to spend most of my savings and retirement money (the dollar will be worthless soon anyway, might as well enjoy my money!), and I'm trying to smash all previous strength records before August.

So, I'll give you one guess how I'm keeping it...

I don't understand..hookers? Deca? wut?