Sweet vs. Regular Potatoes

[COZ999]

AGREED. I looked the same depleted as carbed up. hard as nails. Myth Busted. Water even stayed pretty high. If you diet right the whole time, no need to peak.

[AniMaLizTik]

Originally Posted by COZ999

AGREED. I looked the same depleted as carbed up. hard as nails. Myth Busted. Water even stayed pretty high. If you diet right the whole time, no need to peak.

im cycling carbs, and I can definatley tell a difference between being depleted and loaded

[AniMaLizTik]

Originally Posted by TexFlex

Your absolutely wrong. ...

well how bout that lol. so you are saying donuts digest at the same pace as brown rice if mixed with fat and protein? double lol...unless i misunderstood

[TexFlex]

Originally Posted by AniMaLizTik

well how bout that lol. so you are saying donuts digest at the same pace as brown rice if mixed with fat and protein? double lol...unless i misunderstood

I think you're taking things a bit out of context here. If you combine fat and protein to a carbohydrate it does slow the gastric emptying and does lower the GI of food. Hence the reason most people try to keep fat pre and post workout to a minimum.

Do a little search on Pubmed. Plenty of studies to validate my post.

[imccarthy]

Originally Posted by AniMaLizTik

well how bout that lol. so you are saying donuts digest at the same pace as brown rice if mixed with fat and protein? double lol...unless i misunderstood

Assuming the donuts and the brown rice meal have the exact same macronutrient and fiber content, they will be digested at very similar if not identical rates.

[josephinedalton]

Originally Posted by TexFlex

GI of a carb doesn't matter. That GI crap is just that "CRAP". There are so many flaws with GI. Let me list a few for you.

-They only measure in 50g or 100g boluses
-Done in a fasted state
-They don't take into account the person's bodytype
-The carb isn't combined with a fat or protein source
-They don't take into account satiety

If you knew anything about GI you would know that you can lower the GI of food by: boiling, freezing and toasting.

Please tell me what your "super compensation" window is? Must be some Flex magazine stuff. If you've been dieting for 16-20 weeks like most natural bodybuilders, there is not a need to completely deplete, 16-20 weeks of dieting will probably do that anyway. And for natural athletes there isn't a need to carb load for 3 days either. More Flex magazine stuff I suppose..

No need to get unwound over it all buddy. We are all here to help each other.

I agree with you on the testing that have been done in the past in the determining of insulin response to certain carbs. Many factors including that you have mentioned, were not taken into consideration. A new GI list was formulated that did take some more factors into consideration, but is much hard to explain. While still imperfect, but better than the original. I think it's officially called The Revised International Table of Glycemic Index and Glycemic Load (2002)

Unfortunately, all this GI stuff was determined for the sake of Diabetics, particularly type 1, who have to deal with insulin injections & medication. Now I am no doctor (just a hypoglycemic that has done her homework) but we active folks who don't have problems with our Isles of Langerhans do need to stress out if our BGL rise above a certain marker, unless you are just one of those unfortunate kinds who sees a baked potato and the insulin goes through the roof (but hey, that insulin helps in hypertrophy). I really do beleive it's when you get to that point where your body is fighting you for that last 2 or 3 lbs of fat, does it really get important which column of the glycemic index you choose your carbs from. I mean... bodybuilders are a unique breed or genetic freaks; they are able to manipulate bodyfat levels where average joes cannot, even following the same diets, workout programs and techniques. But it is also the bodybuilders who got this down to a science....hm, that must mean they know something doctors don't.


My advice to everyone (as long as you're not the type that smells food and gets fat) EAT YOUR FREAKIN POTATOES, unless you're 4 weeks out from competition. And let me tell you, se amo mis papas !

And to the fellow who can't stand sweet potatoes....I pity you my son, cos I got a mean azz candied yam recipe that has no sugar and you'd wanna marry me after eating.


CHEERS MY FIT BUDDIES

[kennethbanks]

Originally Posted by josephinedalton

And to the fellow who can't stand sweet potatoes....I pity you my son, cos I got a mean azz candied yam recipe that has no sugar and you'd wanna marry me after eating.

My name is Ken. I'm a Pisces, and I enjoy baseball games, French films, and long walks on the beach ...

Actually, I accidentally discovered that I love raw sweet potatoes. I haven't cooked one since, but have enjoyed several of them sliced up, straight out of the fridge! It's made contest dieting a lot more tolerable.

-Ken

[TexFlex]

Originally Posted by josephinedalton

No need to get unwound over it all buddy. We are all here to help each other.

CHEERS MY FIT BUDDIES

Not getting unwound. Too much bro-science on this board. Just stating the facts that's all. Chill out..

[BuckSpin]

Just a lil' FYI:

With all the discussion I was surprised to not see that (unless I missed it) sweet potatoes are (per nutriondata.com) the highest rated natural/non-processed source of maltose, which I believe is generally regarded as a good PWO carb in that it does not require liver absorption to be processed into glucose but is rather absorbed via the stomach/intestine & therefore releases quicker into the blood stream:

http://www.nutritiondata.com/foods-0...0000000-w.html

As far as how....I drink em!

http://blog.bodybuilding.com/BuckSpi...hie-pwo-shake/

[at0m1k]

Originally Posted by TexFlex

GI of a carb doesn't matter. That GI crap is just that "CRAP". There are so many flaws with GI. Let me list a few for you.

-They only measure in 50g or 100g boluses
-Done in a fasted state
-They don't take into account the person's bodytype
-The carb isn't combined with a fat or protein source
-They don't take into account satiety

If you knew anything about GI you would know that you can lower the GI of food by: boiling, freezing and toasting.

Please tell me what your "super compensation" window is? Must be some Flex magazine stuff. If you've been dieting for 16-20 weeks like most natural bodybuilders, there is not a need to completely deplete, 16-20 weeks of dieting will probably do that anyway. And for natural athletes there isn't a need to carb load for 3 days either. More Flex magazine stuff I suppose..

Flex magazine... don't read it. I'd much rather read books from respected authors such as Fats that Kill Fats that Heal from Udo himself. However thats aside from the discussion.

You guys are so unbelievably focused on that GI... I only said that so someone could choose whether they want to load with a starch or something like a waxy maize like vitargo and in my opinion load much faster and come out fuller. I've never been constipated using Vitargo or Karbolyn.

As far as you "natural" guys making cracks about the rest of bodybuilding... I can't wait until they can test for T3, Insulin, various research peptides, and growth effectively. Would take a huge toll on the whole natural kick.

I do understand that the carbs GI can be lowered through cooking and also by mixing it with another carb. What made you think I don't?

However, I'll say that yeah it was screwed up for me to even say anything about the guys pics. I will tell you that the response was from me being a little ticked from that guy saying that what I said was NONSENSE, when I was simply offering an opinion... read his post. I get so sick of people who are about as close minded as a Nazi when it comes to bodybuilding. Or any fitness matter for that fact. Once people like him learned one method they think it's the golden rule and they have to search no further...

Come on there bro... you have a BS... you know that 300 years ago Copernicus was lashed out at for thinking that the Earth rotated around the sun. A little math and questioning established thinking is what got his theory to become the word today. Just a little simile here imo.

The rest of you reading this... take from it what you want it's all trial and error. Our bodies are all chemistry and what works for one could be the downfall for another. Bottom line.