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Old 04-03-2009, 08:24 AM   #1381
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How old I must be to use supplements ?
i'm no doctor, and i tried to find info on using arginine based products at a young age. couldn't find anything. I do know though, that if you want to start on a beta alanine supplement, it's completely safe for teens. one of the reasons being, is that you can get a normal dose of beta alanine from eating 4 pounds of chicken a day. nobody wants to do that, so they would rather just take a supp. hope this helps
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Old 04-03-2009, 11:45 AM   #1382
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Old 04-03-2009, 12:56 PM   #1383
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Muscle Pharm Assault?

Has anyone tried MusclePharm's Assault pre workout?
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Old 04-03-2009, 03:08 PM   #1384
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Too many good products

These days the market is saturated with preworkout pump amplifying and energy supplements. I've tried a variety with good results from each, keep in mind each has its own formula which benefits differently from one another, and in my experience each person's results will vary. Here's my take:

No Shotgun: 8/10, no crash and easy on my stomach, good blend of ingredients.

Full Blown Extreme: 7/10, this stuff was too powerful for me, it amp'd me up too high. This is hard core with lots of caffeine.

NO Xplode: 8.5/10, very even and consistent, good pump. This one is always a repeat purchase.

Fast Twitch: 9/10, this is one of my favorites, it provides an endo-thermogenic effect while amplifying nitric oxide levels. Good Stuff, my mainstay....

Superpump 250: 8.5/10 great stuff, follow-up with postworkout Sizeon for maximum results.

Gakic: 7/10, the arginine and xanthinol nicotinate (caffeine) will get you going, you will feel stronger and less fatigued.

I would like to try White Flood, based upon your reviews, it will be my next purchase. Let me know what you think, Joe650
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Ive bin Using isatori morph been havin awsome results with it but only been taken on training days just for that energy boost.it says on the bottle to take every day but i cant figer out why you would want to do that im just new to the game so could someone explain 2 me the upside of taking it every day instead of just pre workout because with my weights improving so much and a good diet im geting the results off just taken it one training days im thinkin why take it every other day?(saves money 2)
someone prove me wrong without biting my head off lol


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Old 04-03-2009, 05:33 PM   #1386
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i am currently taking sp250, and it is horrible. there are no pumps at all and i do not see a difference in weight. i took 2 scoops and it seemed like it helped a little more than 1 scoop..

how is nano vapor? anyone every try that?
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nalder- I'll chime in here about the Armageddon. I bought a clearance container from a reputable supplement chain (they were not going to be carrying it anymore) and I will tell you the effects were intense. Probably the best on the pre-workout supps I've tried. You're right, the taste was borderline nasty, I had the orange flavor. BUT, when I tried ordering some online, they had changed the color of the powder and I'm assuming the formula too, because the second batch didn't do a damn thing except taste bad.

I didn't know how much I missed my Myogenix Hypershock though until I went off it for several weeks...now that I've weened myself off of it, I seem to be doing pretty good intensity-wise just using some caffeine and some fruit before my workouts. I do miss how the Hypershock kinda gave me that "Superman" feeling all day long though...
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Old 04-03-2009, 07:36 PM   #1388
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nalder- I'll chime in here about the Armageddon. I bought a clearance container from a reputable supplement chain (they were not going to be carrying it anymore) and I will tell you the effects were intense. Probably the best on the pre-workout supps I've tried. You're right, the taste was borderline nasty, I had the orange flavor. BUT, when I tried ordering some online, they had changed the color of the powder and I'm assuming the formula too, because the second batch didn't do a damn thing except taste bad.

I didn't know how much I missed my Myogenix Hypershock though until I went off it for several weeks...now that I've weened myself off of it, I seem to be doing pretty good intensity-wise just using some caffeine and some fruit before my workouts. I do miss how the Hypershock kinda gave me that "Superman" feeling all day long though...
Did you go down from 2 scoops from the old stuff to just one with the new stuff or something? that's wierd that you got less of a reaction from the new stuff. it's supposed to be in a black bottle, is that the stuff you used? oh, and i called about the free tub, he said he has to talk to his boss about getting it for me. i'm guessing he's going to come back and say that his boss said no. i'm also gonna try two scoops of the nasty stuff tomorrow. if i can get it down and not puke it all up.
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Old 04-04-2009, 12:59 AM   #1389
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i am not a fan of vapor or superpump i did not like them, they made me sick to my stomach. plus nano has yohimbe which i do not trust

i like white flood and no xplode

but white flood is def the best. great pump and mental buzz that lasts
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Old 04-04-2009, 09:34 AM   #1390
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I didn't know how much I missed my Myogenix Hypershock though until I went off it for several weeks...now that I've weened myself off of it, I seem to be doing pretty good intensity-wise just using some caffeine and some fruit before my workouts. I do miss how the Hypershock kinda gave me that "Superman" feeling all day long though...
This is AWESOME to hear! I am glad you are lovin' it

The fruit flavor is my favorite for sure. Berry comes in a close 2nd
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MyoGenix Hyper SHock - Gave me the craziest pumps I've ever had. So bad that it would hurt. Best Energy and focus NO I've ever tried. The 8-hour sustained release NO was dope, but I could not sleep at all with this product ever. Also it gave me the worst acne ever. I was completely clear before this product and it made me break out with the vengeance. Skin became extremely oily from this product. If you're not acne prone and you workout in the am/ early pm. This product is the best hands down.
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Old 04-04-2009, 11:40 AM   #1392
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Old 04-04-2009, 11:53 AM   #1393
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I have to go with everyone else Ive used NO Xplode- Super Pump 250- And White Flood and White Flood is my favorite. Though i really felt i might explode after doin some DL's my lower back was tryin to rip out and smack the guy doin curls on a Smith next to me
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Old 04-04-2009, 11:58 AM   #1394
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How old I must be to use supplements ?
Stick with Protein and Creatine maybe a good weight gainer such as MHP Up Your Mass and yes beta alanine would be good for you. Look for a creatine that has Beta Alanine added. Other than that an Amino Acid supp would be all you need. Dont go messin with Test boosters and all that.
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Old 04-04-2009, 01:36 PM   #1395
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I have to go with everyone else Ive used NO Xplode- Super Pump 250- And White Flood and White Flood is my favorite. Though i really felt i might explode after doin some DL's my lower back was tryin to rip out and smack the guy doin curls on a Smith next to me
have you or anyone else tried armageddon yet? supposedly you don't have to cycle it, but we'll see. i effed up this morning. took two scoops at 5, and at 5:30 was leavin for the gym and realized they didn't open until 8!! so i hurried and called lifetime fitness half hour away, got them to let me in for free just once, but it took me another half hour to get there. i was buggin out yo! shakin in the car, part in due to the cold weather, but still. by the time i got to the gym it's peak had worn off. pissed the hell outa me. might try it again monday or tuesday, when i can actually get to the gym on time and use us it. although, the 360 mg of caffeine with two scoops is pretty intense, and i've been peein all day. not to mention mad squirts. outed like at least a cups worth in half a second. HAHA overshare!!

oh, and just so everyone knows, only thing the squirts come from is a large caffeine intake. some NO products have more in them than others, which is why some give you the squirts and some don't. caffeine is a natural diahretic, or however you spell that word :P

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Old 04-04-2009, 09:35 PM   #1396
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AST's Anabolic Rush still worked the best for me as far as strength, endurance, and nitric oxide production goes.
STR: 9/10
NO: 9/10
STA:10/10

Im just about finished with CL's White Flood and PW pre-workout stack, it worked more like a thermogenic for me, no pumps, but hey... it got the job done I suppose... or at least the food did throughout the week.
STR: 8/10
NO: 7.5/10
STA: 8/10

I've also tried SP250 and and Super Charge, both of which did nothing for me.
STR/NO/STA: Well, lets not go there.... considering they did nothing.

Recently tried a couple samples of Universal's ST, tastes amazing, EXTREMELY easy on the stomach, but did not feel much strength, mental, stamina, nor nitric oxide.
STR: 7/10
NO: 6/10
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Going to try USP's Jacked before I go back onto Anabolic Rush, and post back on my reviews on that product.
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Old 04-04-2009, 09:56 PM   #1397
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Old 04-05-2009, 12:49 AM   #1398
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I haven't really tried much but the best that i have tried was a sample of myoshock and I felt energized and could do more reps
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Ive bin Using isatori morph been havin awsome results with it but only been taken on training days just for that energy boost.it says on the bottle to take every day but i cant figer out why you would want to do that im just new to the game so could someone explain 2 me the upside of taking it every day instead of just pre workout because with my weights improving so much and a good diet im geting the results off just taken it one training days im thinkin why take it every other day?(saves money 2)
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Old 04-05-2009, 09:47 PM   #1400
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I'm new here and wanted to give my $.02. I've tried No xplod, superpump, white flood, and arnge crush. The best energy I got from those was the Arnge Crush, but you cannot find that anywhere. The best pumps came from SP250, but it tore my stomach up. My favorite overall would have to be the White Flood just cause it is pretty consistent and have great stamina during my workouts.
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4 Nitro Tropic is awesome and on sale. I know Im biased but Ive tried a lot of NOs and within a half a tub (and sometimes one and a half for the better ones) I have such a high tolerance that Its like drinking a cup of coffee pre workout- no pump, no vasodialation, and a little energy spike that crashes two minutes after taking the product.

Im my third tub of 4 Nitro and am still having awesome results. Killer pumps, killer workouts, crazy vasodialation and amazing energy. Give it a shot, its on 3 for the price of 2 right now.
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White Flood. Gives me great focus and strength not to mention you get tons of servings per container.
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i am currently taking sp250, and it is horrible. there are no pumps at all and i do not see a difference in weight. i took 2 scoops and it seemed like it helped a little more than 1 scoop..

how is nano vapor? anyone every try that?
I agree i took sp250 had no pumps, focus but had a little bit of energy. I've also tried nanovapor got the same nothing results. I love white flood, no shotgun and no explode was ok.
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I would like to try White Flood, based upon your reviews, it will be my next purchase. Let me know what you think, Joe650
you will love it, keep us posted when you get a chance to give it a try
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i am not a fan of vapor or superpump i did not like them, they made me sick to my stomach. plus nano has yohimbe which i do not trust

i like white flood and no xplode

but white flood is def the best. great pump and mental buzz that lasts
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I have to go with everyone else Ive used NO Xplode- Super Pump 250- And White Flood and White Flood is my favorite. Though i really felt i might explode after doin some DL's my lower back was tryin to rip out and smack the guy doin curls on a Smith next to me
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best ive tried has been white flood
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I'm new here and wanted to give my $.02. I've tried No xplod, superpump, white flood, and arnge crush. The best energy I got from those was the Arnge Crush, but you cannot find that anywhere. The best pumps came from SP250, but it tore my stomach up. My favorite overall would have to be the White Flood just cause it is pretty consistent and have great stamina during my workouts.
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White Flood. Gives me great focus and strength not to mention you get tons of servings per container.
wow, glad to hear it guys, thanks for voting white flood #1
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I have tried alot of supplements, the preworkout products I have tried are no-xplode, shock therapy, nano vapor, and whiteflood and If I had to rate them overall it would go

1 whiteflood
2 shocktherapy
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looking to try some white flood, but do you guys find it hard not to take these supplements after you've tried them? hard to cycle off them? is it like **** i need to buy that stuff again?
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I look at them as improving every workout, and at the end of the year ( so to speak) I will have gained more strength and or muscle than without them.

I think the hardest part to cycle off of is the pre-workouts that are higher in stims. I usually only use them on workout days to combat this, but I do tend to take in caffiene from multiple placs anyway. From Dark Chocalate to coffee to weightloss/enery supps.

As long as I stay loaded on creatine I have never really lost any gains, and or dropped in strength, but I have been using Kre-alkalyn exclusively for a year now. CEE for 3 years prior to that, and then 7 years of Monohydrate use.
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no xplode is so far my favorite. nano vapor also worked well but taste horrible. a friend is trying to get me to try no plasmacore. anybody had any luck with this.
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what would you guys recomend for a person who is very caffiene sensitive...haha if i drink a soda i have problems lol ...but not any problems with other supps... i really would like to find a pre workout supp that is caffiene free!!
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