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Determined30 · 03-24-2009, 06:03 AM

Katrina - What is CLA?

Ok, I will stick with it! I still feel good, just get discouraged with the scale sometimes! I know I shouldn't base everything on that though!

I will increase my water and fiber - hopefully that helps!

Thanks everyone! I am going to stay motivated :-)

GratefulJoseph · 03-24-2009, 10:31 PM

thanks respawn. i think you are right man...that is a bunch of carbs in the tofu. i will probably stick to meat for now unless i find another substitute that has less carbs. i normally eat eggs once per day, chicken twice, and whey three times. i could just switch to all eggs and whey i guess. i eat fish once a week but i usually eat chicken bc it is cheaper.

GratefulJoseph · 03-24-2009, 10:35 PM

determined don't worry this diet will get u ripped to shreds if u just follow the plan. if you're hungry eat veggies. broccoli, brussel sprouts, green beans... they are all really filling! also eat slowly and really enjoy your food. savor every bite and that will fill you up too. drink lots of water too. don't worry just follow the program and the results will follow in due time.

ReSpAwN DeMoN · 03-25-2009, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by GratefulJoseph

thanks respawn. i think you are right man...that is a bunch of carbs in the tofu. i will probably stick to meat for now unless i find another substitute that has less carbs. i normally eat eggs once per day, chicken twice, and whey three times. i could just switch to all eggs and whey i guess. i eat fish once a week but i usually eat chicken bc it is cheaper.

Not saying there is anything wrong with eggs/whey. But I do'nt think I can eat it all day! I need my chickens and my fishes!

I'll typically use whey for those critical moments during the day. Morning and Post Workout and/or cardio. So typically thee times a day for me as well. I'll typically eat the slower more difficult protein sources for pre-bed like chicken and/or steak. I don't eat steak that often unless its on a day I did legs and a cardio session (two gym sessions in one day). I'll eat eggs pre-workout and the second meal after, and tilapia and/or some type of fish for my other meals.

As for chicken vs fish and which one is cheaper. Fish is much cheaper (ESPECIALLY TILAPIA). Another thing to consider is Fish doesn't really shrink all that much when you cook it. (At my local Walmart I get 4LB's of Tilapia for $12 USC and 5LB's Chicken for $15 USC)

Determined30 · 03-25-2009, 05:18 AM

thanks Joseph - I will keep to it then! Was getting down, but I will keep at it!

push_it · 03-26-2009, 11:35 AM

Hey - I'm on a modified CHA where I get starchy carbs in Meal 1. I normally have oatmeal but was looking for another alternative. I know whole wheat bread would be a good choice but I was wondering if anyone else had any suggestions. I also know things like sweet potatoes are an awsome carb but I just don't think I would enjoy them first thing in the morning lol.
What about something like cream of wheat? Is that slow digesting?

bballbrett5 · 03-26-2009, 02:32 PM

Not really answering your question, but sweet potato + pb is the best at any time of day!

GratefulJoseph · 03-27-2009, 06:58 AM

check out ezekiel brand...they make bread, english muffins, granola, etc. which i think is all slow digesting, really good carbs. i am pretty sure that even their granola has no added sugar, but you might want to check the label to make sure.
you could also cook some brown rice the night before and then scramble it up with your eggs.

push_it · 03-27-2009, 08:22 AM

Thanks --

I was also wondering about extra lean ground beef. I don't eat a lot of it but when I do I normally boil it to reduce fat? I was wondering how much you think the fat is reduced by or if it is at all? Some things I read say boiling it does make a difference and some things say it doesn't. Comments?

Determined30 · 03-27-2009, 09:36 AM

i like the 99% lean ground turkey too! so lean and yummy

jaim91 · 03-27-2009, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by push_it

Thanks --

I was also wondering about extra lean ground beef. I don't eat a lot of it but when I do I normally boil it to reduce fat? I was wondering how much you think the fat is reduced by or if it is at all? Some things I read say boiling it does make a difference and some things say it doesn't. Comments?

Count all the fats...

You're splitting hair based on cooking preparation, and that will just end up confusing you.

So weight whatever food you have at the end of the cookie process

ironviolin · 03-30-2009, 04:18 PM

HI ..JUst wondering if substituting Coconut Oil is okay...have used in the past with good results...thanks for feedback...

Jdg6057 · 03-31-2009, 06:28 PM

I just started the modified CHA program and was wondering if I should use Dialene 4x from the beginning or wait a couple weeks. I have be dieting for two months prior to starting this program and have been upgrading my supps every month. I started with just green tea and fish oils, then went to Man Vaporize and Man Scorch, and now I was gonna up it to Dialenne 4x to start this program. Does this seem like a good idea?

B1GinNY82307 · 04-02-2009, 09:41 AM

Morning all,

I am pretty sure this has been answered, but just want to verify:

Eating veggies does not count in your carb intake? Just want to make sure b/c then I will increase my veggie intake!

And I just think below is something that needs to be re-iterated..b/c thus far the CHA diet is working for me!

I was hesitant first, but 2 full weeks behind me already and ppl are already commenting on my physique (look lighter, etc.) but still feel damn good in the gym!

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Originally Posted by kdangleman

Is it normal to feel super exhausted on this diet? I'm only two days in so I know my body has some adjusting to do. Also, I'm soooo hungry!

yes..

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Originally Posted by |ceman

Yeah, the first couple of days are rough, as your body is not adjusted to using fats for fuel and is missing the carbs. But it gets better and then energy levels come back (and are more even) and hunger is blunted.

Stay the course.

And this! ^

chalittle · 04-02-2009, 09:50 PM

I will be starting the CHA diet on Sunday and I am confused. I am new to this whole eating no carbs thing so please excuse my ignorance. I have the breakfast part down pat but it is the other 4 meals that I am confused about. Do I only eat the protein/fat combination every day without the recommended veggies (asparagus, broccoli, green beans and spinach) and only eat them once a week for the carb cheat meal or do i eat the veggies and the grapefruit everyday? I want to follow my recommended meals precisely and don't want to make a mistake. My second question is about the cardio. I love HIIT but I am used to doing it for about 45 minutes twice a day and the same goes for steady state cardio--my plan says 30 minutes of cardio in the morning or after workouts on weight training days and 15 minutes of HIIT and then 15 minutes of low intensity on Tuesday and Thursday. My question is am I only allowed to do 30 minutes of cardio once a day or can I continue to do it twice a day. I am trying to lose fat and again I want to follow my plan precisely. Again, thanks in advance for all your help!!

Glen Quagmire · 04-03-2009, 02:18 AM

1. When is the best time to take the psyllium husk fiber ?

2. A:Can I use Trader Joe's psyllium husk pills and how many are recommended ? 225 lb male. B:Can I take them with or before meals ? C:Will they suck the nutrients or protien out of my meal or my medications ?

3. Can I add EVOO to my shake and skip the almonds or pb ?

|ceman · 04-03-2009, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by chalittle

I will be starting the CHA diet on Sunday and I am confused. I am new to this whole eating no carbs thing so please excuse my ignorance. I have the breakfast part down pat but it is the other 4 meals that I am confused about. Do I only eat the protein/fat combination every day without the recommended veggies (asparagus, broccoli, green beans and spinach) and only eat them once a week for the carb cheat meal or do i eat the veggies and the grapefruit everyday? I want to follow my recommended meals precisely and don't want to make a mistake. My second question is about the cardio. I love HIIT but I am used to doing it for about 45 minutes twice a day and the same goes for steady state cardio--my plan says 30 minutes of cardio in the morning or after workouts on weight training days and 15 minutes of HIIT and then 15 minutes of low intensity on Tuesday and Thursday. My question is am I only allowed to do 30 minutes of cardio once a day or can I continue to do it twice a day. I am trying to lose fat and again I want to follow my plan precisely. Again, thanks in advance for all your help!!

To answer your questions:

Veggies are acceptable anytime you feel hungry - they are basically free foods and won't hurt your progress at all. Nobody got fat from eating too much broccoli

Fruits - eat your two servings of either grapefruit (6.5oz) or blueberries (3.0oz) daily - these are not carb "cheats" but help in your progress

Carb cheat - once a week have a meal that is anything you want - just don't sit down to a 5,000 calorie buffet

. The idea here is to provide you with a break to eat some foods that you like, but also to dial up your metabolism with having to deal with a higher calorie intake for one meal.

HIIT - if you are doing it properly, there is no way you can do it for 45 minutes twice a day. High Intensity Interval Training means that during your interval, you are giving 100% intensity. Your heart rate should go through the roof and the low interval you should be dying to catch your breath. 15 one minute intervals should have you crawling for the stop button. If it's not, then you need to push harder during your high intensity portions of your intervals.

Check out this article: http://www.teenbodybuilding.com/justin6.htm

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Originally Posted by Glen Quagmire

1. When is the best time to take the psyllium husk fiber ?

2. A:Can I use Trader Joe's psyllium husk pills and how many are recommended ? 225 lb male. B:Can I take them with or before meals ? C:Will they suck the nutrients or protien out of my meal or my medications ?

3. Can I add EVOO to my shake and skip the almonds or pb ?

1 - Anytime

2 - Pills might be hard to swallow and or get enough content. Why not use the actual husk powder and mix it in with your food/shake? Take with a meal. They do not "suck the nutrients or protein" out of your meal.

3 - Sure. Fat sources are interchangeable as long as you pay attention to the macros.

chalittle · 04-03-2009, 11:52 AM

Thanks so much for clearing this up for me--now I feel better about what I will be doing. And as far as my HIIT I am doing it incorrectly because while I am tired when I am done I am not about to "pass out" or anything like that--just sweating like a hog. So I will ramp that up as well for 30 minutes two days a week! Again thanks for the info!

MGG98 · 04-04-2009, 09:51 AM

Morning all! I have spent the last 2 hours reading, printing and rereading but I have some questions.

I am very interested in trying this to lean a little more, I am having a small-time photo shoot for me to have something to show for how far I have come and of course I want to rock it! The photos are in about 5 weeks...If I start this now do you think I will see some measurable diffrence by that time?

You can go into my bspace pg and see a somewhat recent photo..I am 5lbs up from that point but no major diffrences.

I am however a slave to the scale so I am afraid of the mental concequenses if the scale doesn't change...yes i know i have issues...lol! Should I prepare myself for minimal weight loss and more physical changes?

Energy level worries me a bit, because I am a fitness instructor, however i know i can work past that..

I have read I don't HAVE to follow the workout outlined, so I am still debating on that.. At the moment I do a 5 day split, taking Sunday off.

I am a 40min SS Fasted cardio girl 4 days a week, then I teach 2 Interval treadmil classes on wednesdays so I do no other cardio thn.. I also lk to hit the stepmill 2x's a week for some booty lifting...will this be all to much?

I teach 2 other weight classes a week but on top of my training I will have to teach and not participate.

I am soooooo lost on what body type i have..so I was planning on doing the 1600 cal plan...sound ok?

Btw....I LOVE extend...... But I don't think I use as much as I should...2 scoops during w/o and 1 scoop post??? More? and should I add it during am fasted SS cardio???

Thanks a bunch!!!!!

jaim91 · 04-04-2009, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MGG98

If I start this now do you think I will see some measurable diffrence by that time?

Definitely! I mean, you can see a small difference just by dropping water

Should I prepare myself for minimal weight loss and more physical changes?

If you've been on a carb based diet for the last little while, then you're going to see a drop right away. Then it will just level off based on your deficit[/b]

I am a 40min SS Fasted cardio girl 4 days a week, then I teach 2 Interval treadmil classes on wednesdays so I do no other cardio thn.. I also lk to hit the stepmill 2x's a week for some booty lifting...will this be all to much?

6 days a week of cardio is a lot...I would start with the minimum amount (maybe 4 - 5 days - 30-40 minutes LISS), and then as your weight loss plateaus, start incorporating more

I am soooooo lost on what body type i have..so I was planning on doing the 1600 cal plan...sound ok?

SIMPLY put: Gain muscle easily = Mesomorph. Lose fat easily = ECTOMORPH. Gain fat easily = Endomoprh. I'd start around 1700 or so...

Btw....I LOVE extend...... But I don't think I use as much as I should...2 scoops during w/o and 1 scoop post??? More? and should I add it during am fasted SS cardio???

Personal preference. I use up to 10 scoops on some days, and as little as 3 on others. It's up to you

Thanks a bunch!!!!!

Answers in bold above

MGG98 · 04-04-2009, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jaim91

Answers in bold above

Thank you!

How about the workouts? Should I stick with what I have or give this a shot...I am ultimatley looking for a change in my approach however I don't want to lose the small amounts of defitition I do have due to trying something new...do I even make sense???lol! Basically I am looking for a change in my w/o's just wondering if just before doing these photos is a good idea?

Wow, 1700? I don't think I have ever eaten that much..lol. I am willing to try anything though, I can always tweak it...

Is dairy a no go? Cottage cheese, greek yogurt, splash of skim in coffee...if i work it in to the #'s?

As far as the cardio.... I can't change my 2 interval sessions on Wednesdays but I can cut back on my SS fasted...

Thanks so much for your help...I was feeling a little lost....

jaim91 · 04-04-2009, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MGG98

Thank you!

How about the workouts? Should I stick with what I have or give this a shot...I am ultimatley looking for a change in my approach however I don't want to lose the small amounts of defitition I do have due to trying something new...do I even make sense???lol! Basically I am looking for a change in my w/o's just wondering if just before doing these photos is a good idea?

You can't lose muscle by trying something new. You lose muscle by not eating enough and doing too much cardio.

Wow, 1700? I don't think I have ever eaten that much..lol. I am willing to try anything though, I can always tweak it...

If you start to gain, back off a little...

Is dairy a no go? Cottage cheese, greek yogurt, splash of skim in coffee...if i work it in to the #'s?

Look at the substitution choices in the book

As far as the cardio.... I can't change my 2 interval sessions on Wednesdays but I can cut back on my SS fasted...

Thanks so much for your help...I was feeling a little lost....

No problem! Best of luck with your shoot!

fitliftkit · 04-04-2009, 10:25 PM

Just curious to know from the authors, what liquid do you mix your whey with on this Game Over nutrition program? Thanks.

|ceman · 04-05-2009, 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by fitliftkit

Just curious to know from the authors, what liquid do you mix your whey with on this Game Over nutrition program? Thanks.

The authors don't post much in here anymore, but the answer is water.

MGG98 · 04-05-2009, 07:47 AM

Now I am REALLY confused....I just saw there is a H.B.E plan for women, basically the C.H.A with some adjustments in the diet and w/o's are diffrent....

I am pretty sure I will stick with the C.H.A cause I like the idea of the fruits and cheat...lol

After reading through alot of these posts, i am still left w/some questions...

If I am eating lots of veggies do I still need to add in the physilum husk stuff? Isn't that a fiber thing? Im a little paranoid as I have Celiac and I have issues with too much fiber.

Also, If I am doing the required amounts of fats, shoul I still also add in fish oil? If so how much and how often?

One more .....(for now...lol) What is sludge?

Thank you!

leanandme · 04-05-2009, 01:00 PM

Be patient it takes time. train and eat right. your percentage of bodyfat will decrease. The lifestyle works. Say positive and happy.

HairyScandinavian · 04-05-2009, 01:49 PM

I searched this thread, but it didn't come up. How effective is a test booster such as Activate Xtreme or Reversitol used in conjunction with the CHA diet? I'm thinking of trying a CHA bulk here pretty soon and got a few bottles in the cabinet that are getting old.

ReSpAwN DeMoN · 04-05-2009, 04:03 PM

What changes would ya'll make if you were say, 5-6 weeks out from stage. I'm just curious how "off" I am.

This was today.

Supplements unless indicated are Scivation/Pforce

Meal1: 65g Chocolate Whey, 52g natty pb, 5g GNC unflavored psyllium husk
Supplements: 2 Dialene 4X, 1 Lean Green (20 Minutes prior to meal), 1 Scoop Grape Xtend (5 minutes prior to meal), 3 Essential FA, 1 Max CLA, 1.25ml Sesamin Oil, 1 Animal Pak /w meal.

Workout: 6 Scoops Watermelon Xtend in 30oz water sipped through session
10 Minutes Stair Master (Lvl 8) (MI)
20 Minutes Elliptical (5MPH @ Lvl 15) (LI)
30 Minutes Treadmill (3.6MPH @ 3.0 Incline) (LI)
Total - 1 Hour LI/MI Cardio

Meal2: 65g Vanilla Whey, 1 Scoop Orange Xtend, 26g Enova Oil, 5g GNC unflavored psyllium husk, 6.5oz grapefruit
Supplements: 1 Scoop Apple Xtend (5 minutes prior to meal), 1.25ml Sesamin Oil /w meal.

4 PEA Caps (I like the feeling)

Meal3: 5 Whole Eggs, 30g fat free cheese (2g carbs)
Supplements: 1 Scoop Grape Xtend (5 minutes prior to meal), 1.25ml Sesamin Oil /w meal.

Meal4: 5oz Turkey Cutlets (99% Lean), handful brocolli, 30g fat free cheese, 14g Extra-Virgin Olive Oil, 20g Almonds
Supplements: 2 Dialene 4X, 1 Lean Green (20 Minutes prior to meal), 1 Scoop Grape Xtend (5 minutes prior to meal), 3 Essential FA, 1 Max CLA, 1.25ml Sesamin Oil, 1 Animal Pak /w meal.

Meal5: 5oz Tilapia, handful brocolli, 30g fat free cheese, 14g Enova Oil, 20g Almonds
Supplements: 1 Scoop Grape Xtend (5 minutes prior to meal), 1.25ml Sesamin Oil /w meal.

Meal6: 5 Whole Eggs, 30g fat free cheese, 99g blackberries/blueberries.
Supplements: 3 Knockout, 3 ZMA (30 minutes prior to meal), 1 Scoop Orange Xtend (5 minutes prior to meal), 1.25ml Sesamin Oil /w meal.

Once per week I'll have an overboard cheat.
Last month, large deep dish pizza from domino's with extra cheese pepporoni/pineapple.

Currently doing Cut Diet 2500 Refeed Meal every 3 days due to the school I'm in which contains alot of running.

I appreciate any and all critiques/comments.

K-Dawg_05 · 04-06-2009, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ReSpAwN DeMoN

What changes would ya'll make if you were say, 5-6 weeks out from stage. I'm just curious how "off" I am.

This was today.

Supplements unless indicated are Scivation/Pforce

Meal1: 65g Chocolate Whey, 52g natty pb, 5g GNC unflavored psyllium husk
Supplements: 2 Dialene 4X, 1 Lean Green (20 Minutes prior to meal), 1 Scoop Grape Xtend (5 minutes prior to meal), 3 Essential FA, 1 Max CLA, 1.25ml Sesamin Oil, 1 Animal Pak /w meal.

Workout: 6 Scoops Watermelon Xtend in 30oz water sipped through session
10 Minutes Stair Master (Lvl 8) (MI)
20 Minutes Elliptical (5MPH @ Lvl 15) (LI)
30 Minutes Treadmill (3.6MPH @ 3.0 Incline) (LI)
Total - 1 Hour LI/MI Cardio

Meal2: 65g Vanilla Whey, 1 Scoop Orange Xtend, 26g Enova Oil, 5g GNC unflavored psyllium husk, 6.5oz grapefruit
Supplements: 1 Scoop Apple Xtend (5 minutes prior to meal), 1.25ml Sesamin Oil /w meal.

4 PEA Caps (I like the feeling)

Meal3: 5 Whole Eggs, 30g fat free cheese (2g carbs)
Supplements: 1 Scoop Grape Xtend (5 minutes prior to meal), 1.25ml Sesamin Oil /w meal.

Meal4: 5oz Turkey Cutlets (99% Lean), handful brocolli, 30g fat free cheese, 14g Extra-Virgin Olive Oil, 20g Almonds
Supplements: 2 Dialene 4X, 1 Lean Green (20 Minutes prior to meal), 1 Scoop Grape Xtend (5 minutes prior to meal), 3 Essential FA, 1 Max CLA, 1.25ml Sesamin Oil, 1 Animal Pak /w meal.

Meal5: 5oz Tilapia, handful brocolli, 30g fat free cheese, 14g Enova Oil, 20g Almonds
Supplements: 1 Scoop Grape Xtend (5 minutes prior to meal), 1.25ml Sesamin Oil /w meal.

Meal6: 5 Whole Eggs, 30g fat free cheese, 99g blackberries/blueberries.
Supplements: 3 Knockout, 3 ZMA (30 minutes prior to meal), 1 Scoop Orange Xtend (5 minutes prior to meal), 1.25ml Sesamin Oil /w meal.

Once per week I'll have an overboard cheat.
Last month, large deep dish pizza from domino's with extra cheese pepporoni/pineapple.

Currently doing Cut Diet 2500 Refeed Meal every 3 days due to the school I'm in which contains alot of running.

I appreciate any and all critiques/comments.

If I were 5 weeks out, I wouldnt use any dairy, just meats and oils and would probly leave out the fruit with one managed carb day a week.

ReSpAwN DeMoN · 04-06-2009, 05:17 PM

Ya that's something I'm considering, is removing the cheese.

I think that's what's keeping me from seeing my bottom botom abs. I have skin there and it just feels "empty". One of my buddies was saying it felt like skin and I just have to wait for it to tighten up.

But then again another thing, of why is my cals are still WAY WAY high. I'm sitting at 2500, because I'm maintaining weight and getting leaner so its like magic! lol I might just stick to this cal lvl throughout summer and increase to 3000 (/w carbs pwo meals/breakfast) during the fall/winter months.

Or I might jump back on the Lean Mass Diet and go up to 4500-5000 Calories. Game time is over for me. Not sure if I will handle the CHA to well at that high of calorie level..