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Old 04-01-2009, 10:15 PM   #691
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so after researching tren for a while now i'm thinking about going with this.. What do you think? Add anything? Take anything away? please let me know your thoughts.

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Old 04-02-2009, 08:40 AM   #692
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Based on my extended research and also posing on prohormone forums, it's best to use a SERM (wiki this) like Clomid/Nolvadex to ensure proper recovery from hormonal disruption
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I know clomid and nolva are very highly preached, but I think Iforce really nailed down the OTC PCT with reversitol...never seen a bad review on it, doubt I ever will
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On my first cycle of ACL's Tren and Mass there were several nights where i'd wake up and the bed where my back had been laying was soaked...at first i was like WTF... my gf pissed the bed. haha j/k ...seriously tho it did make me wake up sweating... and my sweat smelled different on my cycel... once off, i was back to normal. I've heard (read on-online) that "real" steroids have made users sweat at night and also made the sweat smell different... stronger smelling but not pro hormones....any ideas? I know the ACL's products are really potent and cause side effects... but... I guess i never expected this.

on a side note does everyone agree that after Tren by ACL a sufficient PCT for most is Iforce Reversitol and 20mg ED of tamoxifen? I've asked b4 but I like asking around and get multiple opinions.
i never noticed my sweat having an odd smell but i have noticed a freaking strong hormonal scent coming from the old twig and berries. hehe.

and i have never done the PCT for a Tren cycle yet being as this is my first one. i do have Reversitol on hand though because it was recommended by many people here. i also have some Post Cycle Tabs by IDS. i used those after my Deca-Vol cycle and they worked great.
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i never noticed my sweat having an odd smell but i have noticed a freaking strong hormonal scent coming from the old twig and berries. hehe.

and i have never done the PCT for a Tren cycle yet being as this is my first one. i do have Reversitol on hand though because it was recommended by many people here. i also have some Post Cycle Tabs by IDS. i used those after my Deca-Vol cycle and they worked great.
IDS Post Cycle Tabs used to be my PCT of choice before I discovered the wonderful world of Reversitol
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Well, I think I had 1 or 2 nights with a sweat-neck in the middle of the night. Nothing major, and no sleep disorders. But it has been 6 weeks since my cycle and 2 weeks since my reversitol ended. The biggest thing is that my libido (the desire) was really hammered down. I was hoping that the reversitol would prevent this or at least combat this issue(definitely from the tren cycle). I started taking bulgarian tribulus the day I finished the reversitol and finally am back to my horndog self! I've been on a cutting phase for the last 2 weeks, with low carbs., and my strength has diminished moderately. I went from bench max of 285 to 335 in 4 weeks on tren, and have gone back down to 315 now. Still happy with the results, and will include the tribulus DURING my next tren cycle in July. I gained 20 lbs.(not all lean-about 50/50) during cycle, but didn't eat clean at all! I'll also eat clean calories on this next one. The libido issue MAY be due to my age, but don't know. Just remember....EVERY ONE IS DIFFERENT! There are just too many relevant factors to consider and all results will NOT be the same!!! Good luck to all.
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tbol is great for libido but ive heard bad stuff about it on cycle(contains trans resvertrol or w/e) and but also have heard good stuff about testobalon on cycle so i dunno. i havnt heard anything bad about trib on cycle so might as well. plus 6 weeks of tren will deff turn libido off usually i read 3rd week starts to take affect. so like 2.5 months till your next cycle bigtrik? log it man im sure you will hit 355
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tbol is great for libido but ive heard bad stuff about it on cycle(contains trans resvertrol or w/e) and but also have heard good stuff about testobalon on cycle so i dunno. i havnt heard anything bad about trib on cycle so might as well. plus 6 weeks of tren will deff turn libido off usually i read 3rd week starts to take affect. so like 2.5 months till your next cycle bigtrik? log it man im sure you will hit 355
I only did a 4 week cycle. And it will be July 2, which is 3 months away. Trying to cut down to a shredded 155 to win a biggest loser contest (body weight %). Will be lucky to maintain 300 on the bench, but will build up lean to 180-190 again. Gonna shoot for twice my body weight on bench whatever I end up weighing.
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yeah, like i said, i had good results with Post Cycle Tabs but since everyone is talking about Reversitol, i had to get a bottle for this Tren and Mass X stack. other than some simple issues like sleeplessness and feeling hot before bed, i have had NO issues with the Tren x and Mass x stack.
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hey, i just bought tren extreme for ACL and it came with EFA-952 xtreme. i wonder if anyone heard about this stuff? is it good for using during cycle with tren?
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You dont know what Omega 3 are but you're about to take Tren.....awesome
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EFA= essential fatty acids. Yes, it's always good to take them at all times. You may have heard of them as omega 3,6, or 9. Generally obtained from fish oil, flax seed, borage, almonds,etc.,etc. But DO read your labels and research the products extensively before getting into a cycle you are not familiar with. You may regret just going by what someone tells you.
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hey, i just bought tren extreme for ACL and it came with EFA-952 xtreme. i wonder if anyone heard about this stuff? is it good for using during cycle with tren?
Cant speak for it's actual advantage while on any cycle, but I did use them along with my other daily vitamins. Its not like your going to see a weight difference or size difference but it can aid in your sense of well being. Definitely cant hurt since the body utilizes essential fatty acids for hormone production, specifically for the production of prostaglandins, which aid in reducing hypertension, migraine headaches, and arthritis and inflammation; and the reduction of the risk of blood clotting. Furthermore, essential fatty acids help protect the body from cardiovascular disease, candidiasis, eczema, and psoriasis, and they play a critical role in brain development and in the transmission of nerve impulses.

I know there isn't much info about ACL's EFA-952 but in general fatty acids are good.

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EFA= essential fatty acids. Yes, it's always good to take them at all times. You may have heard of them as omega 3,6, or 9. Generally obtained from fish oil, flax seed, borage, almonds,etc.,etc. But DO read your labels and research the products extensively before getting into a cycle you are not familiar with. You may regret just going by what someone tells you.
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Cant speak for it's actual advantage while on any cycle, but I did use them along with my other daily vitamins. Its not like your going to see a weight difference or size difference but it can aid in your sense of well being. Definitely cant hurt since the body utilizes essential fatty acids for hormone production, specifically for the production of prostaglandins, which aid in reducing hypertension, migraine headaches, and arthritis and inflammation; and the reduction of the risk of blood clotting. Furthermore, essential fatty acids help protect the body from cardiovascular disease, candidiasis, eczema, and psoriasis, and they play a critical role in brain development and in the transmission of nerve impulses.

I know there isn't much info about ACL's EFA-952 but in general fatty acids are good.

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You guys saw that he was 18 right? just sayin...
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can i have a link to the product? i tried looking for it in the store but it seems like i can't find tren extrem.

Just methyl tren. I a planning to use that as a first cycle in my after my 21 b-day.

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You guys saw that he was 18 right? just sayin...
Definitely not inspiring under 21 to mess their hormones up! Realistically, with all the posts on this board about youngsters cycling too early, do you think he'd listen to another one? Hence:"research any product extensively"!
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can i have a link to the product? i tried looking for it in the store but it seems like i can't find tren extrem.

Just methyl tren. I a planning to use that as a first cycle in my after my 21 b-day.

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Cmon man, have you not typed "Tren Xtreme" in your search engine? Always appreciate the reps, tho!
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Definitely not inspiring under 21 to mess their hormones up! Realistically, with all the posts on this board about youngsters cycling too early, do you think he'd listen to another one? Hence:"research any product extensively"!
Yeah i didnt think it was in yoru character from seeing other posts hence why i asked to make sure and didnt blindly go on the attack

Its really frustrating for me to see all that because some of the best gains i made TOTALLY natural were from like 18-21 which is when a lot of these guys are doing this stuff. I'm almost to the point of just not posting though, lol, and this is why i dont personal train or never did because a lot of people would ask for advice but never really put in any type of effort but just complain things dont work for them....

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Yeah i didnt think it was in yoru character from seeing other posts hence why i asked to make sure and didnt blindly go on the attack

Its really frustrating for me to see all that because some of the best gains i made TOTALLY natural were from like 18-21 which is when a lot of these guys are doing this stuff. I'm almost to the point of just not posting though, lol, and this is why i dont personal train or never did because a lot of people would ask for advice but never really put in any type of effort but just complain things dont work for them....

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Yep. Either have haters of the lifestyle because misery loves company, or the others who want what they see, but when I take the time to tell them everything that I put myself through to just look and feel good, it's about two to five minutes and I can see the interest leaving their eyes like a deer in a spotlight. So I just don't advocate. Nobody will ever hear the word "easy" come out of my mouth. But how bad do you want it? That is the question. Seems like alot of them are looking for the magic potion, so they don't have to change anything in their life. Human beings have become spoiled beyond reality!!! Anyway, to keep in the aspect of this post, I can't wait until my next cycle of Tren Xtreme!! LOL. C ya.
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HEy can you guys check out my thread of my first cycle on tren and review it
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Cmon man, have you not typed "Tren Xtreme" in your search engine? Always appreciate the reps, tho!
i am making a big ph order over here on bb.com

(i may move back to italy in a few months so i wanted to stock up since phs are illegal over there)

So i was looking to find an available clone here on bb.com

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I believe he was referring to tren on the age thing. Yes vitamins are very good for any age. I use to like the barney rubble one myself. Or maybe it was dino?
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So i was looking to find an available clone here on bb.com

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Sorry, I don't do the clone thing. There is one that I know of called Extreme tren but don't care for the takeoffs myself. I will stick to the proven.
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I read your thread, and it seems like you are wanting someone to tell you everything will be just fine. It probably will, but just know that every one is different and a few are going to have problems no matter what compound we are referring to. I did fine with the reversitol as a pct, but the libido shut down. It took me two weeks on tribulus to get that back to normal. But the cycle itself looks good to me. Good luck. And you still might want to research as much as possible. Never can be too educated. I finished my first tren xtreme cycle 2 months ago and I constantly research still.
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I'm 38 & 6' I did a cycle of Tren extreme, HMG Extreme, estro block, milk thistle. "Obviously I ramped up and ramped down through the 6 weeks going from 1 pill a day to 3 a day and then down again" Then after 6 weeks I did my pct with Advanced PCT, tribulus, milk thistle, and some estro block. I saw big gains going from 202 to 227 with big strength increases. 3 weeks into PCT, I'm down to 217 now and haven't lost my strength. Didn't have any libido issues while on my cycle, but did for the first 10 days or so of pct. Now, I'm trying to cut and am looking at everything from Lipodrene, Clem, and forskohlii. Anyone have some suggestions on the cutting supplement? I already eat 5 times a day, lean meat, cup of carb and 2 cup veggies. No carbs for my last meal.

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I'm 38 & 6' I did a cycle of Tren extreme, HMG Extreme, estro block, milk thistle. "Obviously I ramped up and ramped down through the 6 weeks going from 1 pill a day to 3 a day and then down again" Then after 6 weeks I did my pct with Advanced PCT, tribulus, milk thistle, and some estro block. I saw big gains going from 202 to 227 with big strength increases. 3 weeks into PCT, I'm down to 217 now and haven't lost my strength. Didn't have any libido issues while on my cycle, but did for the first 10 days or so of pct. Now, I'm trying to cut and am looking at everything from Lipodrene, Clem, and forskohlii. Anyone have some suggestions on the cutting supplement? I already eat 5 times a day, lean meat, cup of carb and 2 cup veggies. No carbs for my last meal.

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methyl1d and tren extreme with a side of mdrol....what do u think? too much, too dangerous, just unecessary
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you lost ten pounds of fat in three weeks...don't seem like you need anything, just keep doing what you're doing
No, maybe a pound or two but I'm guessing it was water weight.
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