Outline of Dave Palumbo's Diet For Cutting

[sean_brannen]

Originally Posted by bigmoe5067

anyone else lose more than 10lbs in the first week? im not sure if i should be happy or concerned. ive went from 246 to 233 in 7 days. though im not really following the diet to a tee anymore. ive started skipping my first meal so i can lift and do my 90 minute cardio fasted. and sometimes i also skip the last meal and in place of missing both the egg meals i just eat an extra half portion of chicken. im eating anywhere from 2000 to 2400 cals a day. my strength has stayed the same throughout (even in the absence of creatine and a stimulant).

the only problem is im feeling light headed constantly and im actually taking 10 minute naps here and there. im also having a hard time focusing. is this dizziness and tiredness coming from the lack of nutrition from the eggs or just the absence of calories. should i be concerned with losing weight this fast?

I'm down 8, almost 9 lbs in the first week. You were probably holding a lot of water. I dropped 6 lbs in the first 2 days, obviously all water so I wouldn't worry too much yet. I don't think I'd be skipping any meals though. If anything it'll slow your progress and you'll probably lose some muscle. Fewer calories doesn't necessarily mean more fat loss.

[Toshiya]

Originally Posted by oddsilence

Animal Pak also contain maltdexotrin....since crystal light aint allowed...will anima pak safe? Toshiya said it is...anybody else??

Toshiya,
Can you post what kinda tuna you are eating instead of chicken...what brand?

I live in Malaysia bro, so I doubt you'd be able to get the same Tuna as me!
It's basic light Tuna which is water packed and about 30 grams of Protein per tin. I have 2 tins, with 10 walnuts and 1 tablespoon of Olive Oil as one meal.

[drmmrRT]

Originally Posted by bigmoe5067

anyone else lose more than 10lbs in the first week? im not sure if i should be happy or concerned. ive went from 246 to 233 in 7 days. though im not really following the diet to a tee anymore. ive started skipping my first meal so i can lift and do my 90 minute cardio fasted. and sometimes i also skip the last meal and in place of missing both the egg meals i just eat an extra half portion of chicken. im eating anywhere from 2000 to 2400 cals a day. my strength has stayed the same throughout (even in the absence of creatine and a stimulant).

the only problem is im feeling light headed constantly and im actually taking 10 minute naps here and there. im also having a hard time focusing. is this dizziness and tiredness coming from the lack of nutrition from the eggs or just the absence of calories. should i be concerned with losing weight this fast?

ive lst 8 since sunday and im so happy. if i can get to 230-235 pretty ripped then ill be ecstatic. this diet is badass AND ive cheated a couple times. playin it straight for the next 10 days or so though

[essenceofmex]

yeh ive lost about 5-6 lbs in the first 5 days, not bad =D, where i really notice the difference is my face even tough i feel a little weird sometimes, but its workin =P

[essenceofmex]

Variations of the Palumbo diet for certain individuals :
note, where you see a ? its a 1/2

200lb male
Meal #1: 5 whole eggs (Omega-3), 4 egg-whites (can be liquid
egg-whites).
Meal #2: Shake: 50g Whey Protein with 1 ? tablespoon of All Natural
Peanut Butter (no sugar).
Meal #3: Lean protein meal: 8oz Chicken with ? cup cashew nuts (or
almonds, walnuts).
Meal #4: Shake: same as meal #2.
Meal #5: Fatty protein meal: 8oz Salmon, Swordfish, or Red Meat with a
green salad (no tomatoes, carrots, or red peppers) with 1 tablespoon of
Olive Oil or Macadamia Nut Oil and Vinegar.
Meal #6: Same as meal #2 and #4, or 4 whole (Omega-3) eggs and 4 extra
egg-whites.

250lb+ male
Meal #1: 6 whole (Omega-3) eggs.
Meal #2: 8oz chicken with ? cup raw almonds.
Meal #3: 50g whey protein with 2 tablespoons all natural peanut butter.
Meal #4: 8oz salmon with 1 cup asparagus with 1 tablespoon macadamia nut
oil.
Meal #5: same as meal #3.
Meal #6: 6 whole (Omega-3) eggs.

120lb female
Meal #1: 2 whole (omega-3) eggs and 6 egg-whites.
Meal #2: 4oz chicken with 1/4 cup raw almonds.
Meal #3: 35g whey protein with 1 tablespoon all natural peanut butter.
Meal #4: 4oz salmon with 1 cup asparagus with 1 tablespoon macadamia nut
oil.
Meal #5: same as meal #1 or meal #3.

100lb (lean body mass) female figure competitor
Meal #1: 2 whole omega-3 eggs and 4 egg whites.
Meal #2: 30g whey protein and 1 tablespoon natural peanut butter.
Meal #3: 6oz chicken and 1oz (1/8 cup) raw almonds.
Meal #4: same as meal #2.
Meal #5: 4oz salmon, 2 cups of spinach leaves, 1 teaspoon virgin olive
oil and vinegar.

170lb male (153lbs LBM)
Meal #1: 3 whole omega-3 eggs, 3 egg-whites, 3 slices fat-free turkey.
Meal #2: 40g whey protein and 1 tablespoon olive oil.
Meal #3: 150g skinless chicken breast and 1 tablespoon soy and 1
tablespoon mustard and 30g almonds.
Meal #4: same as meal #2.
Meal #5: 200g top sirloin steak and 85g raw spinach and 1 tablespoon
olive oil.
Meal #6: 2 whole omega-3 eggs, 1 can tuna.

160 lb male
Meal #1: 4 whole eggs, ? cup egg-whites, fish oil, primrose oil.
Meal #2: 7oz chicken, ? cup almonds.
Meal #3: 7oz salmon, 1 cup spinach.
Meal #4: same as meal #2.
Meal #5: 7oz lean ground beef, 1 cup spinach, 1 tablespoon olive oil.
Meal #6: 3 whole eggs, 1 cup egg-whites, fish oil, primrose oil.

185lb natty bb at 12%bf
Meal #1: 5 whole omega-3 eggs.
Meal #2: 7oz chicken with 1/3 cup raw almonds.
Meal #3: 40g whey protein with 1.5 tablespoons all natural peanut butter
(post-workout meal).
Meal #4: 6oz salmon with 1 cup asparagus with 1 tablespoon macadamia nut
oil.
Meal #5: 40g whey protein with 2 tablespoons all natural peanut butter.
Meal #6: 4 whole omega-3 eggs with 4 extra egg-whites.

176lb natty bb at 11-12%bf
Meal #1: 4 whole omega-3 eggs with 4 extra egg-whites.
Meal #2: 200g chicken with 1/3 cup raw almonds.
Meal #3: 40g whey protein with 1 tablespoon all natural peanut butter.
Meal #4: 200g red meat or salmon with 1 cup asparagus.
Meal #5: 40g whey protein with 1.5 tablespoons all natural peanut
butter.
Meal #6: same as meal #1.

155lb male at 15%bf
Meal #1: 3 whole omega-3 eggs.
Meal #2: 5oz chicken with ? cup raw almonds.
Meal #3: 30g whey isolate with 1 tablespoon all natural peanut butter.
Meal #4: 7oz (93%) lean ground beef with 1 cup romaine lettuce
(dressing: 3 teaspoons ev olive oil and 3 teaspoons balsamic vinegar)
and 1 tablespoon flaxseed oil.
Meal #5: same as meal #3.
Meal #6: same as meal #1.

195lb male
Meal #1: 5 whole eggs.
Meal #2: 8oz chicken breast and 1/3 cup almonds.
Meal #3: 50g whey protein isolate with 1.5 tablespoon natural peanut
butter.
Meal #4: 8oz fish with 1/3 cup almonds.
Meal #5: 55g whey protein isolate with 1.5 tablespoon natural peanut
butter (post workout).
Meal #6: same as meal #1.

172lbs at 11%bf with protein and veggies days incorporated
3X P-F, 2X P-V

Pro-Fat
Meal #1: 4 whole eggs with 4 egg-whites.
Meal #2: 6oz chicken (cooked) and 1/3 cup raw almonds.
Meal #3: 40g whey protein and 1.5 tablespoon all natural peanut butter.
Meal Meal #6: same as meal #1.

Pro-veggie
Meal #1: 12 egg-whites.
Meal #2: 6oz chicken (cooked) and 1 cup asparagus.
Meal #3: 40g whey protein with water.
Meal #4: 6oz tuna and 1 cup asparagus.
Meal #5: same as meal #3.
Meal #6: same as meal #1.

[iliveinjersey]

Originally Posted by essenceofmex

Variations of the Palumbo diet for certain individuals :
note, where you see a ? its a 1/2

200lb male
Meal #1: 5 whole eggs (Omega-3), 4 egg-whites (can be liquid
egg-whites).
Meal #2: Shake: 50g Whey Protein with 1 ? tablespoon of All Natural
Peanut Butter (no sugar).
Meal #3: Lean protein meal: 8oz Chicken with ? cup cashew nuts (or
almonds, walnuts).
Meal #4: Shake: same as meal #2.
Meal #5: Fatty protein meal: 8oz Salmon, Swordfish, or Red Meat with a
green salad (no tomatoes, carrots, or red peppers) with 1 tablespoon of
Olive Oil or Macadamia Nut Oil and Vinegar.
Meal #6: Same as meal #2 and #4, or 4 whole (Omega-3) eggs and 4 extra
egg-whites.

250lb+ male
Meal #1: 6 whole (Omega-3) eggs.
Meal #2: 8oz chicken with ? cup raw almonds.
Meal #3: 50g whey protein with 2 tablespoons all natural peanut butter.
Meal #4: 8oz salmon with 1 cup asparagus with 1 tablespoon macadamia nut
oil.
Meal #5: same as meal #3.
Meal #6: 6 whole (Omega-3) eggs.

120lb female
Meal #1: 2 whole (omega-3) eggs and 6 egg-whites.
Meal #2: 4oz chicken with 1/4 cup raw almonds.
Meal #3: 35g whey protein with 1 tablespoon all natural peanut butter.
Meal #4: 4oz salmon with 1 cup asparagus with 1 tablespoon macadamia nut
oil.
Meal #5: same as meal #1 or meal #3.

100lb (lean body mass) female figure competitor
Meal #1: 2 whole omega-3 eggs and 4 egg whites.
Meal #2: 30g whey protein and 1 tablespoon natural peanut butter.
Meal #3: 6oz chicken and 1oz (1/8 cup) raw almonds.
Meal #4: same as meal #2.
Meal #5: 4oz salmon, 2 cups of spinach leaves, 1 teaspoon virgin olive
oil and vinegar.

170lb male (153lbs LBM)
Meal #1: 3 whole omega-3 eggs, 3 egg-whites, 3 slices fat-free turkey.
Meal #2: 40g whey protein and 1 tablespoon olive oil.
Meal #3: 150g skinless chicken breast and 1 tablespoon soy and 1
tablespoon mustard and 30g almonds.
Meal #4: same as meal #2.
Meal #5: 200g top sirloin steak and 85g raw spinach and 1 tablespoon
olive oil.
Meal #6: 2 whole omega-3 eggs, 1 can tuna.

160 lb male
Meal #1: 4 whole eggs, ? cup egg-whites, fish oil, primrose oil.
Meal #2: 7oz chicken, ? cup almonds.
Meal #3: 7oz salmon, 1 cup spinach.
Meal #4: same as meal #2.
Meal #5: 7oz lean ground beef, 1 cup spinach, 1 tablespoon olive oil.
Meal #6: 3 whole eggs, 1 cup egg-whites, fish oil, primrose oil.

185lb natty bb at 12%bf
Meal #1: 5 whole omega-3 eggs.
Meal #2: 7oz chicken with 1/3 cup raw almonds.
Meal #3: 40g whey protein with 1.5 tablespoons all natural peanut butter
(post-workout meal).
Meal #4: 6oz salmon with 1 cup asparagus with 1 tablespoon macadamia nut
oil.
Meal #5: 40g whey protein with 2 tablespoons all natural peanut butter.
Meal #6: 4 whole omega-3 eggs with 4 extra egg-whites.

176lb natty bb at 11-12%bf
Meal #1: 4 whole omega-3 eggs with 4 extra egg-whites.
Meal #2: 200g chicken with 1/3 cup raw almonds.
Meal #3: 40g whey protein with 1 tablespoon all natural peanut butter.
Meal #4: 200g red meat or salmon with 1 cup asparagus.
Meal #5: 40g whey protein with 1.5 tablespoons all natural peanut
butter.
Meal #6: same as meal #1.

155lb male at 15%bf
Meal #1: 3 whole omega-3 eggs.
Meal #2: 5oz chicken with ? cup raw almonds.
Meal #3: 30g whey isolate with 1 tablespoon all natural peanut butter.
Meal #4: 7oz (93%) lean ground beef with 1 cup romaine lettuce
(dressing: 3 teaspoons ev olive oil and 3 teaspoons balsamic vinegar)
and 1 tablespoon flaxseed oil.
Meal #5: same as meal #3.
Meal #6: same as meal #1.

195lb male
Meal #1: 5 whole eggs.
Meal #2: 8oz chicken breast and 1/3 cup almonds.
Meal #3: 50g whey protein isolate with 1.5 tablespoon natural peanut
butter.
Meal #4: 8oz fish with 1/3 cup almonds.
Meal #5: 55g whey protein isolate with 1.5 tablespoon natural peanut
butter (post workout).
Meal #6: same as meal #1.

172lbs at 11%bf with protein and veggies days incorporated
3X P-F, 2X P-V

Pro-Fat
Meal #1: 4 whole eggs with 4 egg-whites.
Meal #2: 6oz chicken (cooked) and 1/3 cup raw almonds.
Meal #3: 40g whey protein and 1.5 tablespoon all natural peanut butter.
Meal Meal #6: same as meal #1.

Pro-veggie
Meal #1: 12 egg-whites.
Meal #2: 6oz chicken (cooked) and 1 cup asparagus.
Meal #3: 40g whey protein with water.
Meal #4: 6oz tuna and 1 cup asparagus.
Meal #5: same as meal #3.
Meal #6: same as meal #1.

BUMP!

[iliveinjersey]

Day 4 and Down 5lbs I know most is water weight but stil cool. Thanks for eveyones help.

[lebron23]

How much water are you guys drinking?

[PaytonsBears]

Originally Posted by destin125

quick question. ive been on this diet for a week and already see results but in about 2 weeks im guna booze it up A lOT for spring break. is it even worth sticking to this diet or am i just guna bloat a **** load once i start drinking.

You are most likely to bloat up. Especially on beer. If you were to only drink hard liq, you technically would not leave ketosis because of the lack of carbs in it. However, with low carbs and hard alcohol, you are asking for the worst hangover of yourlife. Not to mention you would get drunk too quickly. Start up after spring break bro/

[mattman]

my sugar free metamucil has malodextrin in it.....what to do?

[oddsilence]

Originally Posted by Toshiya

I live in Malaysia bro, so I doubt you'd be able to get the same Tuna as me!
It's basic light Tuna which is water packed and about 30 grams of Protein per tin. I have 2 tins, with 10 walnuts and 1 tablespoon of Olive Oil as one meal.

thanks..i think i have hit a hard plateau bro...like my weight has been same for last 3 weeks..need to change something..thinking of adding fasted cardio..what do u think?

I am taking scivation whey btw.

[HairyScandinavian]

Originally Posted by lebron23

How much water are you guys drinking?

TONS, constantly drinking water all day.

Originally Posted by mattman

my sugar free metamucil has malodextrin in it.....what to do?

This is why people are recommending the psyllium husk powders and such, but Dave said sugar free metamucil was OK so I dunno...

[HairyScandinavian]

Originally Posted by oddsilence

thanks..i think i have hit a hard plateau bro...like my weight has been same for last 3 weeks..need to change something..thinking of adding fasted cardio..what do u think?

I am taking scivation whey btw.

Yes, up the cardio and leave the diet the same.

[illiquid]

Hey guys first post here and I just have a couple of questions so any help will be appreciated.

Basically I'm new to weight lifting and just started about 3 months ago and in that time have gained 17 pounds. Anyways now I wish to lose some weight and have decided that this diet is the way to go. I just wish to know exactly how important the low intensity cardio is? In the past 3 months since I started lifting weights I have been doing about a 1 hour bike ride (@moderate to high intensity) every morning and 1 hour weights @ night on a 2 day on 1 day off routine (but have now just started a 2 day on, 1 day off, 3 day on, 1 day off routine). Anyways the reason why I am asking about the cardio is that because I have been doing lots of cardio at a high intensity I have still been gaining muscle and strength pretty smoothly. But if i drop that down to low intensity cardio would I gain muscle faster perhaps and still lose fat at the same or perhaps a faster rate? My main goal is to drop my body fat % down alot and i'm just a little confused on what type of cardio will work best.

My friend says that I should just keep on gaining while I can, however, I like the look of being alot leaner and the thought of getting too big then having to cut down alot at 1 time seems a little daunting than starting off with a lower weight cut for my first time so I can control it better and then perhaps be better prepared for next time or whatever.

haha go easy on me guys i'm still a nub and have lots to learn.

thanks

[Toshiya]

Originally Posted by oddsilence

thanks..i think i have hit a hard plateau bro...like my weight has been same for last 3 weeks..need to change something..thinking of adding fasted cardio..what do u think?

I am taking scivation whey btw.

Cardio is king IMO. Add the fasted cardio first and then monitor your progress.

[ste247]

just havin my cheat meal ill prob go a little over 500 carbs as it my last dirty cheat meal on this diet after this week its 1 serving of rice some chicken with skin left on and maybe a small pudding.....iam starting my pro veg days tomorrow every outher day as i only have 8 weeks to my show so i want to come in extra lean anyway i lost another 4lbs this week dirty cheating but want to get rid of the last bit of stubborn fat round the abs so hopefully pro veg will do it ill post some more progress pics up in 4 weeks to let you all know how pro veg days are going thanks...oh and a quick question do you take the peanut butter away on pro veg days... will the drop in carbs by taking pb out take you out of keto

[oddsilence]

Originally Posted by Toshiya

Cardio is king IMO. Add the fasted cardio first and then monitor your progress.

yup...gonna do that from this week...adding 30 mins for the first week...

[jipp]

Originally Posted by ste247

just havin my cheat meal ill prob go a little over 500 carbs as it my last dirty cheat meal on this diet after this week its 1 serving of rice some chicken with skin left on and maybe a small pudding.....iam starting my pro veg days tomorrow every outher day as i only have 8 weeks to my show so i want to come in extra lean anyway i lost another 4lbs this week dirty cheating but want to get rid of the last bit of stubborn fat round the abs so hopefully pro veg will do it ill post some more progress pics up in 4 weeks to let you all know how pro veg days are going thanks...oh and a quick question do you take the peanut butter away on pro veg days... will the drop in carbs by taking pb out take you out of keto

good progress man. of course you would take off the PB on P/V days, as PB has fats. i don't get you on your last question. your asking if dropping your carbs more from eliminating pb get you off keto?

[Steve1971]

why no kectup?

[McGillacutty]

back from Spring Break aaand, FML! I tried to eat decent the 1st few days, but failed miserably. by day 3, I completely just said f it, and ate whatever I wanted. when smoking and drinking 20 hours a day, and sleeping no longer than 3 hours a night (on a good night), eatting healthy is not an easy thing to do.

considering what/how much I ate and drank, in the week since I posted those 7 week progress pics... its not all that bad. Main difference is a little less visibility in cuts on my abs (mainly my lower abs). I'd say in a week or 2 at most, I would get back to my prior progress point.

I am going to be hitting the gym for the 1st time tomorrw after a full detox and recoop today... by Monday I need to decide what I want to do diet-wise going forward. clean bulk for 6 to 8 weeks followed by Palumbo cut again in May is what I am leaning towards.

[McGillacutty]

Originally Posted by Steve1971

why no kectup?

read the ketchup Nutrition Facts... locate "Total Carbohydrates" on label... and there is your answer.

[Steve1971]

thanks man im tryingmyhardest to get cut and ripped abs.they are showing buti need to shed this last litte layer on the bottom..can you help me with my diet...i think i nee d to clean it up more.rite now..its pretty clen no sodas.lots of chicken tuna ,,,with whey drinks three times a day..should i stay away from breads..thanks for your time and hlep..

[HairyScandinavian]

Originally Posted by Steve1971

thanks man im tryingmyhardest to get cut and ripped abs.they are showing buti need to shed this last litte layer on the bottom..can you help me with my diet...i think i nee d to clean it up more.rite now..its pretty clen no sodas.lots of chicken tuna ,,,with whey drinks three times a day..should i stay away from breads..thanks for your time and hlep..

Are you doing *this* diet or just want diet advice in general? If just in general check out the threads in the nutrition forum. If you're asking aboot *this* diet read the first post and just eat exactly what's lined up in there, nothing more and nothing less.

[Steve1971]

thanksand yes i was looking to try something better than what im doing thanks...

[TripTastic]

Originally Posted by McGillacutty

back from Spring Break aaand, FML! I tried to eat decent the 1st few days, but failed miserably. by day 3, I completely just said f it, and ate whatever I wanted. when smoking and drinking 20 hours a day, and sleeping no longer than 3 hours a night (on a good night), eatting healthy is not an easy thing to do.

considering what/how much I ate and drank, in the week since I posted those 7 week progress pics... its not all that bad. Main difference is a little less visibility in cuts on my abs (mainly my lower abs). I'd say in a week or 2 at most, I would get back to my prior progress point.

I am going to be hitting the gym for the 1st time tomorrw after a full detox and recoop today... by Monday I need to decide what I want to do diet-wise going forward. clean bulk for 6 to 8 weeks followed by Palumbo cut again in May is what I am leaning towards.

how was the trip brotha? who got arrested, who got laid, and i am surprised that danielle is here with my roomate.....i was almolst positive that they would have killed eachother by now. Those keto diets do work, and work well, however with your frame I bet you would respond even better to a moderate carb & medium fat approach.

Remember....this is the first time you ever followed any diet whatsoever...the results were dramatic for sure....but now that you are leaned down let's pack on some size!!!!

[McGillacutty]

Originally Posted by TripTastic

how was the trip brotha? who got arrested, who got laid, and i am surprised that danielle is here with my roomate.....i was almolst positive that they would have killed eachother by now. Those keto diets do work, and work well, however with your frame I bet you would respond even better to a moderate carb & medium fat approach.

Remember....this is the first time you ever followed any diet whatsoever...the results were dramatic for sure....but now that you are leaned down let's pack on some size!!!!

the trip was awesome, dude. had a great time... still trying to catch up on my rest though. I was going to go hit the gym tonight, but after that drive and still being beat from the trip, I am going to hold off until tomorrow.

I feel you on the Danielle and Ryan still being together post-trip... there were a few times I had my doubts, especially on the car ride back where I listened to them bitch at each other for 15 or 16 hours straight basically, haha. that is standard protocall for them though, as you very well know...

I will PM you tomorrow and get some more in depth diet advice on what you think I should do going forward... I am all for packing on size. lean and mean (haha) is what I am looking for, but I don't think it is in my genetic potential to get "too big" (aka too bulky for my liking), so packing on all the size I can sounds good to me. after summer (aka pool season) is done with, and I can stop worrying about my abs so much, I will probably try to pack on 10 or 15 lbs for sure. I was about 165 (due to having chicken legs, which I am going to combat with squats and actually lifting legs now) in the final pics before I left, I think if I got to 190 lean at some point, that would be real nice.

I'll shoot you that PM sometime tomorrow, or just stop out at your and Ryan's place soon, and we can try to put something together. I am pumped to get back in the weight room though!

[TripTastic]

Originally Posted by McGillacutty

the trip was awesome, dude. had a great time... still trying to catch up on my rest though. I was going to go hit the gym tonight, but after that drive and still being beat from the trip, I am going to hold off until tomorrow.

I feel you on the Danielle and Ryan still being together post-trip... there were a few times I had my doubts, especially on the car ride back where I listened to them bitch at each other for 15 or 16 hours straight basically, haha. that is standard protocall for them though, as you very well know...

I will PM you tomorrow and get some more in depth diet advice on what you think I should do going forward... I am all for packing on size. lean and mean (haha) is what I am looking for, but I don't think it is in my genetic potential to get "too big" (aka too bulky for my liking), so packing on all the size I can sounds good to me. after summer (aka pool season) is done with, and I can stop worrying about my abs so much, I will probably try to pack on 10 or 15 lbs for sure. I was about 165 (due to having chicken legs, which I am going to combat with squats and actually lifting legs now) in the final pics before I left, I think if I got to 190 lean at some point, that would be real nice.

I'll shoot you that PM sometime tomorrow, or just stop out at your and Ryan's place soon, and we can try to put something together. I am pumped to get back in the weight room though!

sweet dude....lol i haven't seen ryan or danielle yet, but both of their cars were here when i got in. as far as legs go....that's not ryans specialty....if you know the fundamentals just go hard and heavy.

As far as diet advice....you kicked ass for 7 weeks man....really good job. I am about to chew my f'n arm off....and i've only been dieting for a week. From what I've observed of ppl w/ your type of build you guys can still be very lean with some carbohydrates in there....i have to be a lot more careful with them than some, but still eat them during the first 3 meals of the day. Shoot me a pm whenever man....i am prolly gonna stay in tonight anyways....i've got so much **** to do tomorrow + work that it's not even worth it.

[gray_fox224]

I'm having bacon on this program. Is that okay?

[Ethan Carr]

Originally Posted by gray_fox224

I'm having bacon on this program. Is that okay?

For your cheat yes. If you want to do THIS diet then no you shouldn't eat the bacon.

Originally Posted by Ethan Carr

Remember, the diet I suggest has all its components in place for a reason. I constantly get questions of whether a person could follow my diet suggestions and use a bit less fat and one or two small carb meals. The truth is, any diet works if there's a logical plan behind it and if you stick to it. If you add some carbs to my diet and take away some fat, it will no longer be my diet. You're changing the conditions and becaues of that, you won't get the same consistent results I get with my clients. If you add carbs, you'll never get your brain into KETOSIS. If your brain isn't in ketosis, it will constantly be searching for CARBS to use as energy. In the absence of carbs, it will turn muscle into carbs. You'll be moody, hungry, and you'll have energy fluctuations all day long. When in ketosis, your brain is using FATS for energy, so carbs become irrelevant to the brain. Energy levels are stable, moods are stable, and hunger is really a non issue. Also, when carbs are eliminated, so is the FAT STORING hormone INSULIN. NO INSULIN, no FAT STORAGE possible. If you have INSULIN release (because you're eating SOME carbs), you'll have a hormonal drive to store fat that you'll be combatting. Once again, If you change the diet, it doesn't work as effectively. Then, you're just left with the same diet that everyone else does. Hope that helps!

[HairyScandinavian]

Originally Posted by Steve1971

thanksand yes i was looking to try something better than what im doing thanks...

If you decide to do this diet you have to do it 100% or it'll be a huge PITA the whole time. It works great, but it is strict. Putting ketchup on your chicken for example can sometimes be enough to kick the brain out of ketosis and then you've got no energy and you suddenly start to have mad cravings for carbs. Read through the first post and a few pages into the thread, if you still have questions post them up.

Originally Posted by gray_fox224

I'm having bacon on this program. Is that okay?

How are you going to get the correct macros in that meal when you're upside down on fat/protein content? If you want to use bacon as part of your fats and some other sort of protein and you measure them all out to work out the proper macros then it probably won't hurt too much but if you do something like that don't go running around telling people that you tried Dave's diet and it didn't work for you, you'll have to tell them you tried Dave's diet and didn't follow it properly and it didn't work for you.