Cellucor - Q&A - Page 2

MikeCellucor · 02-27-2009, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaymaster613

yea my edocrine sytem is probably not done being fully developed usually at 25 is when it is fully develped for so iv read. I will try the p6 red but will I keep the gains on this oppose to the p6black..?and how good is the estrogen blocker last thing I want is boobs!

Agaricus Bisporus is quite a good anti-aromatase. Clinically researched at that. No boobs on P6 red.

P6 red is a natural test booster/ hormonal optimizer. All your gains will stick. PH's offer a little less of a guarantee, because the PCT has to be perfect. If you stick to my personal PCT protocol of a SERM/P6 red....you can actually maintain, and starting 2 weeks into PCT actually gain! I've had huge amounts of positive feedback thus far.

I applaud you for deciding to wait a while in P6 black...I promise what you will learn over the next few years will maximize how effective PH's will be for you in the future. Don't rush it....

Always welcome to post any questions about training and diet in here as well!

MikeCellucor · 02-27-2009, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by foulhooker

Just finished 4 weeks of P6 Black N-Zero and starting P6 Red M-5 today for 4 weeks. Will take a month off and start a 8 week P6-Black cycle can not wait. The 4 weeks on Black my endurance and strength and been really good for me, looking forward to a full 8 week cycle. It will be my last for this year, I will finish up the summer with a stim free weight loss stack. I get my measurements done in 4 weeks and am looking forward to what they will be.

Nice foul!

Looking forward to your results. I know exactly how you feel on that stack! I ran that back in late Nov. Every lift went up, and I put on some crazy weight. Working on cutting some of that holiday bulk off now.

MikeCellucor · 02-28-2009, 10:58 AM

Just want to post:

We are going to be set-up at the Arnold!! Make sure you stop by if you are there, and say whats up! I should be there as well as a lot of the bodyspace guys like Stevep78, Colton Leaonard, Jason Stevenson, etc...all the shredded badasses Cellucor runs with!

This is going to be an insane weekend.

osubuck · 03-03-2009, 08:37 PM

Mike,
Will there be a Cellucor booth at the Arnold Classic? I'm looking to start the Muscle Growth Stack and adding the Thermal Shock.

The_Rev · 03-08-2009, 01:51 PM

Can I stack the P6 Red with the P6 Black? Aside from the estrogen blocker, are they're any results by stacking the two?

MikeCellucor · 03-11-2009, 12:27 PM

Some have stacked both, and seen some serious size, and possibly ( without having the blood work to test) an easier PCT, but the cost is what prohibits the stack for some.

I used it like this...

2 caps P6 black x 2 daily
Every 2-3 days I would pop 5 caps of P6 red...

My result was 13lbs, and then another 5-6lbs during PCT. I held every damn ounce!

PCT is really important. Worst case run black...then red for PCT ( throw in a SERM if you can...)

MikeCellucor · 03-11-2009, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by osubuck

Mike,
Will there be a Cellucor booth at the Arnold Classic? I'm looking to start the Muscle Growth Stack and adding the Thermal Shock.

I was there...did you catch me? I just got my voice back today!

Hopefully you played some PLinko and won a free kit!

Anyone else go?

foulhooker · 03-12-2009, 06:05 PM

Ok, before I started I was 196lbs after the 4 weeks of p6 black I was 201lbs. Just had the numbers done on my 3rd week of pct of P6 Red I weighed 198.5 and went from 19.7% bf to 17.5 bf%. I posted the rest of my measurments on my body space. I have been trainning for 2 years this March 22nd and was never really heavy but never had much muscle, I just wanted to give a little back ground.

MikeCellucor · 03-12-2009, 11:15 PM

Sounds like you recomp'd ( gained muscle while losing BF%).

Nicely done...I would say for your age range 8 weeks would be the best bet next time. It takes a little bit longer to get things rolling, and the sweet spot is usually around weeks 3-7 or so....

If you want just hit up a Lean Mass Kit, and you'll keep the strength gains, and continue the recomp! Let me know how PCT goes.

Galmo · 03-13-2009, 02:04 PM

Can you expect good results from 1 cycle of M-5 extreme? And that is only good for 36 days (36 packets)?

I just can't afford this for more than 2 months and I feel like it might be a waste...

I'm definitely going to try it though for 1 cycle and update my results. Any advice to give me while taking this to maximize the full results?

alans0830 · 03-13-2009, 09:26 PM

Hey Mike,

Great thread, thanks!

I'm trying to take out 2 birds with one stone by building mass while losing fat. Is there any specific mix of Cellucor products you would suggest?

Also, are people keeping gains after coming off Cellucor?

MikeCellucor · 03-14-2009, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Galmo

Can you expect good results from 1 cycle of M-5 extreme? And that is only good for 36 days (36 packets)?

I just can't afford this for more than 2 months and I feel like it might be a waste...

I'm definitely going to try it though for 1 cycle and update my results. Any advice to give me while taking this to maximize the full results?

Well, you could stretch it out to just 1 packet on workout days. I would suggest a serving of Kre-alkalyn pills on your off days though...

You have to realize that this is like taking a pre-workout NO product, Kre-alkalyn, and a sustained release NO product ( since we include precursors for the complete nitric oxide pathway), and on top a natural GH and inuslin boost to make sure you are maximizing recovery via post workout nutrition.

I think with the just workout day dosing you should be able to achieve 80% of the results of the once daily dosing.

Hows that sound?

MikeCellucor · 03-14-2009, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by alans0830

Hey Mike,

Great thread, thanks!

I'm trying to take out 2 birds with one stone by building mass while losing fat. Is there any specific mix of Cellucor products you would suggest?

Also, are people keeping gains after coming off Cellucor?

Keeping gains is what its all about. Especially, when you run the Mass Kits. You are not bloating out on water, and other sugar based supps that put on the 7lbs in 2 weeks. Whatever you gain on our products is lean, and legit. Some do add 2-3lbs if they are very dehydrated or have never used Kre-alkalyn, but 30-60days is more than adequate time to adapt the body to those few new lbs.

I would suggest the Lean Mass Kit. Its Nzero, p6, and R3. You could add in 1 packet of M5 each workout day as well if you budget affords it.

We also just released our 3lb bags of our MRP/post workout powder. All the info will be up ASAP, and Ill do a special post about it as well.

I have a lot of write-up, and info posts to do in the next few weeks. The Arnold threw a wrench in my timeline, hehe.

I personally gained 32lbs in 32 weeks with the M5 Extreme growth Stack. I ran the P6 portion of it 8 weeks on...8 weeks off...

I added in Nzero the next 4 weeks ( 33-36) and dropped 2% bodyfat resulting in my Results pics from my profile.

I then ran a cycle of P6 black with M5 and R3. I gained another 13 on cycle, and then another 5-6lbs in PCT.

I topped off a lil over 280 at exactly 14 months using Cellucor Products. 50+ lbs in a tad over a year!

I just was a groomsmen for my best friends wedding, and everyone I grew up with was asking me what the hell I was on...

( havent seen anyone since 07).

I guess I need to see if I have a friends and family discount available, lol.

ilkyspony · 03-17-2009, 08:04 PM

First off I want to say thanks to Cellucor for sending me my FREE Extreme Energy Weight Loss System!!

Ok, now to my questions....

I usually work out about 1pm or 2pm and I take a pre-workout NO Booster before hand. How can I safely incorporate this system into my regiment? The directions call for morning, mid-morning, and mid-afternoon. How would this work with the timing of my training? How about planning it around meals or with meals?

If you need more information to fully answer my questions just say so! Thanks again!!

MikeCellucor · 03-18-2009, 12:53 AM

I would dose the D4 thermal shock with breakfast ( 1 cap to start) and lunch ( 1 cap to start). 1 cap is usually enough to get rolling. Take your T7 and Ws1 with breakfast and lunch as well ( 2 caps T7 am....1 cap lunch) ( 2 caps WS1 breakfast and 2 caps lunch). This should be a good dosing for your bodyweight. You could use the WS1 with dinner or pre-bed if you wanted as well.

You can use your NO booster with the other supps, but just realize you have a lot of caffeine in D4 thermal shock already so just bare that in mind.

I usually suggest 1 packet of M5 or 1 packet of N0 with 1 cap of D4 thermal shock, and everyone who loves a stim rush with the NO boost gives me great feedback on that.

So just use 1 serving of your NO product if it has caffeine in it, and 1 cap of D4 thermal shock. If it doesnt have caffeine than don't worry about it, and dose away.

If you want when you are done. Call up Steve at the Results Team, and ask for some samples of M5 and Nzero. I do 1 packet of each and I have seen great lean gains...while slowly dropping BF%. I do that while cycling P6 red every 8 weeks. Best results in my life. I am 270 at around 10.5% now...and my diet isn't even perfect. Just tell him you talked to Mike U. that way he knows you contacted me through bodyspace.

Congrats on the free kit!! Also, on using the Official Q&A!! ....

foulhooker · 03-18-2009, 07:12 PM

Ok, I am in the last 5 days of pct of my firts PH cycle and have been very pleased. I only did a 4 week cycle to see how my body would react.

I spoke with Steve at Cellucor today and ordered 2 P6 Black 2 R3 1 Nzero since I already had 1 and 2 P6 Red and will start the 8 week cycle at the end of April. I will also add Clomid during PCT with the P6 Red and M5. I will post my dosages when it gets closer to the time.

mjohn1985 · 03-19-2009, 03:15 PM

I am currently on my second container of M5 and loving the results I am getting. I want to gain 5 more lbs of lean muscle. I was thinking about trying the Lean Mass stack offered by Cellucor along with the NO. Would that be enough or should I also stack with P6? I also read above where you suggested not to touch P6 until after age 25. Is that right?

MikeCellucor · 03-19-2009, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by mjohn1985

I am currently on my second container of M5 and loving the results I am getting. I want to gain 5 more lbs of lean muscle. I was thinking about trying the Lean Mass stack offered by Cellucor along with the NO. Would that be enough or should I also stack with P6? I also read above where you suggested not to touch P6 until after age 25. Is that right?

Well, P6 Black is a PH that I suggest waiting till 25. 23 is probably just fine. Just make sure you plan a proper PCT using P6 red preferably and a SERM for insurance. If you need more info on SERMS just PM me.

Your military? Make sure you PM me if you are I'd like to make sure you get taken care of especially if you are active duty! I have two years of USO under my belt playing in a band so it would be my pleasure to help you out.

Yeah an Extreme Muscle Growth Kit + a can of Nzero will def. put more like 10lbs on you, IMO. Especially if you are eating and training your butt off.

That is my personal stack coming in the next 2 weeks after my PCT is over.

ilkyspony · 03-20-2009, 11:06 PM

Well, I took your advice with taking just 1 capsule of the D4 to start with. I was kinda disappointed after reading that people were feeling the effects of a single pill infact, I fell asleep afterwards.

Soooo.... On day 2 I amped up to the full dosage and I'm still not too shocked at how i'm reacting. Don't get me wrong, the kick is there, but I guess I was expecting too much since I've been known to do that.

Now on to my question. I got a few packets of the NZero while at the Arnold Classic and I want to try them out. Hopefully they'll convince me to buy it since I reaalllyyy want a Cellucor t-shirt lol and I'm hoping I can convince 'em to send me one with my order. With all the NO boosters I've used (ie NO-xplode, NO-Shotgun, and Juggernaut ) I've had to double dose or come really close. Since this is the case, would it be better to just take 2 packs of the NZero? I'm a real stickler for not wasting a good pump during a work out. And I DEFINITELY do not want to put a bad first impression in my head. What are your thoughts?

PS: I also got packets of M5.... would I be able to use one of them with one NZero for a good result?

MikeCellucor · 03-22-2009, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ilkyspony

Well, I took your advice with taking just 1 capsule of the D4 to start with. I was kinda disappointed after reading that people were feeling the effects of a single pill infact, I fell asleep afterwards.

Soooo.... On day 2 I amped up to the full dosage and I'm still not too shocked at how i'm reacting. Don't get me wrong, the kick is there, but I guess I was expecting too much since I've been known to do that.

Now on to my question. I got a few packets of the NZero while at the Arnold Classic and I want to try them out. Hopefully they'll convince me to buy it since I reaalllyyy want a Cellucor t-shirt lol and I'm hoping I can convince 'em to send me one with my order. With all the NO boosters I've used (ie NO-xplode, NO-Shotgun, and Juggernaut ) I've had to double dose or come really close. Since this is the case, would it be better to just take 2 packs of the NZero? I'm a real stickler for not wasting a good pump during a work out. And I DEFINITELY do not want to put a bad first impression in my head. What are your thoughts?

PS: I also got packets of M5.... would I be able to use one of them with one NZero for a good result?

If it was D4 Thermal Shock...than you are stim resistant for sure. You might want to pop a couple of benadryl before bed at night, and try to increase your beta 2 sensitivity.

For now...I'd say that you could rock 1 cap of Thermal Shock, 1 packet of Nzero, and start there. I can't imagine you would have an issue with that dosing. If you really want Take the M5 earlier in the day and then do the suggested dosing above.

Its rare, but some guys don't react strongly to Thermal Shock, but usuall because of an adrenal burnout, and or building up a tolerance via beta 2's. Kind of like what you hear with Clenbuterol....

bizzlewood · 03-22-2009, 09:54 AM

I'm in Subbed

MikeCellucor · 03-22-2009, 10:00 AM

Also, The idead of getting all stimmed out in my opinion is the wrong way to go about looking at these products.

Bodyheat, sweating, app suppression are all indicators as well of thermogenisis.

Also, with N.O. based produts. Its really about pump/swell, but also muscular contractions. You should be able to squeeze the muscle your working, and get a good contraction out of it with almost every rep.

M5 and Nzero do this better than anything in my opinion. Getting stimmed out, and pump up without being able to contract your muscle effeciently will def. inhibit results, especially if you are trying to gain lean mass, and or cut body fat.

I always say concentrate of the muscle contractions, and feel the muscle fibers tearing. A lot of people never go back to othe products, because once they experience that feeling. They realize they were focusing on the caffiene over the contraction.

As someone who has gone from 215 to 283 ( cut to 270 since march started) I can tell you the contraction is more important. It was like an on switch for muscle growth. I thank Jason Stevenson our sponsored Master Pro for giving me that advice. Also, to all the old school BB'rs like Zane and Arnold etc... who preached the pump and contraction. BLOOD FLOW!!! hehe

Iron Cross · 03-22-2009, 12:54 PM

Mike,

Great thread man, just saw it, and IMO this is what Cellucor needs. Ton's and ton's of great excellent information in here.

I've been using Cellucor products for about a year now and if anybody has any training or diet questions please feel free to PM me, and I'll be more than happy to help you out.

MikeCellucor · 03-22-2009, 01:27 PM

Hey Zack....bout time you found this thread, lol.

Just for the back story. Zack had won Mr. West Virginia a few months back, and I ran into him at an event at GNC South in Parkersburg.

He had used 3 mass kits, and then I believe the D4 line in the last 4 weeks or so....

He was sponsored by Gnc South and not Cellucor, and his results and his amazing story landed him an official sponsorship with Cellucor.

After meeting him and talking to him there was just no doubt he was on another level, and the fact he did it all natural, and used Cellucor to give him the extra edge....was a really inspiring story for me personally. I think I went out an gained another 13-15lbs int he next 2 months.

I mean I have a foot on Zack and only about 65lbs!!! What does that tell you ...he's a BEAST! lol...

I actualy got to train at his gym 3 weeks ago. Awesome town and gym as well.

TNote · 03-22-2009, 02:08 PM

Why isn't this in the Company Promo section?

Iron Cross · 03-22-2009, 02:19 PM

Exactly, as Mike stated when I first started my cut for my show I had no idea about Cellucor or who they were, never even heard of them. My first sponsor GNC South here in parkersburg suggested I give it a try.

During my 12 week cut I used the Extreme Mass Kit (M5, P6, R3) and for the final six weeks added D4. I weighed in the night before at 149lbs, I had people coming up to me that night and back stage asking me how much I weighed and what class I was in. When I told them 149lbs and in the leightweights no one could believe it. Everyone said I looked like I weighed anywhere from 170 to 190 and I contribute alot of that to Cellucor.

It is a great opportunity to be sponsored by and work with a company like Cellucor, again if anyone has any kind of training questions feel free to PM me!

MikeCellucor · 03-22-2009, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TNote

Why isn't this in the Company Promo section?

We are not an official BB.com sponsored company. They are nice enough to give Cellucor our own thread to handle the majority of information via Cellucor instead getting in the way of the promoted companies. There was an ex-employee of Cellucor who mishandled a lot of info on here, and the flame wars were against him not Cellucor. So, I took over the online information job. Every rep who asked me to not post in the promo section seems to be aye ok with this thread.

foulhooker · 03-25-2009, 11:50 AM

I just wanted to post some progress pics of my 4 week P6 Black cycle. I will be starting the stim free weight loss cycle on Fri and will post the results when done.

MikeCellucor · 03-27-2009, 10:06 PM

Dose abs be sproutin!! hehe....

Make sure you throw in some HIIT cardio with the stim free kit. Because, you are not using a thermogenic like D4 you have to crank up the calorie burning a little more with the cardio sessions. Plus, HIIT cardio ( intervals) actually can help you increase muscle mass. Win Win!

MikeCellucor · 03-29-2009, 01:23 PM

Hey, I just want to throw some props out to two guys who are really making a name for themselves, and have some of the best physiques around. Both of them gave Cellucor a chance to help them with their goals, and careers, and I am truly honored to have them aboard, and their feedback has been absolutely essential in bringing newer dosings, combinations, and creating great new ideas for future supps, and formula updates.

When you got guys who already are super tuned into their body, and they can use your product, and give it two thumbs up, nothing says more!

These two guys are JoshBme, and Stevep78. There many others like Batlats, Musclez99, etc...(anyone I am not mentioning don't feel offended!!) These guys are just really going full steam forward in their careers, and I wanted to make special mention. Also, Steve says he can have me sliced and diced for the summer! Im going to take him up on the offer, and I invite you guys to hit him up, and follow me along the Shred super highway! , haha!

JoshBme
http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/JoshBme/
- Josh Englehart - Photo Spread in Mens Health for April!! Congrats! Also, check out all his youtube videos for tips and tricks from the pro! There is some real down to earth advice, and Josh is an obvious example of the results of the advice he gives. He now is one of our Elite Spokespersons, and I believe if all goes well will be joining us in Orlando Florida for the Europa Show.

SteveP78
http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/stevep78/
- Not only was he one of the first to come aboard, but he also showed us what our product line can do with someone who was already at 6% BF and ripped! We have seen a lot of transformations, but Steve's training routines and diet with Cellucor as the icing on the cake has brought him some major attention for http://www.fitnesspoynters.com/ . If you want to know how to use Cellucor with Ideal Training and Nutrition he is your man. Just check out his bodyspace client. Half of them are in the Top 6 for the females

Also, some of you might remember him from the Cellucor booth at the Arnold.