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Black Coffee + 2 packets of splenda = good/bad?
I was reading the nutritional label on the splenda box when i noticed that the ingredients are maltodextrin, dextrose and sucralose.
Now my question is, for my non-carb up meal, such as a cup of coffee (black) on a regular day, is splenda okay? I always thought the glycemic index of maltodextrin was pretty high, or am i missing something. I just started this past week drinking coffee with splenda under the assumption that it was okay.
Thanks for the info.
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03-11-2009, 05:48 PM
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I need some opinions on my supplements. Is this a good schedule for them?
Meal 1: 7-keto, HMB
Meal 2:
Meal 3:
Meal 4 (preworkout):7-Keto, HMB, Animal Pak
15 min before workout: 2 scoops vasocharge
during workout/during post workout cardio: 4 scoops Xtend
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Meal 6: HMB
Empty stomach before bed: 3 capsules of ZMA
And on off days i drink creaform before meal 4 and before meal 6. No vasocharge on off days. What do you guys think? Oh and my brother had great results a couple years ago with the ZMA, 7-Keto, HMB stack.. so I'm giving it a go
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03-11-2009, 07:57 PM
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I could really use a cross reference...
Been on this for 3 weeks and havent lost weight. Im about 165 with about 11-13%BF. Now, using the formula, i am set to use the 2500cal plan.
But my biggest question is, when i calculate my caloric intake, am I supposed to use my actual weight or my Lean Body Mass?
If i just use my actual weight(which is what i AM using now) should i jump down a step to the 2250cal plan?
PS im using the routine from the book and doing cardio on every of the 5 lifting days like it says for 30min at 3.5-4mph.
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03-11-2009, 08:14 PM
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MAXX. First thing is first. Increase cardio to 35 mins and see if anything moves.
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03-11-2009, 09:31 PM
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MAXX. First thing is first. Increase cardio to 35 mins and see if anything moves.
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K! Ill start on that tomorrow....But is that your way of saying that i calculated my caloric intake correctly, as well?
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03-12-2009, 03:41 AM
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Originally Posted by getnfit2007
Last meal is between 8-8.30. Unless it weds. then it like (looks at ceiling) 10pm. I do watch TV, if I don't fall asleep within 15 mins. Timing on meals 7am, 9.30am, 11.30am, 2.30pm, 5.30pm and 8. Routines at home after work, immediately 45 mins. threadmil with xtend 2 scoops, eat, relax a bit, then out to meetings till about 9.30 at night. I take sludge with me to eat, when away from the house in the evenings. Mental Health is much better now that i quit drinking. As far as the home front, another story...
Does that help?
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I would try something like reading before bed instead of watching TV. The waves convince your body that it's actually light outside, and so it takes you longer to fall asleep because it messes with your cycle.
And remember, there's nothing wrong with taking knockout. It may be helpful in the short term just to establish sleep patterns and habits. Then, when you have those down, and convince your body you get tired at the same time everyday, you can take yourself off Knockout.
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Originally Posted by Idragmazda
I was reading the nutritional label on the splenda box when i noticed that the ingredients are maltodextrin, dextrose and sucralose.
Now my question is, for my non-carb up meal, such as a cup of coffee (black) on a regular day, is splenda okay? I always thought the glycemic index of maltodextrin was pretty high, or am i missing something. I just started this past week drinking coffee with splenda under the assumption that it was okay.
Thanks for the info.
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Nothing wrong with a little Splenda in moderation. THe about of malto isn't enough to spike your insulin. It's negligable.
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I need some opinions on my supplements. Is this a good schedule for them?
Meal 1: 7-keto, HMB
Meal 2:
Meal 3:
Meal 4 (preworkout):7-Keto, HMB, Animal Pak
15 min before workout: 2 scoops vasocharge
during workout/during post workout cardio: 4 scoops Xtend
Meal 5:
Meal 6: HMB
Empty stomach before bed: 3 capsules of ZMA
And on off days i drink creaform before meal 4 and before meal 6. No vasocharge on off days. What do you guys think? Oh and my brother had great results a couple years ago with the ZMA, 7-Keto, HMB stack.. so I'm giving it a go 
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Why take the animal pak pre workout?
I would add EFAs/Fish oils to your stack. GREAT for fat loss, heart health, etc.
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Originally Posted by maxx052188
I could really use a cross reference...
Been on this for 3 weeks and havent lost weight. Im about 165 with about 11-13%BF. Now, using the formula, i am set to use the 2500cal plan.
But my biggest question is, when i calculate my caloric intake, am I supposed to use my actual weight or my Lean Body Mass?
If i just use my actual weight(which is what i AM using now) should i jump down a step to the 2250cal plan?
PS im using the routine from the book and doing cardio on every of the 5 lifting days like it says for 30min at 3.5-4mph.
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Start with 2500...if you gain, or plateau, drop down to 2250
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03-12-2009, 09:34 AM
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Thanks J, will give it a try, without the knockout for now.
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03-12-2009, 02:43 PM
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I take the animal pak pre because im getting all the vitamines for the day, and it has b6 for energy. Just an extra pump i guess.. but does everything else look good? I might try some of the EFAs/Fish oils in a couple months when i order a new stack.
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03-12-2009, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by getnfit2007
Thanks J, will give it a try, without the knockout for now.
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Sometimes some Hot Tea may do the trick, but once you settle into a daily night routine your body becomes accusomsted and gets use to falling alseep.
Try keeping the lights dim, volume down at night and see how it plays out.
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03-13-2009, 11:37 AM
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I finally remembered to type up some questions I've been meaning to ask. I'm hoping you guys can help me out. I'm on the 3500 diet right now. 246 lbs mesomorph with high BF. Not competing, just want to drop the BF.
What would you suggest would be the best way I could track my BF%? I've been using AccuMeasure calipers (1 site) which put me at 24.1% but I had a PT give me a 3 point analysis and his gave me 17.7 +- 2%. That's not even close to the same!
To get it straight, the normal 2 hrs between meals is from end of one meal to first bite of the next?
The 3500 diet calls for 7 meals a day. I never seem to be able to get more then 5 in, maybe 6. Should I be redistributing the macros for the day into 5 meals or shorten the time between meals to say, 1.5 hours?
If 5 meals is ok, should carb up meal be every 4 days(21 meals)?
Is 7 days a week of cardio ok? 45 min, low intensity.
The book mentions a heart rate of 130-150 for low intensity but fat burn HR is 65% of 220 minus age (127 for me). Should I be aiming for at least HR 130? Should I be doing 150?
I know this is a serious, competition cut diet and should just be followed as written. However, I am curious as to how sensitive it is to disruption. An ounce of milk in your coffee or 1 bite of a friends fresh baked cookies, will that throw me off to much? How about 4 cookies?  (I skipped carb meal that cycle)
Sorry for throwing this all out at once but I appreciate it guys.
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03-13-2009, 07:27 PM
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REPS TO THE FIRST PERSON TO TELL ME THE EQUIVALANCE OF 1.33 CUPS OF SPINACH TO GRAMS OF BROCCOLI AND GREEN BEANS
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03-13-2009, 08:08 PM
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REPS TO THE FIRST PERSON TO TELL ME THE EQUIVALANCE OF 1.33 CUPS OF SPINACH TO GRAMS OF BROCCOLI AND GREEN BEANS
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125 g green beans
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03-14-2009, 07:57 AM
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need some advice...
hi my name is adelfo "jay" cerame jr. i am a wheelchair bodybuilder. i am currently less than 2 weeks out from the wheelchair nationals in palm beach florida on march 21st. this will be my second compettition but my first wheelchair national show. i have not been following your cut diet program because i only ran into your site a couple weeks ago through brian whitacres web page because his physique is what i am trying to achieve. during my training i have been reading alot of your online books and it makes sense. after my competition, i am going to go on your lean mass diet. i like the fact that i can stay shredded and lean while gaining lean mass. then i will use your cut diet when i prepare for another show... and i also wanted to know if i can just jump into your routine and refeeds for my peak week, or should i just stick to the diet im doing right now since i didnt follow the cut diet?... like i said i would have followed this philosophy if i would have found out earlier during my training prep....
here is some current pics of me less than 2 weeks out before nationals... tell me what you think if i can still follow your peak week program?...
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03-14-2009, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by jj562
i also wanted to know if i can just jump into your routine and refeeds for my peak week, or should i just stick to the diet im doing right now since i didnt follow the cut diet?... like i said i would have followed this philosophy if i would have found out earlier during my training prep....
here is some current pics of me less than 2 weeks out before nationals... tell me what you think if i can still follow your peak week program?...
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Jay, you look un-friggin-believeable! Your conditioning is amazing!!!
I think you could definitely follow the Game Over peak weel plan, and it would help dial you in for sure. If you want, e-mail derek@scivation.com or rob@scivation.com and they can help talk you through the process.
We'll definitely help keep you lean this offseason!
Best of luck with your show!
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03-15-2009, 09:25 PM
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Would Lipolyze enhance the fat loss effects or is it not advisable? What about CLA? Would it have any effect or just be a waste of money?
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03-15-2009, 10:55 PM
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The 1200 calorie meal 1 states:
8 egg whites
1 whole egg
1.33 cup steamed spinach
6 almonds
6.5 oz PEELED ruby red grapefruit or 99g blueberries
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35g protein, 25g carbohydrates, 10g fat
How is it that 8 egg whites and 1 whole egg only add up to 35g of protein? Large eggs are 6g protein, xl are 7. with 9 egg whites total, they'd have to be less than 3g of protein a piece. And that's not to mention the protein from the almonds (albeit a tiny bit).
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03-16-2009, 06:09 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mickapoo
The 1200 calorie meal 1 states:
8 egg whites
1 whole egg
1.33 cup steamed spinach
6 almonds
6.5 oz PEELED ruby red grapefruit or 99g blueberries
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35g protein, 25g carbohydrates, 10g fat
How is it that 8 egg whites and 1 whole egg only add up to 35g of protein? Large eggs are 6g protein, xl are 7. with 9 egg whites total, they'd have to be less than 3g of protein a piece. And that's not to mention the protein from the almonds (albeit a tiny bit).
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Its actually 8 egg whites x 4 grams pro = 32 + 6 which = 38. Off by a few give or take on the eggs used. On the CD we dont count the protein in the fat source (almonds). Everything is relative as the diet decreases in cals. Hope this helps.
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03-16-2009, 06:30 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RUBICON19
Its actually 8 egg whites x 4 grams pro = 32 + 6 which = 38. Off by a few give or take on the eggs used. On the CD we dont count the protein in the fat source (almonds). Everything is relative as the diet decreases in cals. Hope this helps. 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jj562
hi my name is adelfo "jay" cerame jr. i am a wheelchair bodybuilder. i am currently less than 2 weeks out from the wheelchair nationals in palm beach florida on march 21st. this will be my second compettition but my first wheelchair national show. i have not been following your cut diet program because i only ran into your site a couple weeks ago through brian whitacres web page because his physique is what i am trying to achieve. during my training i have been reading alot of your online books and it makes sense. after my competition, i am going to go on your lean mass diet. i like the fact that i can stay shredded and lean while gaining lean mass. then i will use your cut diet when i prepare for another show... and i also wanted to know if i can just jump into your routine and refeeds for my peak week, or should i just stick to the diet im doing right now since i didnt follow the cut diet?... like i said i would have followed this philosophy if i would have found out earlier during my training prep....
here is some current pics of me less than 2 weeks out before nationals... tell me what you think if i can still follow your peak week program?...
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Follow the Peak week format. I just completed it for my very first show and the results were incredible. Simple to follow and extremely thorough.
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03-16-2009, 08:13 AM
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Would Lipolyze enhance the fat loss effects or is it not advisable? What about CLA? Would it have any effect or just be a waste of money?
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The lipolyze would be a waste. I would recommend using CLA. It has a lot of benefits besides just enhancing fat loss. I use Primaforce Max CLA. Utilizing the CD plan will maximize your fat loss without adding the lipolyze.
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03-16-2009, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by RUBICON19
Its actually 8 egg whites x 4 grams pro = 32 + 6 which = 38. Off by a few give or take on the eggs used. On the CD we dont count the protein in the fat source (almonds). Everything is relative as the diet decreases in cals. Hope this helps. 
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Trying not to be dumb as a rock but what kind of egg white only has 4 grams of protein?
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The lipolyze would be a waste. I would recommend using CLA. It has a lot of benefits besides just enhancing fat loss. I use Primaforce Max CLA. Utilizing the CD plan will maximize your fat loss without adding the lipolyze.
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Thanks!
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03-16-2009, 02:20 PM
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Trying not to be dumb as a rock but what kind of egg white only has 4 grams of protein?
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Almost any large egg white
http://www.calorieking.com/foods/cal...B3aGl0ZXM.html
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Well that's really strange because the eggs in the cartons I have say 7g in XL eggs, and 6g protein in large eggs. Crap. That means without subtracting the protein from the yolk I've been way off on my protein intake. I don't know why I was under the impression that the yolks were 100% fat, and all the protein came from the white of the egg.
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03-16-2009, 07:39 PM
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Cut Diet- Injury
Question.
I did the Cut diet a year ago, enjoyed the results. So after booking a vacation I decided to do it again.
However I was trying out the Tri-Phrase Workout. Wanted to continue so I did the Tri-Phease workout routine with the Cut Diet.
Week 5 of the Tri-Phrase is heavy weight, 4 rebs. This was week 3 for me on the Cut Diet. Well I guess I did to much weight. I felt something pop in my chest. Doubt my chest is pulled, think I just strained the muscle. Judging by the pain I know I'm done lifting for at least two weeks.
My question is, diet wise. Should I continue the diet as is or make some changes?
Currently doing the 2,500 calorie Cut Diet from Vol 4.
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03-16-2009, 08:03 PM
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I've read that, "We recommend obtaining your carbohydrates in every meal (not including the carbohydrate meal) from leafy green vegetables and grapefruit. " But then it says, "Stick to salads, fresh vegetables and healthy nuts and oils.". When it has the breakdown for my calories, it doesn't say anything about having grapefruit for every meal.
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So I take it that cardio must be done pre or pwo, not at a different time of day (i.e. work out in the morning, cardio in the evening).
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03-16-2009, 08:23 PM
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Well that's really strange because the eggs in the cartons I have say 7g in XL eggs, and 6g protein in large eggs. Crap. That means without subtracting the protein from the yolk I've been way off on my protein intake. I don't know why I was under the impression that the yolks were 100% fat, and all the protein came from the white of the egg.
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Right. The whole egg is 6 for large or 7 for XL..
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Question.
I did the Cut diet a year ago, enjoyed the results. So after booking a vacation I decided to do it again.
However I was trying out the Tri-Phrase Workout. Wanted to continue so I did the Tri-Phease workout routine with the Cut Diet.
Week 5 of the Tri-Phrase is heavy weight, 4 rebs. This was week 3 for me on the Cut Diet. Well I guess I did to much weight. I felt something pop in my chest. Doubt my chest is pulled, think I just strained the muscle. Judging by the pain I know I'm done lifting for at least two weeks.
My question is, diet wise. Should I continue the diet as is or make some changes?
Currently doing the 2,500 calorie Cut Diet from Vol 4.
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Continue with the CD. Its a great diet. As far as what calorie amount.. well we would need your current stats
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mickapoo
I've read that, "We recommend obtaining your carbohydrates in every meal (not including the carbohydrate meal) from leafy green vegetables and grapefruit. " But then it says, "Stick to salads, fresh vegetables and healthy nuts and oils.". When it has the breakdown for my calories, it doesn't say anything about having grapefruit for every meal.
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Grapefruit is in meal 1 and meal 5 in most of the CD menus written in the book.
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