Military Talk

[TheDukeUSMC]

Originally Posted by powerlifter70

I assume some sarcasm in that question but just in case....NCO's just have no excuse. They must set the example and lead the way.

Now Soldiers know better also but I will make an example of them so others might think about what will happen if they make the same f**k up.

A slight bit. I posted my other responses. I do agree harsh treatment should be in order for that after thinking it over.

I do know of Staff NCO's who have been dropped down as well as NCO's, some gain it back though.

[powerlifter70]

Originally Posted by TheDukeUSMC

A slight bit. I posted my other responses. I do agree harsh treatment should be in order for that after thinking it over.

I do know of Staff NCO's who have been dropped down as well as NCO's, some gain it back though.

Yeah...I posted before I read your other posts. There are some things that NCO's can make mistakes on but as for a DWI/DUI...there is no excuse. Its pretty simple...dont drink and drive.

[TheDukeUSMC]

Originally Posted by powerlifter70

Yeah...I posted before I read your other posts. There are some things that NCO's can make mistakes on but as for a DWI/DUI...there is no excuse. Its pretty simple...dont drink and drive.

This is true.

[-Ironside-]

I don't believe that's harsh at all.
My no longer buddy is rotting in prison right now for killing a roadside worker while drinking and driving. Kid was something like 19 and was working late night construction.
Because of this NCO a civilian who just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time was killed, something that was completely avoidable.
This wasn't his first offense DUI either. Therefore the punishment prior was not harsh enough.

Is ASAP mandatory for DUI offenders?

[HELIX35]

Originally Posted by -Ironside-

I don't believe that's harsh at all.
My no longer buddy is rotting in prison right now for killing a roadside worker while drinking and driving. Kid was something like 19 and was working late night construction.
Because of this NCO a civilian who just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time was killed, something that was completely avoidable.
This wasn't his first offense DUI either. Therefore the punishment prior was not harsh enough.

Is ASAP mandatory for DUI offenders?

That right there is why I advocate the harshest possible punishments every time for drunk driving.

If you go out and get yourself killed that's unfortunate, but it was your choice. But you are puting the lives of innocent people in danger, and that I absolutely will not tolerate.

[1stindoor]

Originally Posted by powerlifter70

If you are a Soldier in my unit....

Where have you been hiding brother? Haven't seen you online in awhile. Hope your doing well and staying safe.

[1stindoor]

Originally Posted by -Ironside-

Is ASAP mandatory for DUI offenders?

It is in my unit. But I can't say for sure if it's Army wide.

[Ladyblue14424]

Can an older Lady Marine jump in here..served in the 70's ..73-78..

"At least you weren't in for WWII. Most of those guys couldn't even walk onto the planes. Had to get up the steps on their knees"

used to be the way Paratroopers insulted the other soldiers...called 'em Straight legs"....they guys had so much gear on they had bowed legs all the time

Nice ride C-Kent

[1stindoor]

Originally Posted by Ladyblue14424

Can an older Lady Marine jump in here..served in the 70's ..73-78..

"At least you weren't in for WWII. Most of those guys couldn't even walk onto the planes. Had to get up the steps on their knees"

used to be the way Paratroopers insulted the other soldiers...called 'em Straight legs"....they guys had so much gear on they had bowed legs all the time

Nice ride C-Kent

Any lady...especially a "former" Marine can jump into this thread. Thank you for your service. Especially during that time, post Viet Nam, big drawdown, low pay, etc. My father served during the same time frame, I remember it well. When Reagan was elected and the pay jumped it was a very happy time in our household.

Just so you know, those of us that jump, and do so with combat equipment, we still have trouble sometimes getting onboard the aircraft. My heaviest ruck to date was in the early 90's...119 lbs. I spent 10 days in a hidesite, with only what I could carry in. It was not a fun trip. lol.

Welcome to the thread Ladyblue.

[powerlifter70]

Originally Posted by 1stindoor

Where have you been hiding brother? Haven't seen you online in awhile. Hope your doing well and staying safe.

What's going on brother! I have had a lot of crap going on. I got medevac'd out of Jalalabad at the end of Jan this year. I am now at Ft Lewis for treatment until I am fit for duty. It was discovered that I had a blood clot in my leg and with the meds they put me on, one can not be in a position where they may bleed...so here I sit in a freekin office job for a while!

Hell....I forgot they had a military thread going here.

[1stindoor]

Originally Posted by powerlifter70

What's going on brother! I have had a lot of crap going on. I got medevac'd out of Jalalabad at the end of Jan this year. I am now at Ft Lewis for treatment until I am fit for duty. It was discovered that I had a blood clot in my leg and with the meds they put me on, one can not be in a position where they may bleed...so here I sit in a freekin office job for a while!

Hell....I forgot they had a military thread going here.

The medevac was from the discovery of the bloodclot I hope and not because someone decided you needed another orafice....J-Bad can be an unhappy place sometimes.

Well suck up the office job for now, God knows, I've been doing the same...it's driving me insane. Sadly though I'm at the point in my career where I don't have much more to look forward to. I'm making the big trek to Taco Tech in the summer. Jump in here and the Army thread every so often. It'll be nice to see another familar face with some years under the rucksack.

[powerlifter70]

Originally Posted by 1stindoor

The medevac was from the discovery of the bloodclot I hope and not because someone decided you needed another orafice....J-Bad can be an unhappy place sometimes.

Well suck up the office job for now, God knows, I've been doing the same...it's driving me insane. Sadly though I'm at the point in my career where I don't have much more to look forward to. I'm making the big trek to Taco Tech in the summer. Jump in here and the Army thread every so often. It'll be nice to see another familar face with some years under the rucksack.

Yeah...it was because of the clot. I was pissed! I was hit by 2 IEDs on my last tour there and stayed in country with my unit. Now this time I have a freeking blood clot and I am gone! Tough pill to swallow! But yeah...I hate this desk job as much as I enjoy it. I just hate not being in the position of leading troops for the first time in over 20 years.

[jmonty]

someone say medevac?

[TheDukeUSMC]

Originally Posted by Ladyblue14424

Can an older Lady Marine jump in here..served in the 70's ..73-78..

"At least you weren't in for WWII. Most of those guys couldn't even walk onto the planes. Had to get up the steps on their knees"

used to be the way Paratroopers insulted the other soldiers...called 'em Straight legs"....they guys had so much gear on they had bowed legs all the time

Nice ride C-Kent

Semper Fi and welcome

[samori]

Originally Posted by Ladyblue14424

Can an older Lady Marine jump in here..served in the 70's ..73-78..

"At least you weren't in for WWII. Most of those guys couldn't even walk onto the planes. Had to get up the steps on their knees"

used to be the way Paratroopers insulted the other soldiers...called 'em Straight legs"....they guys had so much gear on they had bowed legs all the time

Nice ride C-Kent

actually..

we are honored to have you aboard !!!

[paulpfiction]

Originally Posted by 1stindoor

Any lady...especially a "former" Marine can jump into this thread. Thank you for your service. Especially during that time, post Viet Nam, big drawdown, low pay, etc. My father served during the same time frame, I remember it well. When Reagan was elected and the pay jumped it was a very happy time in our household.

Just so you know, those of us that jump, and do so with combat equipment, we still have trouble sometimes getting onboard the aircraft. My heaviest ruck to date was in the early 90's...119 lbs. I spent 10 days in a hidesite, with only what I could carry in. It was not a fun trip. lol.

Welcome to the thread Ladyblue.

gramps will surely welcome anyone older around here! jk welcome to the board lady!

[lifellgoesllon]

Just got done with work, you know what I have to say honestly no matter what service your in - with very few exceptions, I love talking to you guys it just is nice to share so much with those who have earned there freedom, so thank you all and I love this thread!

[Ladyblue14424]

JMonty
that is OUTSTANDING!!...my company was armor but I LOVE choppers!!

was the captain for a small rescue company up here some years back and one of the local air rescue groups, that I worked with regular gave me an invite to do a 24 hr ride along ...see what I thought kinda thing... (was EMT-CC (critical care paramedic) ...and dont you know my hubby tweeked since we had had a bird down with a different company not 6 months earlier..course he was Air Force Firefighter and had dealt with many a bird down
Then not a year later he was droolin over a personal sized (hobby) helicopter for amateur fliers... rofl.... No he didnt get the chopper

[Ladyblue14424]

Originally Posted by HELIX35

That right there is why I advocate the harshest possible punishments every time for drunk driving.

If you go out and get yourself killed that's unfortunate, but it was your choice. But you are puting the lives of innocent people in danger, and that I absolutely will not tolerate.

Now I will have to fess up that I am absolutly biased on this one..
I was an EMT for 12 years including critical care paramedic..I worked both in a paid service in the city and as a volly for my county ALS fly car, and several volly groups including my home squad I ended up LT then Capt for for couple of years..

If you get tanked, and then get behind the wheel... and someone dies?? Thats murder in my book//I got absolutly no sympathy whatsoever..Do not pass go ..go straight to jail and stay there for a LONNNNGG time..I ahve picked up kids killed by drunks , little old folks killed by drunks..everyone you could imagine and I really hate doing that

I love a glass of wine or a cold beer as much as anyone...but you are responsable for your actions and the effect on those around you

Semper Fi

[nutsy54]

An unfortunate coincidence from this week:

E5 DUI
Captain's Mast (NJP), reduction to E4
He had been the #1 ranked E5 in his department
He is now over High Year Tenure as an E4
Thus, headed to civilian life as soon as the paperwork settles

[TheDukeUSMC]

Originally Posted by nutsy54

An unfortunate coincidence from this week:

E5 DUI
Captain's Mast (NJP), reduction to E4
He had been the #1 ranked E5 in his department
He is now over High Year Tenure as an E4
Thus, headed to civilian life as soon as the paperwork settles

Owned son!

[bluemarlinO4]

Originally Posted by nutsy54

An unfortunate coincidence from this week:

E5 DUI
Captain's Mast (NJP), reduction to E4
He had been the #1 ranked E5 in his department
He is now over High Year Tenure as an E4
Thus, headed to civilian life as soon as the paperwork settles

happened in my Command two weeks back. Except it was for abuse of a controlled substance. This person couldnt stay away from the green leaf.

[Ladyblue14424]

Originally Posted by CountryPunk

After some research I was somehow convinced the British SAS are better than our SEALs. Their special forces seem to have better training and strategy than ours. I don't remember the statistics, but proportionally I think they had less casualties than us even though we sent out much more units

Our SEALS are never second to anybody, anywhere..(with the exception of some of my Marine brothers)

much as I love the Brits and the SAS is very good...they dont rank our SEALS

Semper Fi

[-Ironside-]

Would like to see Aussie SAS vs English SAS vs US SF vs US Seal in an all out competition.

[Mrs_Muscles]

Originally Posted by Ladyblue14424

If you get tanked, and then get behind the wheel... and someone dies?? Thats murder in my book//I got absolutly no sympathy whatsoever..Do not pass go ..go straight to jail and stay there for a LONNNNGG time..I ahve picked up kids killed by drunks , little old folks killed by drunks..everyone you could imagine and I really hate doing that

I love a glass of wine or a cold beer as much as anyone...but you are responsable for your actions and the effect on those around you

Semper Fi

I agree! I think the majority of DUI's get off way to easily.
I'm all for have a few good drinks, but I've always got a sober driver lined up if I'm not at home.

Originally Posted by TheDukeUSMC

Owned son!

Yup! Righly so.

[Johnnybomb]

Originally Posted by -Ironside-

Would like to see Aussie SAS vs English SAS vs US SF vs US Seal in an all out competition.

SEALS would win because they have David Goggins. This guy is a machine.

[nutsy54]

Originally Posted by -Ironside-

Would like to see Aussie SAS vs English SAS vs US SF vs US Seal in an all out competition.

It obviously depends on what the "competition" is, since their warfare skills are focused on different areas. . .

[VAPump]

Originally Posted by nutsy54

It obviously depends on what the "competition" is, since their warfare skills are focused on different areas. . .

Guitar Hero competition.

I will take home the gold for SF

[Johnnybomb]

Originally Posted by Nous Defions

Guitar Hero competition.

I will take home the gold for SF

Street Fighter 4 competition I'd win it for the Vets (aka civilians). The military has no chance against my skills.

[VAPump]

Originally Posted by Johnnybomb

Street Fighter 4 competition I'd win it for the Vets (aka civilians). The military has no chance against my skills.

Dude your f'ing Asian. Of course you would win.