Particular way to use low doses of roids

SuperRod · 03-02-2009, 01:24 PM

Hello , I ve got about 14 years of training under me, im 28 and Im really concerned about a safe , almost side effect less of using gear.

2 years ago I did the stupid thing of doing a 32 week cycle , I didnt abouse doses ( 4 d bols a day for 2 months, 300mg of test all the 32 weeks and some winstrol at the end) oh , I did post cycle but it didnt help much cause I did HCG but only 2 weeks of clomid
. I looked amazing yes, but after 2 months I was off the juice I began to lose size , I dropped almost 20 pounds and my bodyfat went higher. I checked my test level and it was 47! ( normal is between 300 to 1000).Of course, the problem wasnt the amount, but the time I was on the stuff.

Since last march I ve been struggling and using techniques to up my natural test , using clomid for long periods of time ( more than 1 month) , in fact I think that if you have been more than 16 weeks on a cycle, you should use HCG and then clomid for a long time to have your test back. 2 weeks of clomid after a long cycle dont cut it, at least for me.

Ok , the main point is this... my test is now n ormal , 550-650ng dl of total test and 13 to 17 of free test.. I want to up my test level to a normal but very high level ( lets say 1300) . which is twice my amount. With twice my test level I m sure I can go back to 210 in good shape as I was in 2007 ( now Im 197 in decent shape). My plan is using only 100mg of enanthate per week for 8 weeks to see what happen. I will have test exams on the 10th day . If my total test is around 1200 will be great , and it will not affect my endogeous test level if I keep it sweet and short .

I know a normal male produces about 70mg of test per week , so 100mg more would be around double that , that s my theory.

Does anyone have tried a thing like this and then check the test level on exams? That would be also a great way to use roids and not being detected since the total amount is not that high .
I appreciate responses, thanks.

A-rod · 03-02-2009, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperRod

Hello , I ve got about 14 years of training under me, im 28 and Im really concerned about a safe , almost side effect less of using gear.

2 years ago I did the stupid thing of doing a 32 week cycle , I didnt abouse doses ( 4 d bols a day for 2 months, 300mg of test all the 32 weeks and some winstrol at the end) oh , I did post cycle but it didnt help much cause I did HCG but only 2 weeks of clomid
. I looked amazing yes, but after 2 months I was off the juice I began to lose size , I dropped almost 20 pounds and my bodyfat went higher. I checked my test level and it was 47! ( normal is between 300 to 1000).Of course, the problem wasnt the amount, but the time I was on the stuff.

Since last march I ve been struggling and using techniques to up my natural test , using clomid for long periods of time ( more than 1 month) , in fact I think that if you have been more than 16 weeks on a cycle, you should use HCG and then clomid for a long time to have your test back. 2 weeks of clomid after a long cycle dont cut it, at least for me.

Ok , the main point is this... my test is now n ormal , 550-650ng dl of total test and 13 to 17 of free test.. I want to up my test level to a normal but very high level ( lets say 1300) . which is twice my amount. With twice my test level I m sure I can go back to 210 in good shape as I was in 2007 ( now Im 197 in decent shape). My plan is using only 100mg of enanthate per week for 8 weeks to see what happen. I will have test exams on the 10th day . If my total test is around 1200 will be great , and it will not affect my endogeous test level if I keep it sweet and short .

I know a normal male produces about 70mg of test per week , so 100mg more would be around double that , that s my theory.

Does anyone have tried a thing like this and then check the test level on exams? That would be also a great way to use roids and not being detected since the total amount is not that high .
I appreciate responses, thanks.

yOU LL BE SHUTDOWN FOR NO GAINS .

WRX20PSI · 03-02-2009, 01:40 PM

any exogenous amount of test will shut you down

1bebigger · 03-02-2009, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperRod

Hello , I ve got about 14 years of training under me, im 28 and Im really concerned about a safe , almost side effect less of using gear.

2 years ago I did the stupid thing of doing a 32 week cycle , I didnt abouse doses ( 4 d bols a day for 2 months, 300mg of test all the 32 weeks and some winstrol at the end) oh , I did post cycle but it didnt help much cause I did HCG but only 2 weeks of clomid
. I looked amazing yes, but after 2 months I was off the juice I began to lose size , I dropped almost 20 pounds and my bodyfat went higher. I checked my test level and it was 47! ( normal is between 300 to 1000).Of course, the problem wasnt the amount, but the time I was on the stuff.

Since last march I ve been struggling and using techniques to up my natural test , using clomid for long periods of time ( more than 1 month) , in fact I think that if you have been more than 16 weeks on a cycle, you should use HCG and then clomid for a long time to have your test back. 2 weeks of clomid after a long cycle dont cut it, at least for me.

Ok , the main point is this... my test is now n ormal , 550-650ng dl of total test and 13 to 17 of free test.. I want to up my test level to a normal but very high level ( lets say 1300) . which is twice my amount. With twice my test level I m sure I can go back to 210 in good shape as I was in 2007 ( now Im 197 in decent shape). My plan is using only 100mg of enanthate per week for 8 weeks to see what happen. I will have test exams on the 10th day . If my total test is around 1200 will be great , and it will not affect my endogeous test level if I keep it sweet and short .

I know a normal male produces about 70mg of test per week , so 100mg more would be around double that , that s my theory.

Does anyone have tried a thing like this and then check the test level on exams? That would be also a great way to use roids and not being detected since the total amount is not that high .
I appreciate responses, thanks.

simple, use aromasin. blitz-test did a log were he got his natty test to 1500. do a search for it. think he was using 25mg eod or ed. and stop calling aas "roids"

SuperRod · 03-02-2009, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 1bebigger

simple, use aromasin. blitz-test did a log were he got his natty test to 1500. do a search for it. think he was using 25mg eod or ed. and stop calling aas "roids"

sorry , Blitz-test is an user?

SuperRod · 03-02-2009, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by A-rod

yOU LL BE SHUTDOWN FOR NO GAINS .

bro , i doubt that... if you can double up your test to 1300ng dl you will be bigger and stronger for sure..

maverick000 · 03-02-2009, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperRod

bro , i doubt that... if you can double up your test to 1300ng dl you will be bigger and stronger for sure..

lol your an idiot. he meant you will still shut your body down by using such a crappy low dosage and you will also get no results, so there is no point in doing it.

Ryne5 · 03-03-2009, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by maverick000

lol your an idiot.

probably an over-the-top response to what was an obvious misunderstanding.

Nakmuay187 · 03-03-2009, 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by maverick000

lol your an idiot.

you're*

Cape1 · 03-03-2009, 06:06 AM

What makes you think that being "high normal" will produce much better results than "mid normal"? It may; it may not. I would say that you probably wouldn't be able to notice the difference.

Either way, if you're back to a normal range, I would not self administer your own little TRT regimine. I think the draw backs far outweight the marginal benefits.

Also, hommey, the drug test looks at the ratio of Estrogen and Test; not just test level. You're not solving anything by using a lower dose, assuming that's your concern.

Why not use some of the natural remedies to slightly raise your levels. You could easily tack a couple of hundred points on there and a few for free-t as well minus all the headaches. Good diet, proper training, some of the herbal stuff works pretty well.

ThisBigBastard · 03-03-2009, 06:46 AM

I think you should be happy you got yourself back to normal.
Next time you may not be so lucky.

A-rod · 03-03-2009, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by SuperRod

bro , i doubt that... if you can double up your test to 1300ng dl you will be bigger and stronger for sure..

Gues what I can quadruple that and get more results, HCG periodically and psychologically sane ATM.lol

andy0810 · 03-03-2009, 08:12 AM

by coincidence i was using mt2 while on pct and recovered within 6 weeks after last test shoot 12 week cycle.i did also use proviron and letrozole as pct.since i take test and estradiol levels every 2 weeks i was very surprised.i started a new equipose cycle only am into it for four weeks with testlevel still the same as beginning.maybe someone can explain

ccs77 · 03-03-2009, 08:59 AM

As stated, be happy you rebounded. Just run standard 12-14 week cycles and good PCT's from here on out.

javin86 · 03-03-2009, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by SuperRod

bro , i doubt that... if you can double up your test to 1300ng dl you will be bigger and stronger for sure..

after ester weight, 100mg of test will only really be about 70mg anyway, thereby just replacing your natural production and shutting you down.

javin86 · 03-03-2009, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by 1bebigger

simple, use aromasin. blitz-test did a log were he got his natty test to 1500. do a search for it. think he was using 25mg eod or ed. and stop calling aas "roids"

I'm no so sure how I feel about that. Though I don't doubt aromasin's ability to boost test and enhace recovery, I wondewr how much of that was a result of aromasin causing a false positive for test. It's been shown that the otc ai's will show up as test in a blood test, I wonder if aromasin is the same.

ccs77 · 03-03-2009, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by javin86

after ester weight, 100mg of test will only really be about 70mg anyway, thereby just replacing your natural production and shutting you down.

I think this is what the OP is missing... Once you suppliment testosterone your body quits producing it, so after a few weeks that "double up" theory goes to $hit and further more when you decide to quit supplimenting test your test level will plummet again untill your natty test picks back up and you may lose any gaines you made in this period of low test levels.

ThisBigBastard · 03-03-2009, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ccs77

I think this is what the OP is missing... Once you suppliment testosterone your body quits producing it, so after a few weeks that "double up" theory goes to $hit and further more when you decide to quit supplimenting test your test level will plummet again untill your natty test picks back up and you may lose any gaines you made in this period of low test levels.

Exactly.

So basically, MAKE IT WORTH IT!