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02-11-2009, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by B Con
Pump does not have any pills that I would label "horse pills."
Animal Pump isn't going to be a ton of energy off the bat. It's more of a sustained release formula energy wise. Most users report full effects kicking in around 7-10 days of use. Make sure you are using on OFF days as well, or using some form of creatine on off days.
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I never took it on off days it would just be a waste.. But I still noticed the full effects and No i never took any creatine on my off days back then.
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02-12-2009, 12:53 AM
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#2552
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Just received my shipment today.
I am taking animal m-stak, animal-pump, and dymatize mega gainer (post workout).
I took both m-stak and animal pump about 45 minutes before my workout today. It was a chest/tris today, and on my first exercise (flat bench) i did my full 3 sets x 8 reps, followed up with a 4th set and 10lb weight increase, and banged out 7. My next exercise was incline DB press and I decided to start with 5lbs extra per side than normal, and I banged out my 3 sets with no problems, and then my flies regular weight had no problems either.
So on my first day I made some gains, had WAY more energy then normal.
WHen i started my tris exercise, on my last, of 3 exercises, I got finished my 2nd set and decided I couldn't do anymore and hit the showers.
The cons I had for this was...was when i wasn't working out I felt really energized, almost shaky and eager to just GO GO GO to the point where I just couldnt stop moving, it eventually about half way through started to hit me hard and my stomach started to turn...i made my way through it...once I hit the shower however, I felt way better, and then once outside I felt awesome (very awake)....I think it was just something my body wasn't use too at all (probably the stimulants), as I do not drink coffee, energy drinks, and barely any pop or anything like that...I don't think i have ever felt this exhausted so early in the night before, and this will probably be the earliest ive gone to bed in months...
And another thing, I notice myself peeing WAY more then I usually do with about the same amount of water i normally drink...is this normal?
And man is my appetite up, it feels like ive been stuffed this whole day.....another thing was, just after my first 2 chest exercises....my tris felt so pumped and swelling and hard, it was awesome!! haha
Give it another try tomorrow on legs and see how its goes!!
Last edited by barnsey; 02-12-2009 at 12:59 AM.
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02-12-2009, 03:41 AM
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#2553
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zeebodybuilder
I never took it on off days it would just be a waste.. But I still noticed the full effects and No i never took any creatine on my off days back then.
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I wouldn't say you noticed full effects until you were at least dosing some form of creatine on off days as well. That's just imho.
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Originally Posted by barnsey
Just received my shipment today.
I am taking animal m-stak, animal-pump, and dymatize mega gainer (post workout)....
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Thanks for choosing Universal/Animal. I would take out the red stim pill definitely.
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02-12-2009, 03:45 PM
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#2554
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Is there any list of side effects that animal pump and m-stak may cause? I tried both packs today, had a great workout, my energy level was high, but not like yesterday where i was shaky which i was happy about.
I feel very weird today, feeling bloated, and a stomach that sounds and feels like its so hungry but so full at the same time.
It probably doesnt help that i didn't get A LOT of rest (less than usual and got up way earlier than usual), so i feel groggier than normal.
I think tomorrow im going to try my workout with only 1 stimulant instead of 2 and see how i feel afterwards.
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02-12-2009, 04:41 PM
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How much caffeine is in that red pill?? I jsut got my shipment today.. I did not realize there was so many pills!!
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02-12-2009, 04:49 PM
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#2556
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Quote:
Originally Posted by barnsey
Is there any list of side effects that animal pump and m-stak may cause? I tried both packs today, had a great workout, my energy level was high, but not like yesterday where i was shaky which i was happy about.
I feel very weird today, feeling bloated, and a stomach that sounds and feels like its so hungry but so full at the same time.
It probably doesnt help that i didn't get A LOT of rest (less than usual and got up way earlier than usual), so i feel groggier than normal.
I think tomorrow im going to try my workout with only 1 stimulant instead of 2 and see how i feel afterwards.
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No side effects from pump but a lot people say they get an increase in appetite on m-stack. If the stims are to much just take one a day, I personally don't feel anything from them because I'm really tolerant to stims, I love the pumps I get though
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02-12-2009, 05:14 PM
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#2557
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Ya, too be quite honest, I think my upset stomach is a result of not eating enough...ive been eating constantly all day, just finished 3 huge tuna wraps and I still feel hungry! It feels like my stomach is working all day long, very quickly...hopefully this is on route to great results!
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02-13-2009, 05:43 AM
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#2558
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Quote:
Originally Posted by barnsey
Is there any list of side effects that animal pump and m-stak may cause? I tried both packs today, had a great workout, my energy level was high, but not like yesterday where i was shaky which i was happy about.
I feel very weird today, feeling bloated, and a stomach that sounds and feels like its so hungry but so full at the same time.
It probably doesnt help that i didn't get A LOT of rest (less than usual and got up way earlier than usual), so i feel groggier than normal.
I think tomorrow im going to try my workout with only 1 stimulant instead of 2 and see how i feel afterwards.
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As it's been stated, no sides from Pump or M Stak. If you feel you are caffeine sensitive then please take out the red pills.
With M Stak you will have an increased appetite... so PLEASE EAT EAT EAT EAT and EAT some more to get the full benefit of the product. Also increase your protein.
And get more sleep
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Originally Posted by shortstopguy12
How much caffeine is in that red pill?? I jsut got my shipment today.. I did not realize there was so many pills!!
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Look at around 200 mg.
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Originally Posted by barnsey
Ya, too be quite honest, I think my upset stomach is a result of not eating enough...ive been eating constantly all day, just finished 3 huge tuna wraps and I still feel hungry! It feels like my stomach is working all day long, very quickly...hopefully this is on route to great results! 
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Gotta eat man especially with M Stak. M Stak is a nutrient partitioner meaning it will make better use of your food... so to take advantage of it EAT.
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02-13-2009, 08:20 AM
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#2559
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shortstopguy12
How much caffeine is in that red pill?? I jsut got my shipment today.. I did not realize there was so many pills!!
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It's the "pack" system. All Animal supps are dosed with many pills in individualized packets.
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02-13-2009, 12:33 PM
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#2560
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Update...
My schedule WAS this...
730 - Protein Shake
1000 - Protein Shake
1045 - Animal Pump
1115 - Gym
and no luck with any increase...
Thursday I got stuck in meetings all morning and didn't get my typical 1000 shake and I slammed my Animal Pump at 1100 before I hit the gym at 1115... about 1130 that baby kicked in- in full force!
Today I decided to move up my food to 930am and had a sandwhich...took the Pump at 1045 and BAM!!!!!
Animal Pump is now in full effect- LOVING IT!
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02-13-2009, 12:41 PM
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#2561
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WOW, i received my sample in the mail yesterday and took it before my chest/tris day and wow this product is amazing. I've had a tube of superpump and no xplode before and their nothing compared to animal pump.
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02-13-2009, 03:19 PM
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#2562
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SP250 to Animal or Animal to SP 250
Can someone who has taken the two either way around...please advise me on what works better. I first started taking NO Xplode and my body became used to it within months (I think they also switched their ingredients which made the **** weaker). Anyways, I am using SuperPump 250 and ON's 100% Whey right now and it works good...but I don't want to settle for good.
SuperPump gives me good pumps and I get a little jolt (its fading slowly everytime I take it.) I am not complaining about this product. I would like to know if anyone has switched from SP250 to Animal and likes it more or vice versa?
Thank you.
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02-14-2009, 10:31 AM
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#2563
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Biddle
Can someone who has taken the two either way around...please advise me on what works better. I first started taking NO Xplode and my body became used to it within months (I think they also switched their ingredients which made the **** weaker). Anyways, I am using SuperPump 250 and ON's 100% Whey right now and it works good...but I don't want to settle for good.
SuperPump gives me good pumps and I get a little jolt (its fading slowly everytime I take it.) I am not complaining about this product. I would like to know if anyone has switched from SP250 to Animal and likes it more or vice versa?
Thank you.
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Try White flood man, for me it worked wayyyyy better than Animal pump...and blew n.o. xplode out of the water...plus for 50 servings at 40 bucks...you cant go wrong. that and white flood also kicks in, in about 15 minutes.
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02-14-2009, 02:24 PM
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Final question... how much creatine should I be taking on my non work out days? I am only taking animal pump on my work out days, so 4 times a week... what about the other 3 days? How much creatine should I be taking?
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02-14-2009, 03:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shortstopguy12
Final question... how much creatine should I be taking on my non work out days? I am only taking animal pump on my work out days, so 4 times a week... what about the other 3 days? How much creatine should I be taking?
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UGGGGGHH this question has been asked a butt load of times....jsut take 5 grams
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02-16-2009, 03:30 PM
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Animal pump
yoo
do i take animal pump for like 3 weeks and stop using this for a week?
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02-16-2009, 03:36 PM
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animal pump
do i take animal pump for like 3 weeks and stop using this for a week?
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02-16-2009, 04:28 PM
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So how does AP compare to SP250? Does it wear off after a while?
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02-16-2009, 08:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by eunchulol
do i take animal pump for like 3 weeks and stop using this for a week?
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take it until your can is done then cycle off it for two weeks and start back up again
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02-17-2009, 01:00 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HeGirA
take it until your can is done then cycle off it for two weeks and start back up again
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Theres no need to cycle the product. You can however just takeout the red pill if you don't want to overload on stims
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02-20-2009, 12:12 AM
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Question
So, i've been working out for about a month now and im looking to really kick it up a notch. I'm curious if anyone has taken animal cut and pump at the same time. Is it a good combination or a bad idea. Anyway, i'm new to the whole supplements thing so i want to know what i'm really getting into.
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02-20-2009, 03:28 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by matrixskillz
So how does AP compare to SP250? Does it wear off after a while?
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AP is way better than SP 250.
All stim supplements wear off after awhile so you need to switch around products.
AP and White Flood (in abc order) are the 2 best I have tried preworkout personally.
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02-20-2009, 03:35 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by smason19782
Update...
My schedule WAS this...
730 - Protein Shake
1000 - Protein Shake
1045 - Animal Pump
1115 - Gym
and no luck with any increase...
Thursday I got stuck in meetings all morning and didn't get my typical 1000 shake and I slammed my Animal Pump at 1100 before I hit the gym at 1115... about 1130 that baby kicked in- in full force!
Today I decided to move up my food to 930am and had a sandwhich...took the Pump at 1045 and BAM!!!!!
Animal Pump is now in full effect- LOVING IT!
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Thanks for the feedback S. Glad your loving it.
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Originally Posted by najnoh
WOW, i received my sample in the mail yesterday and took it before my chest/tris day and wow this product is amazing. I've had a tube of superpump and no xplode before and their nothing compared to animal pump.
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Thanks for the feedback N.
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Originally Posted by Biddle
Can someone who has taken the two either way around...please advise me on what works better. I first started taking NO Xplode and my body became used to it within months (I think they also switched their ingredients which made the **** weaker). Anyways, I am using SuperPump 250 and ON's 100% Whey right now and it works good...but I don't want to settle for good.
SuperPump gives me good pumps and I get a little jolt (its fading slowly everytime I take it.) I am not complaining about this product. I would like to know if anyone has switched from SP250 to Animal and likes it more or vice versa?
Thank you.
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I really think this is just a matter of personal preference and finding out which product works best with you. Everyone is different and will respond different to each product. We hear great feedback either way.
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Originally Posted by littlepapapump
Last night I ordered...
Universal Animal Pump Take around 30 min pre workout & on OFF days unless you have a bulk creatine you are taking on off days.
Animal Stak Take either 40 min pre workout or you could take it at night time
Animal Pak Take it daily w/ breakfast
Universal Torrent Take it post workout
I have switched my entire stack over to Universal and am anxious to get everything next week so I can begin trying it out.
Can anybody give me some guidance on what is the best way to stack all of these supplements and maybe some timing I should use them....I usually try to begin my workouts at 1:00 p.m....because I had to get my workout in and give time for the super pump 250 or NO Explode to wear off so I could sleep that night.
I plan on taking the red capsule with my workout as I understand that this is the caffeine pill. Yes, this is correct for Animal Pump.
P.S.....a little side-note, I also ordered HDT daily detox II, it is a total body cleanser...I figured it is nice once in a while to cleans your entire body so I was wanting to know should I not take the body cleanse when I am taking my stack of Universal supplements....I am worried the detox will clean away all of the supplements I will be taking if I do a body cleanse at the same time.
I cant wait to start my Universal stack, I know I have lots of questions in this post but if anybody could help answer any of them, I would much appreciate it!
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Answers in bold.
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Originally Posted by HeGirA
Try White flood man, for me it worked wayyyyy better than Animal pump...and blew n.o. xplode out of the water...plus for 50 servings at 40 bucks...you cant go wrong. that and white flood also kicks in, in about 15 minutes.
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As stated above, I really think this is a matter of personal preference. What works for one may not work for all.
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Originally Posted by littlepapapump
Yeah, I had White Flood in my shopping cart but decided to go the Universal route instead, I hope I didnt make a mistake???
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shortstopguy12
Final question... how much creatine should I be taking on my non work out days? I am only taking animal pump on my work out days, so 4 times a week... what about the other 3 days? How much creatine should I be taking?
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For most users you are looking at anywhere from 3-5 grams. I typically tend to stay around the 5 grams area.
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Originally Posted by eunchulol
yoo
do i take animal pump for like 3 weeks and stop using this for a week?
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No. You do not need to cycle off Animal Pump... the only thing I would cycle would be taking out the red pill. But even that is a matter of personal preference.
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Originally Posted by matrixskillz
So how does AP compare to SP250? Does it wear off after a while?
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As always this is really going to depend on the person and how the supplement reacts with them. Please see najnoh's post or other posts that directly mention comparisons.
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Originally Posted by RedlineRider
Theres no need to cycle the product. You can however just takeout the red pill if you don't want to overload on stims
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Agreed.
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Originally Posted by prakaddc
So, i've been working out for about a month now and im looking to really kick it up a notch. I'm curious if anyone has taken animal cut and pump at the same time. Is it a good combination or a bad idea. Anyway, i'm new to the whole supplements thing so i want to know what i'm really getting into.
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I have stacked both at the same time before and enjoyed great results. The only thing I would be weary of, is if you are caffeine sensitive, both Cuts and Pump has a "red" pill that is the stim pill. Meaning you can omit this pill from one if you are feeling overwhelmed by the stims.
Other than that try it out and let us know what you think. Remember your diet/training are going to play bigger parts than any supplements will.
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02-20-2009, 03:36 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bo DeLone
AP is way better than SP 250.
All stim supplements wear off after awhile so you need to switch around products.
AP and White Flood (in abc order) are the 2 best I have tried preworkout personally.
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Thanks for the feedback.
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02-20-2009, 03:48 AM
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If your taking Animal Pump + Torrent doesnt that total up up to 6 grams of creatine? And isnt that on the high side?
Cause thats what im only currently, and ive just been wondering whether I need to take out the creatine pills (yellow) while taking animal pump.
Thanks
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02-20-2009, 03:50 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SpeeD2
If your taking Animal Pump + Torrent doesnt that total up up to 6 grams of creatine? And isnt that on the high side?
Cause thats what im only currently, and ive just been wondering whether I need to take out the creatine pills (yellow) while taking animal pump.
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It's not on the high side to take 6 grams. Yes both would give you around 5-6 grams. Something on the high end would be 10 grams.
The only pills you could take out in Pump would be the Red Stim pill other than that do not remove anything else. The creatine is spread throughout all the pills not just the yellow.
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02-20-2009, 03:57 AM
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What's the effect on females? Any side-effects?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LusciousRen
What's the effect on females? Any side-effects?
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None that have been reported.
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02-21-2009, 12:40 AM
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A Question about Animal Pump ?
I am using Animal Pump for two days now, some of my friends advised me to take iso soy protein with the animal pump to have a better result.
is it the right thing or i should take Animal Pump only ?
Thanks
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02-21-2009, 02:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kindghost
I am using Animal Pump for two days now, some of my friends advised me to take iso soy protein with the animal pump to have a better result.
is it the right thing or i should take Animal Pump only ?
Thanks
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That's fine.
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