Still havent lost a pound, bout to quit.

[fatboyslim420]

Originally Posted by lococrzy

Dude For real Try HITT, i do it and man it woops my ass. I sweat like a hog.

I do it after my lifting, seems to be working pretty good for me

BTW thanks for changing your AVi

i have been. ive been doing my own little version. i do 15 minutes on the elliptical to start. every other minute its fast as i can do, like 84-90 rotations a minute, heartrate 170+. then i hop on stationary bike for 15 on the hill cycle which is naturally, in the LifeCycle bike, is a HIIT mode. its set to have real high resistance every other minute. then i hop back on the eppileptical for another 10 doing the same.

no results yet, but not giving up.

one thing im having trouble with, since in making dinner for myself now is becoming kinda hard. i was eating tons of pasta based dishes before which was bad. but i bought a grip of chicken and a couple steaks to have every night for next 10 nights to see if it makes a difference. BUT, i was told carbs should be consumed earlier in the day and before workout. i normally workout midday, so im trying not to consume carbs after it. ISSUE>>> i cant seem to find anything to go with my chicken that doesnt have a grip of carbs with it. my hunger cant be satisfied with just an 8oz chicken breast. i cant make potatoes, cuz there full of carbs. same with corn or other vegatables.

could i ask again for some more help, this time in meal preperation so i dont consume bad **** after work outs for my dinner?

thanks guys.

[Akebono]

For your diet, if u are willing to lose weight...

would be Chicken breast, and alot of vegetables (vegetables with different colors too)...

and drink green tea...since its thermogenic....supposedly.

Do it for 2-3 weeks then have 1 week break.

Cutting carbs into a very low intake, takes a toll on your body, so keep it in mind.

as well...no more ellipticals......for me, it just doesnt feel right, and its too easy.

oh yea...forgot...drink lots of water too...gets rid of water retention.

if u cant lose weight outta this, change your workout big time. u prob hit a plateau or somethin.

[xtonix]

Originally Posted by fatboyslim420

wow, we got a smart one, gentleman.

i havnt tried the keto yet. i was lookin over it 2nite and am contimplating it. im not stopping till the weight is gone. im just having trouble with the diet, as its the main part it losing weight. i've seen people lose more weight just lifting weights a couple times a week, no cardio, but there diet was stellar. im just trying to find out what it is thats pullin me down (carbs,calories, etc.)

i suggest you look into keto. read some of the logs and the info in the keto section of the forums, pretty inspirational stuff

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketogenic_diet

[GymMunkey]

I would recommend adding more fat into your diet.

Something like 50%P/30%C/20%F

Your body needs health fats (I.E. Peanuts, almonds (butters of those nuts as well) olive oil, eggs, etc). If you lack fat in your diet (usually anything below 20%) your test levels will drop. Testosterone is one of the main components for losing fat and maintaining muscle.

I would also recommend only taking in carbs when necessary... I.E. Say 15% Breakfast 30% pre and post workout and the other 25% through out the day that is made up through veggies, protein/fat foods that may have tag along carbs.

Sleep and water are factors. Water not so much as sleep. But water can act as a natural diuretic, make sure you do your best to get in 1-1.5 gallons each day, that way you won't see as much water retention, which can show as up to 20 lbs on the scale. And sleep, if you're not getting enough of that your body can't function at it's best. And cortisol levels are possible to rise because your body feels stressed (attitude can also cause this).

Be consistent. That's the biggest factor, sometimes people will build muscle faster than they lose fat. You will see a maintenance of wait, or even an increase in some cases for the first little while. I think the guy who said to not weigh yourself had the right idea. The scale doesn't really matter, watch for changes in overall appearance and shape.

If you hate doing it so much, you probably should just stop. Stress alone can make a factor in not losing weight. But another thing is to just stop hating and enjoy it. If you weren't on the treadmill, lifting weights or working with your nutrition where else would you be? Sitting in front of the TV eating a pizza? That is certainly gonna make you feel better while you're doing it, but after you gain the 2 lbs, starting feeling gassy and bloated... you might have wished you just went to the gym.

It's about enjoying it, liking what you are doing. Not complaining all the time because you aren't seeing auto results. It took you a few years to put on the lbs, give yourself that time to make sure it all comes off.

[Skinny160]

Walk around the track holding 1-> 45 pound plate in each hand for about a mile a day , when you lift, do really light wieght and do it a bunch of times, burn more calories then lifting heavy weights, you will get there but try to stuff I just told you. and just Stick to 3 meals a day small meals with like yogurt in between a couple meals.

[fatboyslim420]

Well i started new diet today. No more breads and excess carbs. For breakfast all i had was a protein shake and an apple. For lunch i had 2 cans of tuna w/ a hardboiled egg and salt and pepper. And the hardest part, and biggest accomplishment was my dinner. Roommate made some ham-stuffing-chicken concotion, which i normally would eat. Instead, i sauteed myself some chicken with red bellpeppers,corn,and onions. overall, about 20% less carbs and about 30% more protein than my other 'diet'.

been hittin the gym as frequently, but have been doing HIIT during my cardio sessions. have upped the bench press, more weight and more reps.

Hopefully i'll see results with new plan.

[sunnyde]

You never quit man. Quitting isn't a option, only succeeding. Keep im doing what your doing if it doesn't work try something else. Mess around with the diet and see what works, that hardwork should payoff. I'm trying to get to 200 by Summer and I will because you gotta have that mentality.

[Gabriel01]

Originally Posted by fatboyslim420

It is now week 4 gentleman. If you've read any of my threads before, i have been having trouble losing weight.

Basic breakdown on diet is about 100g protein, 100g carb and 1500-1700 g calories daily. at gym 5-6 days a week.

got on the scale again today, still at 198 pounds. some say, 'your probably just putting on muscle'. well if that was true i would expect some kind of body result or weight change, let it be one damn pound.

i've been working so hard these last few weeks, and its not showing for ****. i should have lost at least 10 pounds by now. i've been practically pulling my hair out sticking to this damn diet and workout routine, for nothing.

feel free to bash, comment, or whatever. dont really care at this point. just needed to vent.

I remember now, you created a thread while back regarding the same issue.

You still having bagels in the morning ? Whats your diet like now ?

[fatboyslim420]

Originally Posted by Gabriel01

I remember now, you created a thread while back regarding the same issue.

You still having bagels in the morning ? Whats your diet like now ?

no more bagels! no more bread at all if i can help it. i drink i protein shake in the morning, with some oats. if no oats i eat an apple too. tuna for lunch and chicken for dinner. thats pretty much it. i add vegatbles with my meals usually, and only eat carbs earlier in the day and b4 my workout if i can help it. if carbs later in day, not very many are consumed. b4, the diet was like 60% carbs. now its about 50% protein, then 25/25. also, nothing but water. was drinking green tea, vitamin water and othe BS, but now just strict filtered or bottled water.

hopefully results soon...

[lyrics312]

I've read several really good posts in this thread that explain everything your doing wrong and what you need to change. Follow the advice you were given, change your eating & exercise plan to what was suggested, and check back in after another month to tell us your results.

[Hotmoltenlava]

Originally Posted by lyrics312

I've read several really good posts in this thread that explain everything your doing wrong and what you need to change. Follow the advice you were given, change your eating & exercise plan to what was suggested, and check back in after another month to tell us your results.

What he said. Start a log.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/forumdisplay.php?f=111

[Nabla]

Green tea is good but without sugar and cold for me I make some in advance with small 0.5L bottles that I keep in the fridge so I can drink during cardio.

[Robby Coker]

Originally Posted by fatboyslim420

no more bagels! no more bread at all if i can help it.

You'd think bagels are healthy, but most are full of white flour and are really not good for you. Think of them as white bread with attitude. In some cases, they're about as bad for you as donuts.

i drink i protein shake in the morning, with some oats. if no oats i eat an apple too. tuna for lunch and chicken for dinner. thats pretty much it. i add vegatbles with my meals usually, and only eat carbs earlier in the day and b4 my workout if i can help it. if carbs later in day, not very many are consumed. b4, the diet was like 60% carbs. now its about 50% protein, then 25/25. also, nothing but water. was drinking green tea, vitamin water and othe BS, but now just strict filtered or bottled water.

hopefully results soon...

That sounds like a good plan.

Tea is fine. Stick with only the unsweetened kind. Avoid using sugar or artificial sweeteners in it.

Green Tea is actually very good as it can aid in fat loss. It's been shown to increase your metabolism by 4%. Stick with the kind that's unsweetened. Much of the kind you buy in bottles either has sugar in it or is artificially sweetened. It's better if you make your own using the tea bags or the leaves.

Keeping simple carbs and white carbs, which are both insulinogenic carbs, very low is very important when losing fat. Insulin will shut off the fat-burning process.

[fatboyslim420]

Originally Posted by Robby99999

You'd think bagels are healthy, but most are full of white flour and are really not good for you. Think of them as white bread with attitude. In some cases, they're about as bad for you as donuts.


That sounds like a good plan.

Tea is fine. Stick with only the unsweetened kind. Avoid using sugar or artificial sweeteners in it.

Green Tea is actually very good as it can aid in fat loss. It's been shown to increase your metabolism by 4%. Stick with the kind that's unsweetened. Much of the kind you buy in bottles either has sugar in it or is artificially sweetened. It's better if you make your own using the tea bags or the leaves.

Keeping simple carbs and white carbs, which are both insulinogenic carbs, very low is very important when losing fat. Insulin will shut off the fat-burning process.

thanks you for the help, and the rep point. im no longer in red

[lococrzy]

Sounds like your doing alot better

But like some one wrote on here, have fun with it man. don't make it seem like such a chore, changing your attitude towards it will make it seem 100000X easier.

BTW

about your debacle on dinner

Look into the abs diet book, they have good recipes. Menshealth.com is also a great site for healthy easy dinner with minimal carbs.

IDK but now that im cutting its actualy kind of fun cooking for myself at night i get to see what works , and what doesnt. (Helpful tip - Dont mix eggs with Brussel sprouts bad combo lol hahahaha)

ANy ways man keep at it

[Bboycas]

I just lost 7 kilos in 11 days buy powerwalking, NO WEIGHTS/NO GYM. I walk 6.6kms in the morning & 6.6kms at night.
I was 119.5 kilos (I am 6 foot 4).
A great book to look at is Body for Life Bill Phillips.
Diet:
Breakfast - 5 egg whites, 2 whole yolks, 100grams sliced chicken or ham & hand full of shallots.
Mid morning - 200grams of plain yoghurt, apple or banana & 10 rice crackers
Lunch - 2 x 125grams tins of tuna/low fat mayo for taste & shallots on wholemeal bread snadwiches.
Mid afternoon - Protein shake with spoonful of milo & apple or banana.
Dinner - 200grams or steak or chicken or fish & veggies or salad.
Before bed - protein shake.

Drink at least 2 litres ot water throuhgout the day & eating small meals every 2-3 hours should keep you full.

If it was easy we'd all be skinny, you should be able to safely lose 1kilo a week & if you are already largely over weight you should be able to lose about 2-3 kilos buy doing cardio alone each week. Once you get down weight it becomes a little tougher & you have to push harder.

[fatboyslim420]

Originally Posted by Bboycas

I just lost 7 kilos in 11 days buy powerwalking, NO WEIGHTS/NO GYM. I walk 6.6kms in the morning & 6.6kms at night.
I was 119.5 kilos (I am 6 foot 4).
A great book to look at is Body for Life Bill Phillips.
Diet:
Breakfast - 5 egg whites, 2 whole yolks, 100grams sliced chicken or ham & hand full of shallots.
Mid morning - 200grams of plain yoghurt, apple or banana & 10 rice crackers
Lunch - 2 x 125grams tins of tuna/low fat mayo for taste & shallots on wholemeal bread snadwiches.
Mid afternoon - Protein shake with spoonful of milo & apple or banana.
Dinner - 200grams or steak or chicken or fish & veggies or salad.
Before bed - protein shake.

Drink at least 2 litres ot water throuhgout the day & eating small meals every 2-3 hours should keep you full.

If it was easy we'd all be skinny, you should be able to safely lose 1kilo a week & if you are already largely over weight you should be able to lose about 2-3 kilos buy doing cardio alone each week. Once you get down weight it becomes a little tougher & you have to push harder.

congrats.

its not so easy for me. i go to the gym 5-6 days a week and do cardio and lift everytime. thats why i made this thread. hopefully it'll start coming off though.

thanks for the post.

[fatboyslim420]

well today worked out ok. ratio turned out 49% protein 25% fat and 26% carbs. i had a mini-cheat and had a pack of skittles though. :/ thats one of the hard parts for me. im still young, and love the candies still. i used to eat a lot more, so i figured a candy once a week shouldnt hurt to bad. that, and the vegatbles i ate with my dinner where the only source of carbs for the day.

[congos83]

my thing is you're 5'11 and 198 lbs? To me that isn't really fat. Sure a little out of shape, but before you posted your height I had the impression you were a 5'4 obese guy. In my avatar is a pic of me @ 5'9 and 195. Not the best shape, but nobody calls me fat.

[cbrickhouse]

so i guess by saying you're going to "quit" that you weren't really dedicated to a life change, but a diet/exercise plan just for a while to lose weight, which is the main reason people fail in the first place. quitting is for quitters, and once a quitter, always a quitter

[fatboyslim420]

Originally Posted by cbrickhouse

so i guess by saying you're going to "quit" that you weren't really dedicated to a life change, but a diet/exercise plan just for a while to lose weight, which is the main reason people fail in the first place. quitting is for quitters, and once a quitter, always a quitter

the original post was like 6 days and 4 pages ago. yes, i was frustrated, but no, no quits here.

[vincent199188]

hmmm... are u getting enough rest? because i know u have to rest well in order to lose weight.. and drink plenty of water!! u can do it,.,,

[fatboyslim420]

Originally Posted by vincent199188

hmmm... are u getting enough rest? because i know u have to rest well in order to lose weight.. and drink plenty of water!! u can do it,.,,

yeah i get great sleepz. one thing i can do better is drink more (water). i dont like the feeling of being full on liquid, so i tend to shy from it. but thanks, you just reminded me to go fill up my bottle.

[cbrickhouse]

only drink a little water right before a workout... but drink water consistantly all day so you're plenty hydrated but your stomach won't be full. then when you get done your workout, drink again

[ericpeavey]

Originally Posted by fatboyslim420

i've heard eating tons of protein is no good for cutting. im not looking to build muscle here, but to LOSE fat. dont see how eating MORE, no matter what it is, is going to help me lose. maybe im ignorant. i dont know. just friggin frustrating.

your body uses almost three of ever four calories in a gram of protein. Where as your body uses less than one calorie of a carb or fat. it's called the thermic effect of food.

http://www.fitcommerce.com/Blueprint...243&tabindex=5

http://www.jacn.org/cgi/content/full/23/5/373

[mullyman]

You really should look into upping your calories. If you're working out your body is going to need more than the "Daily recommended amount" for your height and age etc... I can tell you this, if you want to lose weight sometimes it takes eating more. I know that sounds screwed up but if you're not getting enough calories your body is going to go into hibernation mode and store that fat so it has an energy resource to fall back on. You may want to up those calories to around 22-2300.....and continue staying away from the simple carbs as much as you can. Carbs are a part of life though so not having any is just not smart. If you have to eat carbs go with complex carbs like whole wheat, brown rice, etc...and don't overdo it.

Good luck, man. Losing weight is a bitch but it can be done. And you can do it too. Gotta be a little more patient.
MULLY

[Stealth1097]

Originally Posted by fatboyslim420

I copied this from my previous thread, which the main point was also me bitching about me being fat and nothing changing with what im doing. i have mixed things up a bit, like doing harder workout for shorter duration, cutting more carbs, etc. nothing seems to work. and as for the calorie consumption, i calculated it with my age, weight, etc and its right if i want to be in the 'weight loss' catagorie.

but ya, feel free if you want to add suggestions. dont know whats wrong with me. just a fatass i guess.




Age=19
Sex=Male
Height='5 11'
Weight=198

Dietz:

Meal 1= 2-3 eggs w/ 2 pcs wheat toast or a bagel

Snack/Before workout= Fruit (apple/bannana)

Meal 2= low-cal soup, or a tuna/lettuce salad

Snack2= Carrots,cuccumber, green pepper (good handful of either)

Meal 3= Chicken or steak w/ vegatbles if by myself (girlfriend works nites), but when together, usually a family type meal (speghetti,enchilada,etc)

b4 bed= lite snack, usually a fruit or veg








i do about 90-120 minutes monday thru saturday of this:

Show up, do about 30-40 minutes of weight training.

Monday i'll do arms. bicep curls, machines. tricep machine, dips.

Tuesday ill do chest, and some abdominal machine

wednesday i do back

thursday, legs and more stomache

then i restart with mondays.

After this routine of weights daily, ill do 20 mins on elliptical machine, pretty quick BPM between 160-170

Then onto stationary bike for a 20 minute uphill cycle

Then back to the eppileptic for another 20 min.

This is Monday Thru Saturday, rest sunday, and another day inbetween if sore/lazy.

Sounds odd with the amount of training your doing and you arent losing anything. Your metabolism im guessing is quite slow and maybe doesnt respond well to calories. I actually have a friend like this, quite ridiculous but, hes about 200lbs of muscle with minimal fat. And he consumes about 1500-2000 cal/day. Its ridiculous, but, its his genetics. he has an "extremely" slow metabolism. I would possibly suggest giving it some time, you could have a similar endomorph body type and this could take you just alittle longer than the average person. Upside is, if your endomorph, and somehow your gaining muscle on your program and losing minimal fat, eventually you will start metabolizing more fat at a faster rate. Subsequently, you'll have a higher muscle mass and make it easier long term to both break down the fat initally and keep it off. Good luck to you dont give up, being persistant is really where this is at.

[Torance]

but thats the thing... ur afraid of carbs, carbs are actually good for you and you need some before the gym so u burn fat instead of muscle. Before bed eat cottage cheese, and you need some healthy fats maybe some type of nuts in the morning. I noticed for me that even if you have 1500-1700 cals you still gotta watch those sugars, i ate rasen bran and yoplait yogurt non fat and totaled up to 50-60g of sugar >.> hope that helps.

[ej311]

hmmm...keep going dude..you'll see results..but maybe you're doing it a little further..try making your workout as a habit not a burden..it will make you feel good and make your frustrations gone..and about your diet you can have carbs half of the day but all whole grains no simple carbs..and half the day to evening no carbs unless if you train in the evening. I'm on my 2nd month now and i lost 20 lbs..and still loosing weight..just keep motivated and maybe your girlfriend can help you in your motivation and workouts just like mine..keep doin what you're doin and change workouts for every 2 weeks that's what I have been doin and results are coming faster..so goodluck on your journey man..and be happy ^^..

-ejbrown-

[ericpeavey]

Originally Posted by fatboyslim420

thank you. i appreciate it. excess carbs is obviously bad, right? some people say dont worry bout them, but others different. i opened a fitday account, and have noticed that almost %60 of daily intake is carbs. other 40% divided up into fat and protein. this is probably a big factor in my lack of weight loss, no?

probably huge factor, i only get carbs from veggies and fruit and only take in very little carbs while dieting