*** Deadlifting 101: Instructional videos *** - Page 3

msdmsd · 02-04-2009, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiknskreem

It should be against your leg all the way up and all the way down.

But if you're smacking your knees make sure you are moving your hips back to lower the weight, and not just flexing the knees.

Watch the video.

I've have almost the same problem I almost always "skin" my knees on the way back down but I do move my hips back. I've always attributed it to the fact that I have very long legs and a short torso. Is that a possibility or do I really need to focus on pulling my hips back more?

mcsquared · 02-05-2009, 12:35 PM

Immediately after deadlifting today(I'm still a novice at this lift, only doing 100lbs) I felt a tightness/soreness in my lower back, even during the workout. I'm thinking that I was leaning forward onto my toes when pulling up to my knees/thighs, because when I sat back more onto my heels it felt...better? I'm wearing running shoes(with a squishy heel) so I'm wondering what I could be doing wrong...I'm have a buddy of mine tape my form with a camera next week, so maybe I'll be able to identify the problem then. Thoughts? Thanks!

EddieG200 · 02-07-2009, 09:16 PM

THANKS!! that was awesome!

xuerebx · 02-08-2009, 05:39 AM

Thanks for the videos. Been using them for reference points since last December.

chazzy1864 · 02-09-2009, 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by mcsquared

Immediately after deadlifting today(I'm still a novice at this lift, only doing 100lbs) I felt a tightness/soreness in my lower back, even during the workout. I'm thinking that I was leaning forward onto my toes when pulling up to my knees/thighs, because when I sat back more onto my heels it felt...better? I'm wearing running shoes(with a squishy heel) so I'm wondering what I could be doing wrong...I'm have a buddy of mine tape my form with a camera next week, so maybe I'll be able to identify the problem then. Thoughts? Thanks!

I bolded what is wrong. A running shoe naturally leans you forward. Your heel is elevated which is what you don't want for a deadlift.

Take your shoes off if you don't have a flat soled shoe, for now. I'd suggest buying some wrestling shoes or Chuck taylor's for deadlifting.

danklord · 02-10-2009, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by chazzy1864

. I doubt a baseball player gave up trying to hit the ball out of the park after 4-5 tries.

wait ...yea they did?

jimyd77 · 02-14-2009, 10:28 PM

very helpful thread...thanks for the info!

forgotenaztec · 02-16-2009, 01:02 PM

thanks for the info on dead lifts I never done them , but starting this moday it will be a part of my workout!

RCSCSF · 02-16-2009, 09:32 PM

Doesn't ROM during and RDL or SLDL depend upon hamstring flexibility?? I can assure you that most people who do SLDL all the way to the floor, which i don't agree with to start, cannot complete this without spinal flexion and breaking the flat back rule. And the difference between RDL and SLDL is minimal if at all.

Kiknskreem · 02-17-2009, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by RCSCSF

Doesn't ROM during and RDL or SLDL depend upon hamstring flexibility??

Yes.

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Originally Posted by RCSCSF

I can assure you that most people who do SLDL all the way to the floor, which i don't agree with to start, cannot complete this without spinal flexion and breaking the flat back rule.

While I disagree, if one cannot do an SLDL due to limited flexibility, RDLs are a great option to increase hamstring extensibility, or once can simply elevate the bar a few inchess.

neverfinished · 02-18-2009, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by chazzy1864

I bolded what is wrong. A running shoe naturally leans you forward. Your heel is elevated which is what you don't want for a deadlift.

Take your shoes off if you don't have a flat soled shoe, for now. I'd suggest buying some wrestling shoes or Chuck taylor's for deadlifting.

nooo basketball shoes lean you forward running shoes are for the most part flat and work well for deadlifting or squatting or nethin else you need to do you can lean forward in a running show because it has some elevation towards the front but you need to try to do that,what your talking about are sprinting shoes for like the racing on the track

chazzy1864 · 02-19-2009, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by neverfinished

nooo basketball shoes lean you forward running shoes are for the most part flat and work well for deadlifting or squatting or nethin else you need to do you can lean forward in a running show because it has some elevation towards the front but you need to try to do that,what your talking about are sprinting shoes for like the racing on the track

Seriously? I pray to Buddha this was pure sarcasm and you left out some emoticons.

I said Chuck Taylor's, not basketball shoes. Yes I know Chuck T's, I regarded as basketball shoes, but I pinpointed a particular shoe, not a whole style of shoes. Chuck Taylor's are flat soled shoes.

I am not thinking of sprinting shoes. Here are pictures of your basic run of the mill "running shoe".

Oh, there are plenty more available, but I'll stop with 3. To get those pictures I just typed in Adidas Running shoes, and Nike running shoes into google. Running shoes also have softer soles, to provide cushion for your feet and joints. You DO NOT want a soft sole during deadlifts or squats. I have no clue where you got this information from, because no trainer, famous strength coach, bodybuilder, or anybody, advocates to use soft soled running shoes for these exercises.

BigBoyAdd · 02-19-2009, 06:25 AM

I thought when doing the dead lift you legs had tobend far more then the guy does in the first video. Have I been doing it wrong ?

chazzy1864 · 02-19-2009, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BigBoyAdd

I thought when doing the dead lift you legs had tobend far more then the guy does in the first video. Have I been doing it wrong ?

Seems you're doing a low hip starting position. I do more like Kikn with my hips high. i am stronger that way. Some will advocate that you MUST start with your hips down low, but you don't HAVE to do anything.

Tree_v1 · 02-19-2009, 08:38 AM

Wow this will really help my dead lifts. I'v rdl's the whole time and wondering why my weight seemed so low.

neverfinished · 02-19-2009, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by chazzy1864

Seriously? I pray to Buddha this was pure sarcasm and you left out some emoticons.

I said Chuck Taylor's, not basketball shoes. Yes I know Chuck T's, I regarded as basketball shoes, but I pinpointed a particular shoe, not a whole style of shoes. Chuck Taylor's are flat soled shoes.

I am not thinking of sprinting shoes. Here are pictures of your basic run of the mill "running shoe".

Oh, there are plenty more available, but I'll stop with 3. To get those pictures I just typed in Adidas Running shoes, and Nike running shoes into google. Running shoes also have softer soles, to provide cushion for your feet and joints. You DO NOT want a soft sole during deadlifts or squats. I have no clue where you got this information from, because no trainer, famous strength coach, bodybuilder, or anybody, advocates to use soft soled running shoes for these exercises.

they have always worked fine for me but i see what yuo mean now as far as soft soled go but i have one of those running shoes you posted and those do not make me lean forward at all they are quite flat soled i believe

i have 2 pairs of basketball shoes tho and both put me on the balls of my feet alot i can see how neither would be good for weightlifting tho cuz one tips you forward and other doesnt give you a strong base so maybeh just get some sneakers for weightlifting if it really bothers you or do it barefoot personally running shoes or basketball shoes have never bothered me on squats n deadlifts

jblaisuri · 02-19-2009, 04:12 PM

^^ which one of those shoes would you say has a flat sole??

rubin14 · 02-20-2009, 03:17 PM

Great video...very informative. I had alot of questions about my deadlifting form and this answered them all. I use the addidas in the pic to train in and have not experienced any problems with them

x Idealist x · 02-21-2009, 06:02 PM

Hey I was wondering if anyone had advice on keeping the bar from tearing apart my shins and this is not lookin that great. I have tried sweatpants but that doesn't help. IF you have something I would really appreciate it.

Kiknskreem · 02-21-2009, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by x Idealist x

Hey I was wondering if anyone had advice on keeping the bar from tearing apart my shins and this is not lookin that great. I have tried sweatpants but that doesn't help. IF you have something I would really appreciate it.

Add thick socks or get a bar with softer knurling.

The cut out front of a two liter soda bottle makes a shin guard with negligible thickness but I doubt its necessary. Also, don't dig the bar into your leg, just keep it moving against it.

x Idealist x · 02-21-2009, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiknskreem

Add thick socks or get a bar with softer knurling.

The cut out front of a two liter soda bottle makes a shin guard with negligible thickness but I doubt its necessary. Also, don't dig the bar into your leg, just keep it moving against it.

Alright thanks I try not to dig but you know how it is...reps

csmccabe8 · 02-22-2009, 01:36 PM

hmm has anyone tried a wide leg stance.. having your hands more in the middle and your feet about 5 inches outside of your shoulders?

is this bad? are there any advantages to it?

chazzy1864 · 02-22-2009, 02:50 PM

sumo deadlift?

89tiger89 · 02-22-2009, 06:58 PM

Great post. I found these videos very helpful. Thanks Kiknskreem

logotype702 · 03-01-2009, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by skarotum

Romanian concentrates more on the hamstrings glutes and lower back and involves little leg drive. Knees stay relatively straight(never locked out) and bend at the hip.

http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/...nDeadlift.html

Regular dead lifts, you bend the knees more( less bend at the waist) and use more quads to drive with the legs.

http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/...BDeadlift.html

The exrx website is an excellent resource.

It seems to me that exrx is showing (for the BBDL) more hips movement than the original post shows...or is it my idea? Now I am confused..!!

Kiknskreem · 03-01-2009, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by logotype702

It seems to me that exrx is showing (for the BBDL) more hips movement than the original post shows...or is it my idea? Now I am confused..!!

EXRX is showing a deadlift with the hips low, in the squat position.

Its not the most efficient way to do it and its not the way I'd coach it.

logotype702 · 03-02-2009, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiknskreem

EXRX is showing a deadlift with the hips low, in the squat position.

Its not the most efficient way to do it and its not the way I'd coach it.

Thanks for the reply. I am not an expert, and I've been doing the dl with the hips low (as shown in EXRX), next time I'll try it as you coach it.

Thanks again.

mrbbang · 03-04-2009, 08:55 PM

i'm a huge fan of the deadlift; however, though i breathe properly, i still manage to experience those dreaded weightlifter headaches while i perform them.

i know lifting heavy is the most ideal, but will deadlifting with lighter weights still be an effective workout?

bottom line is, should i still deadlift even if it's not as heavy as i would like it to be? (just to ensure i won't experience those headaches)

justanothagirl · 03-05-2009, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiknskreem

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this guy's form looks different from the one in the exrx website like this:

i copied the exrx's form when deadlifting it feels like a good movement to me... is it ok too? i feel it a lot more in my quads when doing it like this.

the vid i quoted looks like it works the hams more (kinda like romanian deadlifts)

Kiknskreem · 03-05-2009, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by mrbbang

i'm a huge fan of the deadlift; however, though i breathe properly, i still manage to experience those dreaded weightlifter headaches while i perform them.

i know lifting heavy is the most ideal, but will deadlifting with lighter weights still be an effective workout?

bottom line is, should i still deadlift even if it's not as heavy as i would like it to be? (just to ensure i won't experience those headaches)

I don't have any knowledge of weightlifter's headaches, but I know there has been some good discussion of that on Mark Rippetoes forum at Strength Mill forums.

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Originally Posted by justanothagirl

this guy's form looks different from the one in the exrx website like this:

i copied the exrx's form when deadlifting it feels like a good movement to me... is it ok too? i feel it a lot more in my quads when doing it like this.

the vid i quoted looks like it works the hams more (kinda like romanian deadlifts)

See post 86.