Outline of Dave Palumbo's Diet For Cutting - Page 122

ryo1549 · 02-01-2009, 10:13 AM

I have a question. I am thinking of trying this. I weigh around 300 right now. How long do you guys stick with this diet and what do you do afterward so you don't balloon in weight and fat?

pwc · 02-01-2009, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by yoyohello

at first it wasnt to me either, but now it's getting a little too much...if sauces are not allowed, then i wont intake, but if they have no affect (except for taste) then i'm cool with it. no need to unnecessarily torture the body lol

Use sea salt...Walden farms usually available in grocery stores has some good products as well.

yoyohello · 02-01-2009, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by pwc

Use sea salt...Walden farms usually available in grocery stores has some good products as well.

cool. any word on the stims? i was just trying to workout abs, but i feel so unmotivated i have no idea why. would the benefits of taking hydroxycut hardcore outweight the negatives? will it help burn the fat off, while keeping me working hard, or is the cortisol issue that bad?

AngeloBangelo · 02-01-2009, 10:44 AM

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If you are hungry on this diet, you are doing something wrong.

It's actually pretty easy to get hungry on this diet. I'm 7 weeks into my 16 week prep, and I'm hungry a few times a day.

Question for Ethan:

You said you had fries from Arby's and a Chicken/bacon sandwich? I thought Dave said that starchy carbs are off limits, no?

BB2K · 02-01-2009, 11:05 AM

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agreed. i heard some people (competitors) using stims on this diet. what is everyone's opinion on that?

NO stims. Let the food do it.

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Originally Posted by ryo1549

I have a question. I am thinking of trying this. I weigh around 300 right now. How long do you guys stick with this diet and what do you do afterward so you don't balloon in weight and fat?

you can stay on this diet as long as you like, but if you want to come off it, introduced carbs back into your diet slowly. like 50g a day at the most.

eds133 · 02-01-2009, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BB2K

NO stims. Let the food do it.

you can stay on this diet as long as you like, but if you want to come off it, introduced carbs back into your diet slowly. like 50g a day at the most.

i forget where i read it but i think dave says to introduce carbs 25g on one meal per day and progress over a 2 wk span to where you have 25g per meal.

yoyohello · 02-01-2009, 01:03 PM

man i keep hearing mixed answers about taking stims while on this diet. basically, a stimulant is something with caffeine right? but you can have coffee on this diet, so that is another reason of question. just wanna get the best results, if Dave says no hydroxycut, then no it is; just looking for a straight answer. i would def. work out better if i took it. maybe i'll just wait till the last 4 weeks before i start taking it; that's what everyone seems to do

..KOA.. · 02-01-2009, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by yoyohello

cool. any word on the stims? i was just trying to workout abs, but i feel so unmotivated i have no idea why. would the benefits of taking hydroxycut hardcore outweight the negatives? will it help burn the fat off, while keeping me working hard, or is the cortisol issue that bad?

I used caffeine (red bull no sugar and monster 0 carb drinks) for the entire 8 weeks I was on Palumbo diet. It seemed to help keep me thermogenic and help big time with the fat burning during training. Heres a pic of myself after 8 weeks on this diet. Not sure of my body fat % but I'm guessing around 10 or 11 %.

yoyohello · 02-01-2009, 01:31 PM

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I used caffeine (red bull no sugar and monster 0 carb drinks) for the entire 8 weeks I was on Palumbo diet. It seemed to help keep me thermogenic and help big time with the fat burning during training. Heres a pic of myself after 8 weeks on this diet. Not sure of my body fat % but I'm guessing around 10 or 11 %.

thats awesome man; do you think your results would be different if you didnt use the stims?

..KOA.. · 02-01-2009, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by eds133

i forget where i read it but i think dave says to introduce carbs 25g on one meal per day and progress over a 2 wk span to where you have 25g per meal.

That sounds like a good plan. I injured myself while on this diet and could not train. I began eating like **** with plenty of carbs and gained 11 pounds of pure fat in like two weeks. You definitely have to reintroduce carbs slowly.

..KOA.. · 02-01-2009, 01:35 PM

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thats awesome man; do you think your results would be different if you didnt use the stims?

I think so because I was definitely feeling a little drained and unmotivated once I started the diet. The caffeine had me jacked and attacking the weights and giving me energy all the way thru my cardio sessions of 40mins to an hour.

yoyohello · 02-01-2009, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ..KOA..

I think so because I was definitely feeling a little drained and unmotivated once I started the diet. The caffeine had me jacked and attacking the weights and giving me energy all the way thru my cardio sessions of 40mins to an hour.

what about the whole issue with cortisol??

..KOA.. · 02-01-2009, 01:47 PM

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what about the whole issue with cortisol??

The hormone cortisol has been studied for years and there are studies that suggest it increases weight gain and some say it does nothing at all. So if I were you, try some stims for the first couple of weeks to increase your energy for training. If you notice any adverse affects while on this diet cut them out.

yoyohello · 02-01-2009, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ..KOA..

The hormone cortisol has been studied for years and there are studies that suggest it increases weight gain and some say it does nothing at all. So if I were you, try some stims for the first couple of weeks to increase your energy for training. If you notice any adverse affects while on this diet cut them out.

i thought the problem with cortisol (for us) was that it broke down muscle tissue...am i wrong on this?

..KOA.. · 02-01-2009, 02:00 PM

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i thought the problem with cortisol (for us) was that it broke down muscle tissue...am i wrong on this?

I just went back and read the first post again and you are correct. Cortisol also will slow down your fat loss making you have to stay on the diet longer. I kept my protein intake a little higher then the diet calls for with one extra 50g shake a day and a can of tuna every other day and lost very little muscle. I was drinking a lot of caffeine on this diet because I'm a stim junkie

I say take the stims if you need an energy boost!

yoyohello · 02-01-2009, 02:14 PM

LOLOLOL i think i'll use it as the recommended "last resort", after pro/veg days stop working lol (maybe 8-10 weeks from now)

iamjason82 · 02-01-2009, 07:05 PM

how many weeks into this diet can i have my cheat meal??? i think someone told me after 2 weeks into this diet, 3rd week i should go w/ the cheat meal? or can i have it first week into it? thanks again guys!

Ethan Carr · 02-01-2009, 09:28 PM

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how many weeks into this diet can i have my cheat meal??? i think someone told me after 2 weeks into this diet, 3rd week i should go w/ the cheat meal? or can i have it first week into it? thanks again guys!

Go clean for 2 weeks then you can have your first cheat meal. After that, once a week, last meal of the day.

yoyohello · 02-02-2009, 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Ethan Carr

Go clean for 2 weeks then you can have your first cheat meal. After that, once a week, last meal of the day.

hey how long does your PB last you?? im not sure if my tbsp measuring is accurate lol

how big is the jar and how many tbsp's do you average with it?
thanks

jipp · 02-02-2009, 04:34 AM

It depends how much peanutbutter you use each meal. A 3lb jar would last me about 1.5-2 weeks since I only use pb for 3 of my meals. Also, a tblsp pb should be 28g.

yoyohello · 02-02-2009, 05:06 AM

i heard 1 tbsp is 16g......anyway, i'm gonna buy a scale to measure all my food; any suggestions?? is one type better than the other or should any digital scale work? what do you guys think about this one?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Salter-Desig...3574338&sr=8-2

thanks

jipp · 02-02-2009, 05:50 AM

Sorry, your right 16g is 1tblsp. I was thnking about how much I take for 15g of fat. That scale looks fine but I got mines at a local walgreens for 5 bux and I gets the job done.

yoyohello · 02-02-2009, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jipp

Sorry, your right 16g is 1tblsp. I was thnking about how much I take for 15g of fat. That scale looks fine but I got mines at a local walgreens for 5 bux and I gets the job done.

cool thanks man

Ethan Carr · 02-02-2009, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by yoyohello

hey how long does your PB last you?? im not sure if my tbsp measuring is accurate lol

how big is the jar and how many tbsp's do you average with it?
thanks

Mine last me about a week. That is the big jar, I get the smuckers brand from Wal-Mart for about tree fiddy.

iamjason82 · 02-02-2009, 08:00 AM

okay another question!

any of you guys taking any supplements for electrolytes? 3rd day in and i'm cramping up in my legs, maybe from my workout last week.

thanks!

Ethan Carr · 02-02-2009, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by iamjason82

okay another question!

any of you guys taking any supplements for electrolytes? 3rd day in and i'm cramping up in my legs, maybe from my workout last week.

thanks!

No I don't, but maybe you should stretch out more and drink more water. This diet shouldn't cause you to cramp, it would be something like lack of water or not stretching enough.

iamjason82 · 02-02-2009, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Ethan Carr

No I don't, but maybe you should stretch out more and drink more water. This diet shouldn't cause you to cramp, it would be something like lack of water or not stretching enough.

okay yeah maybe from not enough water. thanks!

yoyohello · 02-02-2009, 08:29 AM

my digital kitchen scale comes in the mail tomorrow; goodbye to always wondering if my tablespoon of PB is actually a tbsp, or more/less, and also the chicken and salmon MUAHHAHA

question: if i weigh the chicken drumsticks (with bone), boil it, eat it, and then weigh out the bone (after boiling and eating), and subtract the difference, will that give me the weight of chicken i ate, or does boiling do something to the weight of the bone?

Ethan Carr · 02-02-2009, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by yoyohello

my digital kitchen scale comes in the mail tomorrow; goodbye to always wondering if my tablespoon of PB is actually a tbsp, or more/less, and also the chicken and salmon MUAHHAHA

question: if i weigh the chicken drumsticks (with bone), boil it, eat it, and then weigh out the bone (after boiling and eating), and subtract the difference, will that give me the weight of chicken i ate, or does boiling do something to the weight of the bone?

Just weigh your food cooked. Take the chicken off the bone and weight it out.

ryo1549 · 02-02-2009, 09:07 AM

Did you guys use any supplements on this diet? i currently take fish oils, vitimins, CLAs and I have chromium coming in. I wont be starting this diet til after my trip home late feb.