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Old 01-27-2009, 06:44 AM   #1
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This sound right to everyone??

Well i figured out my bmr with my activity level and it was 4705. I'm 5'10" at 294. From what I read if I reduce that by 1000 calories, I should lose 2 pounds per week. I workout five days a week and do cardio 5 days a week also. Well I made it diet and dam is it alot of food, by the time i get to dinner I am full and have to force my way to it. Heres my diet, tell me if it sounds right. Also, what's the latest you can eat dinner? Thanks alot guys.

Wake up:
1 scoop whey protein
8 oz. whole milk

Breakfast:
4 egg whites
2 large eggs w/ yolk
1 cup oatmeal

Snack:
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16 oz. whole milk
1 tbsp. peanut butter
1 slice whole grain bread

Lunch:
8 oz. chicken breast
1 cup brown rice
1 cup corn

Snack:
4 slices of turkey(4 oz.)
2 slices whole grain wheat bread

Pre Workout:
1 scoop whey protein
8 oz. whole milk
1 cup mixed fuit
1 scoop NO XPLODE

During Wokout:
2 scoops VOLUMAIZE

Post Workout:
2 scoops Whey protein w/ water
1 scoop CELL MASS

Dinner:
8 oz chicken breast
1 cup brwon rice
1/2 cup corn
1/2 cup green beans

Before Bed:
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Old 01-27-2009, 06:51 AM   #2
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Well i figured out my bmr with my activity level and it was 4705. I'm 5'10" at 294. From what I read if I reduce that by 1000 calories, I should lose 2 pounds per week. I workout five days a week and do cardio 5 days a week also. Well I made it diet and dam is it alot of food, by the time i get to dinner I am full and have to force my way to it. Heres my diet, tell me if it sounds right. Also, what's the latest you can eat dinner? Thanks alot guys.

Wake up:
1 scoop whey protein
8 oz. whole milk

Breakfast:
4 egg whites
2 large eggs w/ yolk
1 cup oatmeal

Snack:
2 scoops whey protein
16 oz. whole milk
1 tbsp. peanut butter
1 slice whole grain bread

Lunch:
8 oz. chicken breast
1 cup brown rice
1 cup corn

Snack:
4 slices of turkey(4 oz.)
2 slices whole grain wheat bread

Pre Workout:
1 scoop whey protein
8 oz. whole milk
1 cup mixed fuit
1 scoop NO XPLODE

During Wokout:
2 scoops VOLUMAIZE

Post Workout:
2 scoops Whey protein w/ water
1 scoop CELL MASS

Dinner:
8 oz chicken breast
1 cup brwon rice
1/2 cup corn
1/2 cup green beans

Before Bed:
1/2 cup cottage cheese
just watch the sugar content in all the supps ur taking
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Old 01-27-2009, 07:01 AM   #3
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Well i figured out my bmr with my activity level and it was 4705. I'm 5'10" at 294. From what I read if I reduce that by 1000 calories, I should lose 2 pounds per week. I workout five days a week and do cardio 5 days a week also. Well I made it diet and dam is it alot of food, by the time i get to dinner I am full and have to force my way to it. Heres my diet, tell me if it sounds right. Also, what's the latest you can eat dinner? Thanks alot guys.

Wake up:
1 scoop whey protein
8 oz. whole milk

Breakfast:
4 egg whites
2 large eggs w/ yolk
1 cup oatmeal

Snack:
2 scoops whey protein
16 oz. whole milk
1 tbsp. peanut butter
1 slice whole grain bread

Lunch:
8 oz. chicken breast
1 cup brown rice
1 cup corn

Snack:
4 slices of turkey(4 oz.)
2 slices whole grain wheat bread

Pre Workout:
1 scoop whey protein
8 oz. whole milk
1 cup mixed fuit
1 scoop NO XPLODE

During Wokout:
2 scoops VOLUMAIZE

Post Workout:
2 scoops Whey protein w/ water
1 scoop CELL MASS

Dinner:
8 oz chicken breast
1 cup brwon rice
1/2 cup corn
1/2 cup green beans

Before Bed:
1/2 cup cottage cheese

Ya also related to sugar something I never thought about when I first started was how much Sugar Milk has and I was drinking skim already. Seems like a lot of supplements through out the day, but that is just me.

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The only gripe I have with it is your bmr I am 6.3 eating 2500 calories on a cut with the gym 5 times a week and i lose roughly 2 pounds every 10 days your calorie intake seems quite high but if your hammering the gym like you say you are it should balance out I guess. I also reckon you're having too many supplements but go with it for a few weeks if it doesn't work out redo it
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Ya also related to sugar something I never thought about when I first started was how much Sugar Milk has and I was drinking skim already. Seems like a lot of supplements through out the day, but that is just me.

Good luck man
That's what I hate about Torrent, it's has something like 42 grams of sugar, supposedly to replenish glycogen... sh... prolly causes me not too lose in some cases.
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Old 01-27-2009, 08:21 AM   #6
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Well my bmr is like 25?? but then it says to factor in you excercise level(moderate 3-5 days a week for me) and that multiplies you bmr by like 1.65 i think which gets me at 4705, then i deduct the 1000. So this diet doesn't seem crazy to anyone? I was afraid it was too much.
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Are you being 100% honest with yourself with your activity level? Don't bull**** yourself because in the end, you're the one that will end up paying. From what I have seen, most people tend to GREATLY overestimate their activity level.

They'll say stuff like they go to a gym 2 hours a day, etc. But you look deeper into it, and 1 of those two hours is bull****ting with people between sets, taking rests, using the bathroom, getting water, changing, etc.
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Are you being 100% honest with yourself with your activity level? Don't bull**** yourself because in the end, you're the one that will end up paying. From what I have seen, most people tend to GREATLY overestimate their activity level.

They'll say stuff like they go to a gym 2 hours a day, etc. But you look deeper into it, and 1 of those two hours is bull****ting with people between sets, taking rests, using the bathroom, getting water, changing, etc.
What he said ^^

Good point bro, I basically am running circles super setting and rest lil to none while lifting, there's tons of ppl that take way too long to accomplish so little.
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1.65 (165%) = Moderate: Walking, jogging, gardening type job with activities such as cycling, tennis, dancing, skiing or weight training 1-2 hours per day

Sounds about right to me. I dont just sit by the water fountain trying to pick up girls if that's what your implying. In fact i hate when somone is using the incline then decide they want to catch up with a friend they saw and if you say anything your a dick. I mean I give the occasional "whats up" and handshake but nothing more than a minute.
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Are you being 100% honest with yourself with your activity level? Don't bull**** yourself because in the end, you're the one that will end up paying. From what I have seen, most people tend to GREATLY overestimate their activity level.

They'll say stuff like they go to a gym 2 hours a day, etc. But you look deeper into it, and 1 of those two hours is bull****ting with people between sets, taking rests, using the bathroom, getting water, changing, etc.
I was going to mention that. If you overestimate your activity level, your BMR will come out too high, which in turn will make your caloric intake too high. If it seems like too much food and you have trouble getting it all in, chances are, it's too much.

I'm a trainer and it happens all the time. What I usually do is start them off based on their activity being "sedentary". I'll have them try that for two weeks and if it seems like it's not enough, I'll keep bumping the calories up by incriments of 200 until it seems about right.

Or you can calculate your RESTING metabolic rate and use that number as your daily caloric intake. So you know that as long as you don't lay in a bed all day, you will always be burning more than what you're eating.

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so then i can just stick with 26?? calories? but wont my body just save up calories since i wont have enough energy?
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1.65 (165%) = Moderate: Walking, jogging, gardening type job with activities such as cycling, tennis, dancing, skiing or weight training 1-2 hours per day...
When they say moderate walking / jogging / gardening job, think of a job like a mailman or UPS delivery guy, where you are literally walking around a great portion of your 8 hour daily shift. And then ON TOP of that, you come home and do something such as cycling, lifting, tennis for 2 more hours. So if you are on your feet and on the move, or at least doing some sort of activity like that for 8 or so hours in addition to getting 1 - 2 more hours of exercise, then I'd say it would be safe to use that number. Otherwise, tone it down quite a bit to have more success.

As mentioned above, some people (myself included) ended up using what the calculator claimed was my RMR to lose weight. It listed my RMR somewhere around 2000 calories. So on light days I'd eat that and jog. on heavy days I'd eat about 2200 - 2300 and lift for an hour followed by HIIT. I lost 2lbs per week for 10 weeks straight until I decided to stop my cut at 10% bodyfat.
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That is alot of supplements you are having there.

If you are planning on eating 3700 calories per day to lose weight then you are soon going to find out that calculators are not that accurate.

You will be better of at about 2500. Try it at 3700 and see your results but dont be suprised if you dont lose anything.

The diet/workout actually looks all right and it seems that you have put some effort into it which is great. You honestly done need all of that protein every day. You can build plenty of muscle without it. Just get your protein from beef, chicken, fish, pork. Its alot more satisfying.

Worse case scenario here is that you will gain a bit with this many cals. Then you will know how much you need to trim it down to hit your goal.

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well i just found out my rmr is 2772. so should i deduct the 500 from there of just figure out my diet to be 27-3000 calories a day? Thanks guys.
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Aim for 2700 - 2800 to see where that puts you. Then make slight adjustments from there. Unfortnately, it's going to take a little time to figure out what works for you. It took me a couple weeks. But it's worth putting in the time and effort, rather than blindly relying on a calculator that could be way off.
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Thanks alot Kenai603, cuz i have to admit. Trying to eat 3700 calories a day is harder than it sounds.
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Look, save yourself the worry and just make a best guess on the calories and go from there. The calculators are just a guide for an initial starting point.

Pick a caloric level, stick to it, and see what it does for you. If in 2 weeks you havent lost any, reduce your daily caloric intake. If you lost 10lbs, you might want to increase it a bit.


Here is your answer.

Pick a caloric level. Log your calories. Log your weight and body measurements. Review log periodically to see if you are meeting your goals. Adjust. Repeat.
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Thanks alot Kenai603, cuz i have to admit. Trying to eat 3700 calories a day is harder than it sounds.
You don't have to tell me! I finished my cut when I got to right around 9.5% bodyfat. I'm on a bulk now and hovering around 10% bodyfat. But because I am on a bulk I also have to eat 3500 - 4000 clean calories per day. Been three weeks so far and it's not easy. But I must be doing something right because the strength is going up pretty fast while the fat seems to be slow to come on (if at all.)
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You don't have to tell me! I finished my cut when I got to right around 9.5% bodyfat. I'm on a bulk now and hovering around 10% bodyfat. But because I am on a bulk I also have to eat 3500 - 4000 clean calories per day. Been three weeks so far and it's not easy. But I must be doing something right because the strength is going up pretty fast while the fat seems to be slow to come on (if at all.)
Wish that was the same for me, I know if I'm putting on that many calories I turn to lard, my next bulk I will gradually increase and watch it closer.
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Old 01-27-2009, 12:29 PM   #20
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Wish that was the same for me, I know if I'm putting on that many calories I turn to lard, my next bulk I will gradually increase and watch it closer.
Judging by your blog and sig, I'd say you're doing pretty good.
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Judging by your blog and sig, I'd say you're doing pretty good.
Well maybe I feel like lard, LOL, at 210 I didn't like tying my shoes... You know what they say though if you're gaining about 5-7lbs in a month it's more or less fat. I know us naturally we could only put on 1-2lbs of muscle a month. This next time I bulk I'm looking for the 1-2lbs a month...
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