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Old 01-21-2009, 12:20 PM   #991
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I,m taking a cycle of Tren extreme and AH-89 from Amercell-Labs for 1 or 2 months not sure ..I want to avoid a Test shut down (my wife would be totally pissed)..I need a good combination of OTC type of PCT ( I don't have access to Pharms just like the the majority of people)something I can get from Max Mucle/Nutrishops/GNC not online purchase. I used something from M-M called Andro extreme(not a PH) Novadex,and good Ol Enyzete (Big Bob Pills) seemed to work everything came back to normal . I want to avoid a Test Shutdown completely this time. Can I get Info on what to buy,Where to buy it,and when to take it in my 1 or 2 month cycle??
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Old 01-21-2009, 01:23 PM   #993
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I,m taking a cycle of Tren extreme and AH-89 from Amercell-Labs for 1 or 2 months not sure ..I want to avoid a Test shut down (my wife would be totally pissed)..I need a good combination of OTC type of PCT ( I don't have access to Pharms just like the the majority of people)something I can get from Max Mucle/Nutrishops/GNC not online purchase. I used something from M-M called Andro extreme(not a PH) Novadex,and good Ol Enyzete (Big Bob Pills) seemed to work everything came back to normal . I want to avoid a Test Shutdown completely this time. Can I get Info on what to buy,Where to buy it,and when to take it in my 1 or 2 month cycle??
I took tren extreme and mass extreme and for pct i took estro extreme. that's all i was told to take but i would suggest taking a nat test as well. the estro extreme pills were pretty spendy tho so if u'r looking for a cheaper otc pct i would go with Reversitol by I-force and n1-T universal for a test booster. u can order them from bb.com. this is what the guy from bb.com recommended to me but adrenolin knows his **** and i'm sure he'll respond to u later. he's helped me out a lot so i would go with whatever he says.
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Google is a great place to find a source for those RESEARCH CHEMICALS.
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over the counter for PCT

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I,m taking a cycle of Tren extreme and AH-89 from Amercell-Labs for 1 or 2 months not sure ..I want to avoid a Test shut down (my wife would be totally pissed)..I need a good combination of OTC type of PCT ( I don't have access to Pharms just like the the majority of people)something I can get from Max Mucle/Nutrishops/GNC not online purchase. I used something from M-M called Andro extreme(not a PH) Novadex,and good Ol Enyzete (Big Bob Pills) seemed to work everything came back to normal . I want to avoid a Test Shutdown completely this time. Can I get Info on what to buy,Where to buy it,and when to take it in my 1 or 2 month cycle??
Internet sources are really the only place you can get quality pct products.
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I,m taking a cycle of Tren extreme and AH-89 from Amercell-Labs for 1 or 2 months not sure ..I want to avoid a Test shut down (my wife would be totally pissed)..I need a good combination of OTC type of PCT ( I don't have access to Pharms just like the the majority of people)something I can get from Max Mucle/Nutrishops/GNC not online purchase. I used something from M-M called Andro extreme(not a PH) Novadex,and good Ol Enyzete (Big Bob Pills) seemed to work everything came back to normal . I want to avoid a Test Shutdown completely this time. Can I get Info on what to buy,Where to buy it,and when to take it in my 1 or 2 month cycle??
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over the counter for PCT

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I,m taking a cycle of Tren extreme and AH-89 from Amercell-Labs for 1 or 2 months not sure ..I want to avoid a Test shut down (my wife would be totally pissed)..I need a good combination of OTC type of PCT ( I don't have access to Pharms just like the the majority of people)something I can get from Max Mucle/Nutrishops/GNC not online purchase. I used something from M-M called Andro extreme(not a PH) Novadex,and good Ol Enyzete (Big Bob Pills) seemed to work everything came back to normal . I want to avoid a Test Shutdown completely this time. Can I get Info on what to buy,Where to buy it,and when to take it in my 1 or 2 month cycle??
Patience is a Virtue.
I can assure you that if you run this cycle longer than 4wks, you will be shutdown. The best OTC PCT products will only be found online...you NEED either Reversitol or PCT Assist, and a Tbooster. As soon as you notice any loss of libido or anything thats when you need to jump on the tboosters.

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Old 01-21-2009, 05:00 PM   #997
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Should Arimatest be taken in the morning, then before lifting or at night and before lifting?
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I'm thinking about try my first pro-hormone from LG as well.
But I can never swallow pills, so I need to find a power.
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try tfsupplements.com. Also, that just may have been how his body worked and reacted, im sure his numbers would relay a different story. But some people will do a cycle and get no sides while others will get some gyno, thats why its always recommended to have a SERM on hand in case something is going wrong.
yeah thats what i said!! Man like i said im in the UK, not the usa, and sadly here everything is 10 times the price and harder to find! Do u not think my OTC PCT is ok for this cycle of epi??
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well im trying to decide which ph to take this will be my 2nd ph. I took 3ad and didnt gain much of nothing accept of course off my diet. I stuck between the 2 bold and testabolin v2 stack or demethazine? Also kind of scared though because had my blood pressure tested at cvs it was 144/85 first reading then the second reading was 131/75 so i dont know about that one lol!! I think it might be the supps that im taking though currently taking:supercharge extreme,size on , and glycergrow . So iam thinking its because of the gg and size on maybe the glyerol in it? But anyways i would really like people's opinion on this! (thanks for the help)
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yeah thats what i said!! Man like i said im in the UK, not the usa, and sadly here everything is 10 times the price and harder to find! Do u not think my OTC PCT is ok for this cycle of epi??
I would personally, for havoc, use post cycle support, I3C and novedex no matter what, and then the additionals that you can afford. (I only mentioned the post cycle assist and w/e else b/c i've heard it is better, but havent actually used it myself). When I ran havoc + bold my pct consisted of an 11-oxo bridge, post cycle support, I3C, reversitol, 6-oxo and all was good.
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When I ran havoc + bold my pct consisted of an 11-oxo bridge, post cycle support, I3C, reversitol, 6-oxo and all was good.
11-oxo is a PH, it should not be a part of your PCT.
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11-oxo is a PH, it should not be a part of your PCT.

i think technically it could be used at 3/day as part of a PCT, but you're right in that it might not be your best bet for cortisol control during PCT.
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i think technically it could be used at 3/day as part of a PCT, but you're right in that it might not be your best bet for cortisol control during PCT.
you guys know what I meant! guess I worded it incorrectly... so what i did was ran havoc/bold, then 11-oxo to bridge INTO my PCT (11-oxo wasn't part of my pct) which consisted of reversitol, pct support, i3c, 6-oxo, cycle support. :-P

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Tren/Phera Stack OR Dymethazine

I was wondering if I should go with Tren/Phera stack or go for Dymethazine. I can get my hands on Dyme!!! As soon as I hear back, I will make a purchase.

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I was wondering if I should go with Tren/Phera stack or go for Dymethazine. I can get my hands on Dyme!!! As soon as I hear back, I will make a purchase.

Thanks so much for great help as always.
Theres not been really a good amount of reviews/logs for dymethazine but it looks to be pretty good. Considering Dymethazine is less harsh and you can use Reversitol as PCT, I say go for it over Tren/Phera but just my opinion.

Plus it wont cost as much
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Hey Andrenolin, I picked up some jungle warfare before i read this thread. Hasn't been talked about much on here, except you said "it was nothing special" and it was left alone.. There is some debate on this site, different thread with some Dr. X , a dutch *** practicing in Bangok, anyway just curious what you thought and any suggestions you might offer on taking jungle warfare dosage, pct, assist? thnx also what are you taking, and how r u responding?
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Hey Ad, You said something of a cycle with superdrol. Are you talking the new NG or the old and good superdrol? If its the old is there anyway you can inform me on where to get it and the price?
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Need help with first ph cycle for cutting

This is a great thread! But really new to this and head is spinning.

Want to do a first cycle of ph. Goal is to recomp (lose fat while keeping or increasing muscle)

age = 40 yrs. old (test boosters???)

what is a good cycle?

how effective is clenbuterol?

what should the PCT be?

Need to lose about 35 lbs.

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Adrenolin just wondering but on your Epistane/Furazadrol cycle...How did you stack fat burners with it?? I mean isn't Epistane and Furazadrol both dry compounds?? Did your joints hurt at all??

What all support supps did you take with this cycle??
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Hey Andrenolin, I picked up some jungle warfare before i read this thread. Hasn't been talked about much on here, except you said "it was nothing special" and it was left alone.. There is some debate on this site, different thread with some Dr. X , a dutch *** practicing in Bangok, anyway just curious what you thought and any suggestions you might offer on taking jungle warfare dosage, pct, assist? thnx also what are you taking, and how r u responding?
I've taken JW I didn't notice a thing until I upped it to 6caps (double max dose) in the third week. Maybe I just didn't rspond well to it, but I don't think its as effective as h-drol or epistane or any of the other well ph/ds.

I am not currently on anything, but am setting up a cycle (Super Stack) planned for March. It'll be the last one for 8-10mos.

Orig. P6 Black {1-Test 175mg, Tren (19nor) 90mg, Bold 200mg} 6wks
Havoc/Epistane 30mg 6wks
Furazadrol 300mg 1st 4wks
Clenbuterol 80-140mcg last 3wks

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Hey Ad, You said something of a cycle with superdrol. Are you talking the new NG or the old and good superdrol? If its the old is there anyway you can inform me on where to get it and the price?
Yes, I ran Orig. AX Superdrol stacked w/ Xtreme Tren back in November. I bought it for like $25 a few years ago (wasn't even using PH/DS at the time), I doubt you'll be able to find it now at a decent price....

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This is a great thread! But really new to this and head is spinning.
Want to do a first cycle of ph. Goal is to recomp (lose fat while keeping or increasing muscle)
age = 40 yrs. old (test boosters???)
what is a good cycle?
how effective is clenbuterol?
what should the PCT be?
Need to lose about 35 lbs.
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Adrenolin just wondering but on your Epistane/Furazadrol cycle...How did you stack fat burners with it?? I mean isn't Epistane and Furazadrol both dry compounds?? Did your joints hurt at all??
What all support supps did you take with this cycle??
I'm pretty immune towards sides...Ephedrine 100mg, Caffeine 800mg, and Aspirin 650mg worked very nicely. Joints may have been a little sore towards the end of the cycle..but nothing bad, by any means.

I was on a Joint Support Complex for 2months prior to the cycle (they take a long time to kick in) and all the way thru the cycle till about two weeks after pct. I was also taking Cycle Support the entire cycle. That was it.
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what?
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Adrenolin just wondering but on your Epistane/Furazadrol cycle...How did you stack fat burners with it?? I mean isn't Epistane and Furazadrol both dry compounds?? Did your joints hurt at all??

What all support supps did you take with this cycle??
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answered that a few posts above.
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Adrenoline. I have a bottle on epistane. my first ph. will you correct me if i have anything wrong. i will run cycle support 2 weeks before through 2 weeks after on a 4-6 week cycle. for pct i will use reversitol as recommended on the bottle (3/2/2/1) Also stacking with whey protein and vitamins.

My main concern are side effects before and after but i heard epi was not as harsh as the other phs. True or not?
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My main concern are side effects before and after but i heard epi was not as harsh as the other phs. True or not?
Yes, it is much less harsh than many of the other ph's on the market..most of the sides will be minimized thru the use of cycle support.
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