Olympic Lifts VS Powerlifting for your sport?

[VICREP]

What style of lifting do you think would be more important for your sport or just all sports in general?

Don't think about difficulty in learnig technique etc. Purely benefits

IMO if you had to choose one it would be Oly lifts.

[Loswaldo]

Well I'm pretty sure even powerlifters train using Oly lifts.

They are great lifts, I almost wish my mate gym was a bit bigger so that I could do some. Definatly will in he summer as I can do them outside.

[SuicideGripMe]

Disregarding the fact that oly lifts are very hard to learn, Id say Powerlifting. Powerlifting does allow for explosive movements such as DE days. Also, powerlifters do use some oly lifts as accessory lifts. In an ideal world however, I think any athlete should train in both powerlifting and oly lifting. Hell I dont know how to a proper snatch or great power clean, but hang cleans and DB snatches I can do!

[qdiddy69]

well it definitely depends, both are usefull. If you want to add more strength then of course powerlifting, if you wanna train explosiveness the olympic lifting no athlete is complete without working both strength and explosiveness so they both help in their own way

[Fullback7]

Originally Posted by Loswaldo

Well I'm pretty sure even powerlifters train using Oly lifts.

They are great lifts, I almost wish my mate gym was a bit bigger so that I could do some. Definatly will in he summer as I can do them outside.

No, no they don't.

Kind of a broad topic, but PL is much more beneficial in injury prevention, recomp, and can promote the same degree of power.

[pumped12]

Originally Posted by Fullback7

No, no they don't.

Kind of a broad topic, but PL is much more beneficial in injury prevention, recomp, and can promote the same degree of power.

wow i honestly figured they did too, lol o well i wonder if ur a powerlifter maybe you should incorporate oly lifts tho? iunno hah

[qdiddy69]

Originally Posted by pumped12

wow i honestly figured they did too, lol o well i wonder if ur a powerlifter maybe you should incorporate oly lifts tho? iunno hah

some pl use basic olympic lifts to increase explosiveness but only enough to help them with their basic 3. ie if a powerlifter is stuck at the bottom of his squats he might do power cleans for a few weeks so he gains enough explosiveness so he wont have this problem anymore

[VICREP]

Originally Posted by qdiddy69

some pl use basic olympic lifts to increase explosiveness but only enough to help them with their basic 3. ie if a powerlifter is stuck at the bottom of his squats he might do power cleans for a few weeks so he gains enough explosiveness so he wont have this problem anymore

Thats what they use DE days for. Helps them explode through there sticking point.

PL's very rarely use O lifts

[The_LB_43]

Power
all the way

[dcamnc]

Olympic lifters use powerlifter type squat routines, and they pull from the floor so much that you don't really need deadlifts unless you're weak in the first pull. The only thing most o-lifting routines lack is a good bench workout. So IMO, o-lifting + bench would be the best of both worlds. Like suicidegripme said, o-lifts are quite hard to learn properly, but it can be done with work and study.

[squat4speed]

both

[dgcoats]

I know everyone preaches power cleans, but does anyone here do the snatch? Hardest lift to do IMO.

[VICREP]

Originally Posted by dgcoats

I know everyone preaches power cleans, but does anyone here do the snatch? Hardest lift to do IMO.

Yeah couldnt agree more.

Especially the balance when you have the bar over your head. OH squats are hard

[cbiedess]

I do hang cleans/1 armed DB snatches...but i prefer DE days

[ericmeister3000]

i would say the olympic lifts



the fact that many o-lifters over 300 lbs have verticals over 35 inches makes me wonder why more people dont use the o-lifts


while i definitely think the powerlifts should not be neglected, i think they are all basically covered in the o lifts (deadlifts-->pulling off the floor in all lifts, squats-->catching lifts in a squat + oly squats, bech-->OH pushing, jerking, etc)



just my $.02

[HydroStorm]

oly for sports... most sports rely on explosiveness so... def oly lifts, but like said earlier, neither should be neglected

[IGF-WON]

well if your sport requires you to move heavy things with mweight being the limiting factor (maybe a lineman) id say powerlifting. If you have to move medium weights, but explosively, o-lifting. and if you have to move low weight extremely explosively, id go o-lifting or just a base of strength + plyo's

Originally Posted by ericmeister3000

i would say the olympic lifts

the fact that many o-lifters over 300 lbs have verticals over 35 inches makes me wonder why more people dont use the o-lifts

while i definitely think the powerlifts should not be neglected, i think they are all basically covered in the o lifts (deadlifts-->pulling off the floor in all lifts, squats-->catching lifts in a squat + oly squats, bech-->OH pushing, jerking, etc)

just my $.02

well they do have great genetics, but those huge guys jumping that high is one thing that makes me want to do olympic weightlifting

[roid_monkey]

unless your sport is powerlifting oly lifts for sure

[Fullback7]

Originally Posted by ericmeister3000

i would say the olympic lifts



the fact that many o-lifters over 300 lbs have verticals over 35 inches makes me wonder why more people dont use the o-lifts


while i definitely think the powerlifts should not be neglected, i think they are all basically covered in the o lifts (deadlifts-->pulling off the floor in all lifts, squats-->catching lifts in a squat + oly squats, bech-->OH pushing, jerking, etc)



just my $.02

PL's in the 300's have been jumping on 40+ inch boxes with DB's in hand at Westside BB Club for years.

It all comes down to power. Strength x Speed. I believe you can replicate it in both, and come out with the same output of power, while taking the individual variable for each common sequence of sport.

[IGF-WON]

Originally Posted by Fullback7

PL's in the 300's have been jumping on 40+ inch boxes with DB's in hand at Westside BB Club for years.

It all comes down to power. Strength x Speed. I believe you can replicate it in both, and come out with the same output of power, while taking the individual variable for each common sequence of sport.

but in some sports, you only have a certain amount of time to display the strength, so the speed portion becomes more important since its the limiting factor

[VICREP]

It probably just comes down to whether or not the PLing routine you use has DE Lifts.

Then you could probably gain equal benefits.

[sonnymarkus777]

I started as a powerlifter back in the day. In the basement gym of the Boy's Club of Pittsburgh 1966 - 1972. We had powerlifters, olympic lifters, and bodybuilders - all in the same gym dungeon. It was great - each group verbally abused each other. Bodybuilders took the most abuse!- hey pretty boy,etc.

All were dedicated, all worked very hard. Those who persevered were successful. The most explosive, and the ones with the most injuries, were the Olympic lifters.

As I saw the body types of the older powerliters , I opted to go for bodybuilding.

[andydreamchaser]

Personally, I incorporate both olympic-styled lifting, & powerlifting, during my training sessions, especially due part by my strength & conditioning coach whom is inclined towards performing both. What I like about our strenght & conditioning class is that we were more induced towards using the straight barbell in all our movements (except deadlifts & days when we train for resistance, endurance, etc.)!

We also inlude kettlebells but almost never use dumbbells somehow, since we are more inclined towards compound movements.

[jgood]

For explosion sports (football, baseball ect.) you should encorporate both. Increasing your max strength with powerlifting will help increase the weight you use for olympic lifts making you more powerful. I like to train alot of strength and then a couple weeks from the start of the season I start to encorporate more and more explosive/olympic movements to peak the power.

[QB_Killa]

I use both altough I suppose it's more leaning towards power.
Squats, Deadlifts, Power cleans and bench are my main lifts.

[H-Town-Matt]

Power, any lift can be 'explosive' if you lower the weight so it can be lifted faster.
oly lifts have quite a large learning curve which man be better used box squatin, deadin more 'explosively' etc.

just my 2p

[Fullback7]

Originally Posted by IGF-WON

but in some sports, you only have a certain amount of time to display the strength, so the speed portion becomes more important since its the limiting factor

Ya, but why can't you replicate the same amount of speed in the other lifts?

[brah_of_iron]

O Lifting for athletes for sure. Develops way more explosiveness, in my personal experience I've been moving a lot faster, more agile and EXPLOSIVE since switching to a mainly o lifting routine.
It's definitely more useful than grinding out some doubles on the deadlift. And yes you can do DE days, but that's higher reps, and you use more explosive power and a much larger range of motion during the o lifts.

DE on the deadlifts, lighter weight more reps, stop at the top of the lift -> clean and jerk, heavier than the weight you'd use for DE deadlifts, get to the top of the deadlift and then explode it up further, race the bar to a lower position to catch it, front squat, and then explode it up over your head using your legs and hips.

If you mastered the o lifts and handled a good amount of weight with them then you'd be beasting over the players sticking to heavy triples in the bench and deadlift, and would definitely still have a strong deadlift and squat

[IGF-WON]

Originally Posted by Fullback7

Ya, but why can't you replicate the same amount of speed in the other lifts?

well you can, just with sub-max weights, but a powerlifter probably wants to increase his 1RM more than the speed of 60% of his 1RM.

Power-lifts can accomplish the same thing

[jgood]

Originally Posted by IGF-WON

well you can, just with sub-max weights, but a powerlifter probably wants to increase his 1RM more than the speed of 60% of his 1RM.

Power-lifts can accomplish the same thing

O lifts are sub-max weights.... An o lift has to be executed fast/explosively or else its a failed attempt, strength lifts like bench/squat/deadlift are meant to be slow with maximal weights. Basically you should use both unless it doesn't matter if your weak but explosive or strong and not explosive.