all the hype about Breakfast???

[machx]

Originally Posted by imccarthy

Can we get this guy banned please? At least temp. banned... this kind of disrespect really isn't productive.

What is disrespectful about "LOL"??

we are having a friendly discussing here, fellow

[alan aragon]

Within the context of the OP's question (weight/fat loss, as opposed to gaining mass) skipping breakfast, or any meal for that matter, is a viable option for calorie reduction. There's nothing magical about breakfast stoking the metabolism, or whatever the myth may be. Conversely, there's no significant essential LBM lost by skipping breakfast, particularly if a late/large mixed meal was consumed for dinner. Skipping meals can present some potential problems if the goal is putting on mass, but not losing weight or fat.

[machx]

So skipping breakfast won't give me diabetes?

[alan aragon]

No, but I find that for me personally, having breakfast calms down my morning wood.

[Djin]

Originally Posted by alan aragon

No, but I find that for me personally, having breakfast calms down my morning wood.

Sweet! That's one for the books eh?

[machx]

Lol

[Lector606]

I almost never eat breakfast because I train first thing in the AM and eat about 80% of my daily calories within 3 hours of going to bed. Everyone has a different schedule and body but you need to figure out what works for you. As long a person is getting in adequate calories and nutrients no meal in particular is more necessary than the others IMO (except maybe pre-workout, because if you have a crappy pre-workout meal your workout might suck and diminish results).

[Adjusting]

Originally Posted by alan aragon

Within the context of the OP's question (weight/fat loss, as opposed to gaining mass) skipping breakfast, or any meal for that matter, is a viable option for calorie reduction. There's nothing magical about breakfast stoking the metabolism, or whatever the myth may be. Conversely, there's no significant essential LBM lost by skipping breakfast, particularly if a late/large mixed meal was consumed for dinner. Skipping meals can present some potential problems if the goal is putting on mass, but not losing weight or fat.

Great post.

[rainieravesouth]

Originally Posted by alan aragon

Within the context of the OP's question (weight/fat loss, as opposed to gaining mass) skipping breakfast, or any meal for that matter, is a viable option for calorie reduction. There's nothing magical about breakfast stoking the metabolism, or whatever the myth may be. Conversely, there's no significant essential LBM lost by skipping breakfast, particularly if a late/large mixed meal was consumed for dinner. Skipping meals can present some potential problems if the goal is putting on mass, but not losing weight or fat.

thank you! Amen!

[wave_length]

I never eat breakfast because I'm not hungry in the morning.
No use in forcing the body to do something he doesn't want.

[SpinFan]

Originally Posted by machx

I am so large and muscular and ripped at .5% body fat that my pic is so large it will not fit on this board.



at least my face isn't a white flash!

your photography is pro!

I'd prefer not to post pictures w/ my face here, the internet can be sketchy -- you're clearly proof of that.

[reefpicker]

Originally Posted by alan aragon

Within the context of the OP's question (weight/fat loss, as opposed to gaining mass) skipping breakfast, or any meal for that matter, is a viable option for calorie reduction. There's nothing magical about breakfast stoking the metabolism, or whatever the myth may be. Conversely, there's no significant essential LBM lost by skipping breakfast, particularly if a late/large mixed meal was consumed for dinner. Skipping meals can present some potential problems if the goal is putting on mass, but not losing weight or fat.

There was some research done a while back that showed a significant correlation between obesity and skipping breakfast. Of course, as I have pointed out before, this was an already obese group (and I think the converse was not true: eating breakfast did not correlate well with being skinny).

Also, the body itself is prep for breakfast. Cortisol follows a daily cycle and the "peak" for cortisol is around 7am. This may be in part to allow the replenishment of liver glycogen (from a morning meal).

I also find it interesting that many people that have weight problems (IDK why but this is specially true for women), will tell me "but IDK what's going on, I eat NOTHING in the morning, I only eat this much for lunch..." etc. So, IMO there is some truth to that research.

I know, I would not skip breakfast either.

[machx]

Originally Posted by SpinFan

I'd prefer not to post pictures w/ my face here, the internet can be sketchy -- you're clearly proof of that.

lolz i didn't want to see it anyways!! or the rest of the picture for that matter thank u tho sweetiee!!!!!

[alan aragon]

Originally Posted by reefpicker

There was some research done a while back that showed a significant correlation between obesity and skipping breakfast. Of course, as I have pointed out before, this was an already obese group (and I think the converse was not true: eating breakfast did not correlate well with being skinny).

This correlational research has far too many unaccounted variables to make it applicable to any population beyond perhaps the sedentary obese.

Also, the body itself is prep for breakfast. Cortisol follows a daily cycle and the "peak" for cortisol is around 7am. This may be in part to allow the replenishment of liver glycogen (from a morning meal).

Depends on the individual situation. As I mentioned, a large mixed evening meal can throw a big wrench into your assertion.

I also find it interesting that many people that have weight problems (IDK why but this is specially true for women), will tell me "but IDK what's going on, I eat NOTHING in the morning, I only eat this much for lunch..." etc. So, IMO there is some truth to that research.

Maybe so, for those who have a tendency to eat uncontrollably at night, to the point of maintaining an energy surplus. This doesn't mean that a sizable segment of the nonsedentary population with a vague inkling of dietary regulation can't easily manage a weight/fat loss program that doesn't contain a breakfast. And once again, I tend to not put a ton of stock into correlational research.

I know, I would not skip breakfast either.

I personally don't skip breakfast, but aside from the controlled interventions showing a lack of bodycomp difference between meal frequencies, I have plenty of 1st-hand observations of clients who have been successful at weight/fat loss & perfectly happy despite skipping breakfast. It should be noted, however, that the majority of these weight loss clients train in the evening, and have substantial dinners. Their appetite doesn't kick in until the early afternoon. It also should be noted that this is not a universal protocol I dish out; everything HAS to be designed according to individual preference & tolerance.

[BuffaJoe]

Originally Posted by Ted Nugent

everywhere from my nutrition class to overweight people who are on a new diet, people keep telling me "breakfast is the most important meal of the day" i used to believe this and would always eat breakfast no matter what. But when i started IF i dropped breakfast and usually the traditonal 12:00 lunch. I have noticed no decreased mental or physical performance and my body composition is greatly improving. and i know of many more people who dont eat brekfast and have had zero negative side affects. I have proposed the idea of cutting out breakfast to some people i know solely interested in loosing weight and they scoffed at me and told me i was mad. My question for answer of discussion is why does %95 of people firmly believe you NEED to eat breakfast to be able to function? Its well known that meal frequency has no effect on metabolism and that you dont need a huge breakfast for your brain to work, so whats with all the hype?

Every meal is as important as the next IMO

I tend to be extreamly dehydrated when I wake up, and usually pretty famished feeling.

I pound water first, then eat shortly after. Never miss a breakfast

[brookealoo82]

I personally have never been a big breakfast person but for the last 2 weeks I have consistently eaten it before starting my day and do notice that it makes a difference. I have more energy and my moods seem to be better. I get grouchy when I am hungry Bottom line is that different things work for different people.

[Matheoperez]

MOST IMPORTANT MEALS OF THE DAY- PRE AND POST WORKOUT!
Breakfast is pretty important too =D

[daYDreAmErX]

Originally Posted by SpinFan

I just pointed out the douchiness and irony in your condescending post. Not that I agree with the poster you called out, but I've seen enough of your posts here to know that you aren't some kind of authority on nutrition...or capable of third grade English.

I know this wasn't for me... but just don't assume that everybody speaks English. It's not my main language so don't be condescendant like that...

Thanks, I just wanna make sure you don't discredit someone because they make a few typo or grammar mistakes.

[KJR246]

Originally Posted by gixxer0.6g

Says the 150 lb crew

Originally Posted by gixxer0.6g

If you want to maintain a 150 lb physique

Originally Posted by DMANDAN

lol 5 11'' 155)

Originally Posted by machx

lolz @ 5'7", 171 lbs

What is with this ****? I'm 150 pounds. You know how fuking hard I worked my ass off to get here? It takes a lot to get from 130 to 150 with the same bodyfat as when I started. That's a solid 20 pounds.

Just because you gotz teh hyuuge musclez doesn't mean you're not a douche bag.

Bodyweight does not indicate intelligence.

[KJR246]

And saying rigit is fat is just proving that you've lost and are resorting to childish insults. Did you actually look at the dudes pic?

[SpinFan]

Originally Posted by machx

lolz i didn't want to see it anyways!! or the rest of the picture for that matter thank u tho sweetiee!!!!!

o rly? Is that why you took the time to click on my photos, click on one, and then post it here?

Seriously, why hasn't this kid been banned? Obv a troll

[wave_length]

I think it's a reasonable argument to disregard opinions of people who (currently) are light-weights when it comes to gaining muscle. I have no problem with it.

[SpinFan]

Originally Posted by daYDreAmErX

I know this wasn't for me... but just don't assume that everybody speaks English. It's not my main language so don't be condescendant like that...

Thanks, I just wanna make sure you don't discredit someone because they make a few typo or grammar mistakes.

English isn't my native language either. If your attitude was like Zakhan's I may have called you out, but your posts are actually productive, and you aren't a jerk to people

[gixxer0.6g]

So in conclusion....

If you want to get huge - eat your wheaties in the morning

If you want to look like Zac Efron - skip breakfast.

[zakhan]

Originally Posted by SpinFan

English isn't my native language either. If your attitude was like Zakhan's I may have called you out, but your posts are actually productive, and you aren't a jerk to people

Just to let you know missy, I wouldn't have been a jerk to this gixxer0.6g kid had he not chastised Rainieraversouth. Indeed, Rainieraversouth was absolutely correct in what he had to say and just read jixxer's post and his rude attitude toward Rainieraversouth and only then you would want to get at gixxer0.6g for believing in his "old myths." I'm not a jerk to folks unless they criticize someone else on this forum.

Here, direct your eyes on these quotes and then talk to me....

Originally Posted by gixxer0.6g

Couldn't disagree with you more. In fact, I disagree with about everything you post on this website including your stupid signature. Why don't you head over to the weight watchers website and spew your crappy advice over there. At least you'll all have the same common goal....to get as scrawny as possible.

Originally Posted by rainieravesouth

ok. thats fine. why do you disagree?

Originally Posted by gixxer0.6g

I disagree because it's bad advice. This is a bodybuilding site and in order to build your body it needs a constant supply of nutrients. If you want to maintain a 150 lb physique then go ahead and skip some meals but if you're constantly trying to get bigger (body building) then you better get your six meals in. Your body can only digest a certain amount of protein in each sitting. Eating one meal a day isn't going to maximize your protein synthesis.

Originally Posted by rainieravesouth

true it is a BB site, but I wasn't saying skip a meal! I just said if you meet your macros for the day, you don't need to worry about losing muscle overnight.

Personally, i think BB isn't just about getting bigger, it's about changing the way your body looks.

no one also said anything about just eating one meal. do you think it's going to make a big difference if you eat 5 vs. 6 meals? 6 meals isn't going to make or break you.

[rainieravesouth]

Originally Posted by gixxer0.6g

Couldn't disagree with you more. In fact, I disagree with about everything you post on this website including your stupid signature. Why don't you head over to the weight watchers website and spew your crappy advice over there. At least you'll all have the same common goal....to get as scrawny as possible.

strong edit brah. I was being polite but you wanna throw out insults because you obviously get mad at those who have different opinions than your own? And bringing up points that have nothing to do with what we're talking about?


you MUST mad zac effron gets more girls than you. lol.

you might want to read what Alan Aragon posted.

Originally Posted by alan aragon

Within the context of the OP's question (weight/fat loss, as opposed to gaining mass) skipping breakfast, or any meal for that matter, is a viable option for calorie reduction. There's nothing magical about breakfast stoking the metabolism, or whatever the myth may be. Conversely, there's no significant essential LBM lost by skipping breakfast, particularly if a late/large mixed meal was consumed for dinner. Skipping meals can present some potential problems if the goal is putting on mass, but not losing weight or fat.

[gixxer0.6g]

Originally Posted by rainieravesouth

strong edit brah. I was being polite but you wanna throw out insults because you obviously get mad at those who have different opinions than your own? And bringing up points that have nothing to do with what we're talking about?


you MUST mad zac effron gets more girls than you. lol.

you might want to read what Alan Aragon posted.

Buddy, I don't need anymore girls. I have one and she's all I need and the last thing she'd want is kid that weighs as much as most girls.

And we're arguing about two different things. One being weight loss and the other bodybuilding. Skip all the meals you want if you're trying to lose weight but if you're trying to get bigger (which is most on this site) than you shouldn't be skipping breakfast.

Thanks for the negs Zakhan.

[zakhan]

Originally Posted by gixxer0.6g

Buddy, I don't need anymore girls. I have one and she's all I need and the last thing she'd want is kid that weighs as much as most girls.

And we're arguing about two different things. One being weight loss and the other bodybuilding. Skip all the meals you want if you're trying to lose weight but if you're trying to get bigger (which is most on this site) than you shouldn't be skipping breakfast.

Thanks for the negs Zakhan.

You're very welcome! Now if you will just excuse us, we will leave you alone so you can perhaps enlighten yourself with current, proven bodybuilding "facts" as opposed to "myths" that you've known since you just so happen to be heavenly obsessed with building a tres muscular body with an extremely heavy weight. Good luck to ya.

[rainieravesouth]

Originally Posted by gixxer0.6g

Buddy, I don't need anymore girls. I have one and she's all I need and the last thing she'd want is kid that weighs as much as most girls.

And we're arguing about two different things. One being weight loss and the other bodybuilding. Skip all the meals you want if you're trying to lose weight but if you're trying to get bigger (which is most on this site) than you shouldn't be skipping breakfast.

Thanks for the negs Zakhan.

enough of all this BS that have nothing to do with the OP's question.

OP said FOR WEIGHT LOSS, you could skip breakfast.

If you want to get bigger, sure eat. but like i said before 5 meals vs. 6 meals wont make much of a difference.

[zakhan]

Originally Posted by rainieravesouth

enough of all this BS that have nothing to do with the OP's question.

OP said FOR WEIGHT LOSS, you could skip breakfast.

If you want to get bigger, sure eat. but like i said before 5 meals vs. 6 meals wont make much of a difference.

Exactly. Folks that frequent the nutrition forum *enough* know by now that meal frequency is completely irrelevant when it comes to body composition as long as one is meeting its daily macro intake and getting enough protein, EFAs, and fiber.