Reducing Calories Vs. Cardio

[hockmasm]

What is the difference between reducing calories by 300-500 per day
versus
Doing cardio that burns 300-500 calories per day?

[Holyspokes]

extra stress on your CNS system and improved cardiovascular fitness?

[JustLost]

Originally Posted by Holyspokes

extra stress on your CNS system and improved cardiovascular fitness?

I totally hate it when my Central Nervous System System gets stressed.

[AllGenetix]

low intensity cardio can be beneficial for the parasympathetic nervous system. but a diet or cardio enduced 300kcal deficit will yeild the exact same results.....300kcal weight loss

[Holyspokes]

Originally Posted by JustLost

I totally hate it when my Central Nervous System System gets stressed.

aw man you got meeee

[LamborghiniMoss]

I would go for the cardio.

Benefits = Improved cardio vascular system, and you are still getting all the same nutrients that you may not get from reducing cals.

- LamborghiniMoss -

[wave_length]

Originally Posted by Holyspokes

extra stress on your CNS system and improved cardiovascular fitness?

That. No difference for the purpose of bodybuilding = body composition improvement.

[sunngodd]

Someone please correct me if this is broscience:

I think that you metabolism will eventually adapt to you lowering calories, and you will have to lower them even further to keep losing weight, but cardio will help keep you metabolism up.

[mcmuffin]

i like personally for it to be 70% diet/cals and 30% cardio

So if i wanted to be 500cals below my maintenance i would low cals in my diets by 350 cals and burn 150 cals a day on cardio etc etc

[hockmasm]

i ask because in a muscle mag the guy told the person writing in to drop the cardio and just reduce calories.

because doing cardio will make your body use up the calories or something which is not as good as just reducing them.

cant remember the specifics.

[djdobber]

With straight calorie reduction, it can be very difficult to gauge and control what type of weight your losing. (fat, muscle....). Also, a calorie reduction does not always improve health or fitness. And, your body will adjust to those restrictions and try to maintain weight using the reduced caloric intake your providing.

with exercise: Playing with exercise timing, nutrion timing etc... you can burn mostly fat + improve your health + keep muscle (depending on diet and type of exercise). All the while burning an extra 400 cals a day.



Your best bet is to go to about 100-200 below maintenance, then use exercise to burn the rest. (not ive been saying exercise, not cardio. weightlifting burns more calories, and boosts your metabolism for much longer after your workout is over, and improves the overall look of your body)

[hockmasm]

Originally Posted by Holyspokes

extra stress on your CNS system and improved cardiovascular fitness?

what does this mean. can you explain in regards to my question?

[Holyspokes]

Originally Posted by hockmasm

what does this mean. can you explain in regards to my question?

That I don't think it will have a noticeable difference in body composition as it relates to fat loss goals. It may improve your cardiovascular fitness, and (although i'm not sure what allgenetix meant) it would increase your overall workload.

[wave_length]

Originally Posted by sunngodd

Someone please correct me if this is broscience:

I think that you metabolism will eventually adapt to you lowering calories, and you will have to lower them even further to keep losing weight, but cardio will help keep you metabolism up.

Not in my experience and I'm not aware of any scientific studies proving that point. The metabolism thingy is highly overrated as long as you follow a few simple rules.

[hockmasm]

i do weight lift. 3 days a week.

want to get rid of some fat, and not sure if i should just eat less carbs 200-300 cals worth a day, or do 40 mins of cardio after my workout 3 days a week.

[hockmasm]

Originally Posted by wave_length

Not in my experience and I'm not aware of any scientific studies proving that point. The metabolism thingy is highly overrated as long as you follow a few simple rules.

what have you done to shred down?

[hooked4life]

Originally Posted by sunngodd

Someone please correct me if this is broscience:

I think that you metabolism will eventually adapt to you lowering calories, and you will have to lower them even further to keep losing weight, but cardio will help keep you metabolism up.

a deficit is a deficit, you're body is going to react to eating too little, whatever the reason.

[Lector606]

If you are able to be strict enough with yourself IMO it is easier to be precise by manipulating diet. It's too difficult to accurately estimate calorie expenditure during exercise.

I prefer doing extra cardio because it lets me be more slack with my diet, but that's just personal preference.

[nilla10wafer]

It's true, a deficit is a deficit no matter how you look at it, however, I believe a combination of the two works best like the 70/30 as stated. I guess I figure why not do some cardio (HIIT) a couple times a week because we want to make sure we are working the heart since it's a muscle too. Plus, the endorphines and such are a great high Happy training ya'll!

[D-3]

When i cut, i eat at maitnence and do cardio to put me in a deficet, it works great.

[hooked4life]

Originally Posted by switchblade007

It's true, a deficit is a deficit no matter how you look at it, however, I believe a combination of the two works best like the 70/30 as stated. I guess I figure why not do some cardio (HIIT) a couple times a week because we want to make sure we are working the heart since it's a muscle too. Plus, the endorphines and such are a great high Happy training ya'll!

agree - dopamine is fun.

i'm not saying don't do LISS or HIIT, just that's it is not magic for losing fat.

[lth]

Doing LISS or HIIT revolves around your nutrition....if your cho intake is quite low, then sorry.....but HIIT will def. not be the best idea....if carbs are higher then HIIT would be a better option.

[wave_length]

Originally Posted by hockmasm

what have you done to shred down?

Here's my cutting diet:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpo...1&postcount=33

And those are the rules one must follow in general IMO:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpo...1&postcount=68

[Phosphate bond]

Originally Posted by hockmasm

What is the difference between reducing calories by 300-500 per day
versus
Doing cardio that burns 300-500 calories per day?

I think it depends on whether the person is in a trained or untrained state?

Apparently in a trained state the body is able to use up to 70% free fatty acids at rest while untrained people are only able to use 50%.

Originally Posted by Lector606

I prefer doing extra cardio because it lets me be more slack with my diet, but that's just personal preference.

Epinephrine released from that exercise is probably helping too. In fact, some articles on pubmed say this type of exercise reduces alpha 2 adrenergic receptors on adipocytes (thus making release of fat by cAMP/HSL mechanisms easier)

[chclark1]

As long as you are eating enough and spacing out your meals your body isn't going to shut down your metabolism. Why do programs like Weight Watchers help people loose massive amounts of weight, if that is even relevant. I doubt eating a couple hundred calories into deficit would have any ill effects on your metabolism.

[Own3r]

I have always used a combination of a caloric deficit along side 30 - 60 minutes of LISS cardio 6 times a week. All together it gives a pretty steady rate of fat loss.

[AniMaLizTik]

500 cal cardio would actually boost metabolism if done after a meal

decreasin intake and no cardio would slow metabolism...

[jked4life]

Originally Posted by Holyspokes

extra stress on your CNS system and improved cardiovascular fitness?

If you are talking about HIT Cardio, yes definately.

Originally Posted by AllGenetix

low intensity cardio can be beneficial for the parasympathetic nervous system. but a diet or cardio enduced 300kcal deficit will yeild the exact same results.....300kcal weight loss

To me there's nothing more therapeutic the day after leg day than a ginger uphill walk on the treadmill.




I don't use cardio to make up for poor eating habits though. There's no way to offset bad eating habits with some cardio. I admittedly have done extra cardio to give myself a little more "slack" in my diet though.

[AniMaLizTik]

Originally Posted by jked4life

If you are talking about HIT Cardio, yes definately.



To me there's nothing more therapeutic the day after leg day than a ginger uphill walk on the treadmill.




I don't use cardio to make up for poor eating habits though. There's no way to offset bad eating habits with some cardio. I admittedly have done extra cardio to give myself a little more "slack" in my diet though.

x2, i love putting it on full incline, pump up some good metal on the ipod and zone out for an hour

[Holyspokes]

Originally Posted by jked4life

If you are talking about HIT Cardio, yes definately.

You don't think your CNS can take a hit from LISS cardio?