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01-21-2009, 01:26 PM
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One muscle a day
Me and my workout buddy are thinkin about shiftin workouts from 2 major muscles a day down to 1 with a 4 to 5 day split. Any suggestions or comments?
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01-21-2009, 01:29 PM
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Why would you do that when you can hit each muscle twice or even three times per week?
= more stimulus for growth.
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5 weeks gaining 200g per week, 1 week losing 1kg. Rinse, repeat
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01-21-2009, 01:31 PM
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That's pure silliness.
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01-21-2009, 01:44 PM
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That's what we've been doin. but we had a personal trainer say he had good gains from doing that as well when we asked him. We have been workin muscles twice a week or more , just thinking about testing a different approach. A lot of people do that, test it out for a cycle.. It works, it works.. It doesn't, move on.
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01-21-2009, 01:52 PM
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Try it out. It's good to change your routine up fairly often so you don't plateau.
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01-21-2009, 02:05 PM
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brb... exercising my gastrocnemius... and nothing else...
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01-21-2009, 02:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bango skank
brb... exercising my gastrocnemius... and nothing else...
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lol
dont trust trainers. The trainers at my gym only have to sit in an 8hr class and then take a test. Anyone could do that.
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01-21-2009, 02:16 PM
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I know I said suggestions or comments, but ya don't have to fill up a bag with nails and beat me with it.
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I asked for suggestions and/or comments.
I didn't expect you to fill a bag with nails and beat me with it...
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01-21-2009, 02:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xm20recon
I know I said suggestions or comments, but ya don't have to fill up a bag with nails and beat me with it.
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ouch... sorry.
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01-21-2009, 02:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xm20recon
I know I said suggestions or comments, but ya don't have to fill up a bag with nails and beat me with it.
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5x5 and eat more. 5'11" 155 christ
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01-21-2009, 02:55 PM
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Cliffs:
1 bodypart a day is ridiculous. Your trainer is an idiot. Do a proven program.
Good Beginner Programs:
Starting Strength Novice Program - AKA "Rippetoe's". Countless trainees have gotten their start on this program (including myself) and made impressive size and strength gains. Associated with the program is a best-selling book, a huge support community and a massive amount of supplementary information. This is my favorite recommendation of the bunch.
Natural2's Advice for Beginners - Great advice for beginners, with beginner workout templates
A Simple Power Based Routine by Iron Addict - Here is a routine a LARGE percentage of the lifters here could make great gains doing. By Iron Addict, one of the top trainers on the net.
A Simple Beginners Routine by All Pro - A beginner program designed by All Pro, arguably one of the most knowledgable posters on the forum.
How to Construct Your Own Workout Routine by Steven Low - A simple guide to programming your own routine, lots of useful information, sample routines and links to other programs too.
Official 'Brawn' Basic layout/strategy/guide - Can't go wrong with this setup either. Stuart McRobert is a highly regarded trainer and author of one of the all-time best weight training series of books.
Practical Starting Routines for The Drug-Free Trainee - A good basic full body hypertrophy workout. Tons of great supplementary advice too.
The Real Arnold Schwarzenegger Beginner Programs - These are the same routines Arnold got started on. Nuff said!
MadCow's Starr/Pendlay 5x5 - Tried and true but geared toward intermediate weight lifters. Lots of great info and links here as well.
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01-21-2009, 02:56 PM
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Ouch, sorry im not 205. I have a high metabolism and eat more than you would figure partner. Some people have trouble gaining weight even eating 5 meals a day. Take it easy on me I've gained 25 lbs since I've been workin out
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01-21-2009, 02:59 PM
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Dear God... im not an amateur, this isn't something I've just started, once again just cause someone isn't 205 reping 250 doesn't mean they're beginners. Its harder for me to work my way up than people with a normal metabolism.
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01-21-2009, 03:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xm20recon
I know I said suggestions or comments, but ya don't have to fill up a bag with nails and beat me with it.
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That's signature material.
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Originally Posted by im_da_best_mane
5x5 and eat more. 5'11" 155 christ
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Strong first post.
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01-21-2009, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by bango skank
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This should get you on track.
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01-21-2009, 03:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xm20recon
Dear God... im not an amateur, this isn't something I've just started, once again just cause someone isn't 205 reping 250 doesn't mean they're beginners. Its harder for me to work my way up than people with a normal metabolism.
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If you haven't spent 6 months to a year (and probably longer) working on the big compound lifts; The Squat, The Standing Press, The Bench Press, The Deadlift, The Powerclean/The Row/The Pull-Up, then you are a beginner. It's not the scarlet letter, it's actually a good thing. Get on a proven beginner program and you won't regret it. I assume you came here for advice... this is advice from somebody who knows.
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01-21-2009, 03:26 PM
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Once again bango, you indirectly prove im not a beginner. I started working out feb 07, it was a little unorganized so I don't count it, but then I got a workout schedule and made sure I hit the gym every day around august. Overall I don't consider myself new to it. And I do all the workouts you're talking about lol
But I do appreciate the advice,im just past the beginner stuff
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01-21-2009, 03:31 PM
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Yes. My mistake.
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Last edited by bango skank; 01-21-2009 at 04:19 PM.
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01-21-2009, 05:30 PM
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Like Orlando said, you want to follow Bango's post with all the links in it. There's some great stuff in those programs and Bango knows what he's talking about. You said you're not a beginner as you made sure you hit the gym EVERY DAY in August, but that just shows you are a beginner - I guarantee you not one of those programs will have you going to the gym every day.
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01-21-2009, 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Sydney2009
Like Orlando said, you want to follow Bango's post with all the links in it.
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I wouldn't hold your breath.
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01-21-2009, 09:54 PM
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What is your current routine? (this should put everything to rest)
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01-21-2009, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by im_da_best_mane
5x5 and eat more. 5'11" 155 christ
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yup I think its about the only routine that works for one body part a day.... but its mostly for mass not strength.
I also saw some progress with a 3X8 routine... just make sure you are eating like a pig
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01-21-2009, 10:27 PM
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Just because you have been going to the gym more than a year DOESN'T automatically bring you to another level of training. Follow bango's advise. Seriously. I've been working out for almost a year, but spent most of my time just doing whatever I felt like. I made some gains but NOTHING compared if I used starting strength or something similar.
Now a year in I'm going to be doing Starting Strength. Because even though I've been in the gym the past year I didn't know **** all of what I was doing.
http://www.exrx.net/Testing/WeightLi...hStandards.htm
You came here for advise. Now follow it. You're not going to get anything better.
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01-21-2009, 11:51 PM
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Ridiculous?
For him and where he's at right now. Yes, a thousand times yes.
For everyone though?
That's where we differ.
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01-22-2009, 07:10 AM
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Ridiculous?
For him and where he's at right now. Yes, a thousand times yes.
For everyone though?
That's where we differ.
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I meant to say, "one muscle a day," is ridiculous and it came out wrong. One bodypart a day, although not great for a beginner, is at least widely accepted. Nobody should be doing one muscle a day though... that's just retarded.
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01-22-2009, 02:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xm20recon
Me and my workout buddy are thinkin about shiftin workouts from 2 major muscles a day down to 1 with a 4 to 5 day split. Any suggestions or comments?
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You should be thinking about going in the opposite direction - hard, full-body workouts. Your body is a unit, not a collection of disjointed parts.
Hit it hard with some big weights and go home and lick your wounds.
http://www.weightrainer.net/training/rules.html
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01-22-2009, 02:46 PM
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*sigh*
lol @ the body is a unit
means jack fcking **** for size gains
such retarded broscience
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What's really really really sad, is that the answers are already right there.
For a HUGE majority of people...
start on a full body 3x per week, add body part volume while reducing body part frequency as you progress. It's that friggin simple. It isn't "1 bodypart every 2 weeks for 70 sets" OR "Soviet/Bulgarian each bp 10x per week using 1 exercise each". There are middle grounds.
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01-22-2009, 02:51 PM
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*sigh*
lol @ the body is a unit
means jack fcking **** for size gains
such retarded broscience
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Your ignorant opinion is worthless.
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01-22-2009, 02:52 PM
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Quote:
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*sigh*
lol @ the body is a unit
means jack fcking **** for size gains
such retarded broscience
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no, actually the body is a unit. saying it isn't a unit is retarded broscience. if the body wasn't a unit, there wouldn't be a central nervous system. Each bodypart would have it's own nervous system.
Since there are already plenty of full body trainess that easily prove my point, you'll have to go find some puny high school kid and convince him to do nothing but biceps curls for the next three years. If after three years he has a huge biceps and the rest of his body stays exactly the same, then I'll believe you.
Till then...
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incorrect
you pimping your stupid ideas to promote yourself is worthless
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What's really really really sad, is that the answers are already right there.
For a HUGE majority of people...
start on a full body 3x per week, add body part volume while reducing body part frequency as you progress. It's that friggin simple. It isn't "1 bodypart every 2 weeks for 70 sets" OR "Soviet/Bulgarian each bp 10x per week using 1 exercise each". There are middle grounds.
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