females don't wanna be BULKY!

[Choco92]

Originally Posted by humblegenius

What annoys me more is people who do the 14 week course and call themselves a trainer.

In my profession its just as annoying as the upstarts straight out of uni who call themselves an accountant.

You arent **** till you know your trade, can apply it and provide the highest possible standard of service and advice to your clients.

I'm sure that most of the experienced lifters on these forums who are dedicated and absolutely know the majority of what they are doing, could easily be a trainer.
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[gymjunkie89]

Originally Posted by gym princess

Silly trainer lady..i leg press 16-18 fourty five pound plates and my legs are not "Bulkly" in the least.I think chicks should lift as much as they can.Lifting heavy will not make us grow a penis and become a man..ewww.Females dont want to become men!! Lifting heavy just makes you sexy!!!!!Lift as heavy as you want!!!!

I second that.
I hate how so many women think they are going to bulk up if they lift more than a few kilos - friends have asked me in the past how to lose body fat, and when I tell them they need to do a combination of cardio AND resistance training, they look at me as if I'm fricking stupid...

Sometimes I feel like I'm the only girl my age who takes the gym seriously and actually wants to gain some muscle - geez, is there anything wrong with that??

[Vadim Beliaev]

Originally Posted by BrandyTKO

If we're trying to loose BF, do you think cardio 3 x a week is enough? I do some about 6 days a week but for shorter durations than before as I was loosing muscle and not BF when I did more.

your diet is a lot more important than any amount of cardio that you do.

[TenaciousA]

Originally Posted by spartan09

At least that's what the trainer at Bally's seems to think.

She came up to me while I was doing the leg press and said I was lifting way too much weight and i would get "better" results with lower weight. Then when i was leaving she asked if I tried lower weight and higher reps and said "You don't wanna be bulky!"

Gaining some muscle mass is actually my main goal! Why do trainers assume that all women just wanna "tone?" Sorry, just had to rant!

I would have said....."Do you usually give out ****ty advice for free? Cause I'm not paying you."

Then again, I'm kind of a bitch when people interrupt me, ESPECIALLY doing legs.

[Rachella_24]

I know I don't want to get bulky, but I dont see anything wrong with other women wanting to bulk up. I dont think it looks bad at all on women.
I hate when people are like "you're a woman, you shouldnt have muscle or you shouldnt bulk".

Do what you desire with YOUR body. That's the whole point. It's YOUR body to make the choices about. It doesnt matter what anyone else thinks because they arent you. If they can not deal with it, then tell them the dont have to be around you.

Good luck with the bulking up hon

And on another note. Women dont really have a lot of testosterone to bulk up. Some may, but Im pretty sure that's on a rare occasion. Mostly we tone but I have seen some natural women bulk up without the roids. One girl actually goes to my gym and she is VERY impressive

[PumpedUp Paula]

Originally Posted by spartan09

At least that's what the trainer at Bally's seems to think.

She came up to me while I was doing the leg press and said I was lifting way too much weight and i would get "better" results with lower weight. Then when i was leaving she asked if I tried lower weight and higher reps and said "You don't wanna be bulky!"

Gaining some muscle mass is actually my main goal! Why do trainers assume that all women just wanna "tone?" Sorry, just had to rant!

Atleast she came up to you and gave you her opinion, even if it was not what you wanted. But I think that when someone is doing something wrong in the gym a trainer should go up to them and inform them. That is just my thought, but I can totally see where you are coming from

[CTB]

Does anyone else realllly hate the word "tone?"

[judokamatt]

Originally Posted by imperfectly_lou

It just makes you realise how poorly qualified and lacking in knowledge most trainers are....

lol im a guy and had a trainer tell me i should never lift more then 135 on any lift

i was like yea ok and now your gonna tell me that if i stick my thumb in my ass and spin around three times in the prescribed direction ill gain mass in my penis too?

needless to say i still lift heavy and push hard and grunt and groan and whine when i have disgusting muscle sorness because i have been lifting so heavy

but then again im one of maybe 6 people out of 500-600 people that use my gym daily that work legs so i guess those trainers are pretty clueless

and a women on a leg press with 2 5lb weights on it i mean common please

[judokamatt]

Originally Posted by Carmen666

Does anyone else realllly hate the word "tone?"

no toneing is good for after bulking since you are basically toneing while your cutting

toning = working the fat out of a muscle

but other then that outlook on toning yes GURLZ with muscle are so much better looking then cardio bunnys with pancake asses

squats and deadlift ass cheeks FTMFW

OH SNAP FEMALE BB SECTION <3<3<3

[CTB]

Originally Posted by judokamatt

no toneing is good for after bulking since you are basically toneing while your cutting

toning = working the fat out of a muscle

but other then that outlook on toning yes GURLZ with muscle are so much better looking then cardio bunnys with pancake asses

squats and deadlift ass cheeks FTMFW

OH SNAP FEMALE BB SECTION <3<3<3

Its more the way the word is used in the fitness industry that is frustrating - that women dont want to put on muscle, they want to 'tone' - well hello, in order to tone you have to gain muscle, then lose bodyfat...

[humblegenius]

Originally Posted by judokamatt

no toneing is good for after bulking since you are basically toneing while your cutting

toning = working the fat out of a muscle

but other then that outlook on toning yes GURLZ with muscle are so much better looking then cardio bunnys with pancake asses

squats and deadlift ass cheeks FTMFW

OH SNAP FEMALE BB SECTION <3<3<3

Toning was a word invented to further add to the ignorance that womens weight training should be different to that of mens.

The word toning should be cast to the waste paper basket of history along with the phrase "girls dont wanna lift weights or they'll get huge".

[judokamatt]

Originally Posted by Carmen666

Its more the way the word is used in the fitness industry that is frustrating - that women dont want to put on muscle, they want to 'tone' - well hello, in order to tone you have to gain muscle, then lose bodyfat...

very true and disappointing that our views are not held in common stead amongst those that call themselves professionals in the field is it not?

also the fruu fruu lifts as one lady that just moved to my little burg of a town i met at the gym called them IE 5 lbs DB curls or 5 lb DB BP this is doing nothing for your client except lightening their wallet whilst stuffing yours if you are the trainer

[spartan09]

Originally Posted by PumpedUp Paula

Atleast she came up to you and gave you her opinion, even if it was not what you wanted. But I think that when someone is doing something wrong in the gym a trainer should go up to them and inform them. That is just my thought, but I can totally see where you are coming from

It was my first day at that particular gym so i think she was just "checking" on me. She asked me if I was locking my knees while doing the leg press and i told her that i wasn't. I guess she felt like she had to give some type of advice lol

[Donica]

Originally Posted by spartan09

Yeah I thought a certified personal trainer would know that women can't get bulky without steroids lol... i figure we're supposed to use the same training principles as men...lift heavy or go home!

Bulk is relative. You can't get bulky like a MAN without steroids, but with persistence, time, patience, and an awful lot of heavy training and calories you can add some significant mass to your feminine frame--and still be feminine! Just wait until I hit a bodyweight of 135 pounds sometime in 2009, I'm gonna look awesome!!

[BrandyTKO]

Originally Posted by humblegenius

Toning was a word invented to further add to the ignorance that womens weight training should be different to that of mens.

The word toning should be cast to the waste paper basket of history along with the phrase "girls dont wanna lift weights or they'll get huge".

I think that "tone" is a word used to patronize the women who are sure they are going to end up looking like Arnold with a girl's face. So they don't get scared away and run back to the cardio machine and their 2 lb dumbells.

[DemetriaF]

Originally Posted by judokamatt

and a women on a leg press with 2 5lb weights on it i mean common please

I've actually seen this! Couldn't believe my freaking eyes!

Originally Posted by judokamatt

squats and deadlift ass cheeks FTMFW

Lol, nicely put!

[Molowe29]

^^^^^ Ditto

I've been teaching classes for 10+ years and train heavy and hard on my own. I'm strong for my size. I'm not huge.
I STILL get women who ask my advice and then argue with me "but weight training like that will make me huge"
Anymore my response is
"yeah
okay.
do your thing then but don't ask my why you can't get your butt any higher or tighter."

[sexyhustle]

Originally Posted by spartan09

At least that's what the trainer at Bally's seems to think.

She came up to me while I was doing the leg press and said I was lifting way too much weight and i would get "better" results with lower weight. Then when i was leaving she asked if I tried lower weight and higher reps and said "You don't wanna be bulky!"

Gaining some muscle mass is actually my main goal! Why do trainers assume that all women just wanna "tone?" Sorry, just had to rant!

did you tell the trainer that you wanted to gain mucsle, that you wanted to be bulky? not all assume that, some assume it cuz it is what they want. i am a girl and i want to get bulky and large muscles. i dont want to be a stick, i think large muclses is more attractive.

[user2255661]

Originally Posted by GoutDeMiel

It pissed me off beyond belief. That woman was paying 60$ an hour for that consultation and was getting crap advice.

It took a lot for me to not say anything. I'm starting to think that its a big conspiracy.

Ever consider that people aren't necessarily paying $60/hr for "advice"? Maybe they don't want the truth. Maybe they just want to feel better about themselves and these so-called "personal trainers" are providing precisely that service.

[LoraJR72]

Originally Posted by ainedb

I'm always amazed by this. The personal trainers at my gym are either
1)Stick-skinny
2)Fat
3)Telling all their women to train with 3-pound dumbbells, high reps, and hours of cardio

I don't know why anyone would pay for someone who is fat or has no muscle (man OR woman) to be their personal trainer. Isn't that an indication that they don't really know what they are doing?

We must go to the same gym! I had an old-school trainer at another gym who wondered out loud how the other trainers got jobs.

[ssj4veggeto1008]

Originally Posted by spartan09

At least that's what the trainer at Bally's seems to think.

She came up to me while I was doing the leg press and said I was lifting way too much weight and i would get "better" results with lower weight. Then when i was leaving she asked if I tried lower weight and higher reps and said "You don't wanna be bulky!"

Gaining some muscle mass is actually my main goal! Why do trainers assume that all women just wanna "tone?" Sorry, just had to rant!

lol all people have different goals. the thing with balleys trainers is that they think all women want to look like a fitness model. When some want to look like a tack runner.