girlfriend wants to do x

[C-Squared]

Did NOT read all this, but I have asked around about this drug BIG TIME because I want to try it... everyone I've talked to said it ruined sex for them because it was never as good off of it than it was when they were on it. I dunno who would want to take something as good as sex and ruin it for themselves, some things you just don't need to mess with!

[SaviorSix]

Originally Posted by pureshok

if you're going to attempt to discredit YEARS of peer reveiwed research that includes 1000's of subjects.

wat?

[somanybuttons]

Originally Posted by SaviorSix

wat?

x2

it's ok, I've decided that pureshok keeps his mind as closed as it is because he's worried if he opens it up at all, his brains will fall out common problem really.

i keeeed, i keeed.

seriously though, this argument's ridiculous - here we have a guy with no expereince with drugs or the people who do them giving advice and ridiculing those who do, deciding to redefine the definition of 'addict' and behaving in a fairly obnoxious and disrespectful manner about the whole issue.

Not to mention quoting a certain girl and pulling it slightly out of context in the hope to... what exactly?

also, I'm now concerned. My dad drinks between two glasses and half a bottle of wine a night, plus a few beers on the weekend. Should I be suggesting to him that he take himself off to AA meetings? I mean, his high powered job and family life may suffer as a result of his addiction, right?

[Jaw-Knee]

Originally Posted by somanybuttons

Not to mention quoting a certain girl and pulling it slightly out of context in the hope to... what exactly?

The first time I saw the sig I was kinda like, "...And?"

[CEO Josh]

Originally Posted by somanybuttons

x2

it's ok, I've decided that pureshok keeps his mind as closed as it is because he's worried if he opens it up at all, his brains will fall out common problem really.

i keeeed, i keeed.

seriously though, this argument's ridiculous - here we have a guy with no expereince with drugs or the people who do them giving advice and ridiculing those who do, deciding to redefine the definition of 'addict' and behaving in a fairly obnoxious and disrespectful manner about the whole issue.

Not to mention quoting a certain girl and pulling it slightly out of context in the hope to... what exactly?

also, I'm now concerned. My dad drinks between two glasses and half a bottle of wine a night, plus a few beers on the weekend. Should I be suggesting to him that he take himself off to AA meetings? I mean, his high powered job and family life may suffer as a result of his addiction, right?

Wat? Since when do you need to experience something personally to learn from it? Thats ridiculous.

I've never been hit by a bus, but from what I've read I think I've gathered all there is to know.

However I do have tons of experience with drug users my age, most of which I know are losers who aren't going anywhere doing blue collar work if they even have a job. Save a few students who smoke weed over break and seem to be ok. Most of those guys/girls are just casual users too, who don't give a fuk and it shows in every part of their life.

No one took your quotes out of context, you simply aren't logicaly and don't make a lot of sense which is why the only way you can try to explain what you've said is saying its been taken out of context.

Just how many ways is one suppose to take " Wut, i dont do a lot of drugs, just <insert list here> thats all" Tg you only tried half of the popular ones?

Thats like someone saying nope I'm not crazy at all, I've just been locked up twice, its not like i've been locked up 5 times....

As for your dad, well damn having a daughter as awesome as you im surprised the man doesn't need to drink more. I consider the guy sober.

Originally Posted by Jaw-Knee

The first time I saw the sig I was kinda like, "...And?"

and strong logic critical thinking?

[Jaw-Knee]

Originally Posted by pureshok

As for your dad, well damn having a daughter as awesome as you im surprised the man doesn't need to drink more. I consider the guy sober.

and strong logic critical thinking?

Nah. The "numerous other drugs" she was referring to were the "numerous other drugs" you appeared to be claiming she does. However, the fact that somebody's done drugs before doesn't mean they continue to do those same drugs in the present. I've smoked meth on several occasions and abused painkillers in the past, but that doesn't mean that I do them now. The quote in your sig is kind of just a quote.

[somanybuttons]

Originally Posted by pureshok

No one took your quotes out of context, you simply aren't logicaly and don't make a lot of sense which is why the only way you can try to explain what you've said is saying its been taken out of context.

Just how many ways is one suppose to take " Wut, i dont do a lot of drugs, just <insert list here> thats all" Tg you only tried half of the popular ones?

Thats like someone saying nope I'm not crazy at all, I've just been locked up twice, its not like i've been locked up 5 times....

As for your dad, well damn having a daughter as awesome as you im surprised the man doesn't need to drink more. I consider the guy sober.

Wow.

That's low, pathetic and completely unfair- taking a jab at me and telling me I'm the reason my dad drinks. You have NO idea what kind of daughter I am, no idea about my relationship with my family and clearly no understanding of the concept of 'crossing the line'. You took my humourous comment about the ridiculousness of the definition of addiction that you seem to subscribe to and turned it on me in a way that is completely uncalled for.

So since you think you know so much about me, my family and what I do with my life, I'd be delighted to hear what you had to say, because right now, I think you'd be way off.

My point in the part of what I said that you quoted was:

You said I was doing lots of drugs all the time. I clarified, saying no, I have tried a few, may have something about once a month but not much more, and also decided I needed to clarify your comment about me drinking all the time.

[CEO Josh]

Originally Posted by Jaw-Knee

Nah. The "numerous other drugs" she was referring to were the "numerous other drugs" you appeared to be claiming she does. However, the fact that somebody's done drugs before doesn't mean they continue to do those same drugs in the present. I've smoked meth on several occasions and abused painkillers in the past, but that doesn't mean that I do them now. The quote in your sig is kind of just a quote.

Never was I claiming she did them right now. Only thing she does now is X and weed. I simply claimed she had done numerous drugs because she then stated that she had never done so, which made no sense since she JUST ADMITTED IT.

Yea lots of people quit use and are no longer considered users, however shes only quit some substances thus is still tech a user of course thats never even been the issue.

Its just frustrating arguing with someone who constantly backtracts everything they say when its no longer convienant for them.

Usually I just avoid aruging with females in general because this type of arguing almost always happens and leads no where, but dear god she does it in almost every possible disagreement I've ever had with her on the misc.

Anyway the point of my posts besides to help the op, were simply to add the other side to the coin of "oh hai I snorted as much coke as my nostrils could take and im ok" to "yea thats true but MOST people arent"

Note that above quote is directly from one of the GUYS in this thread. That advice is akin to the "smart" 16 year old roid users in the teen section telling other teens gear use is just fine at that age.

Originally Posted by somanybuttons

Wow.

That's low, pathetic and completely unfair- taking a jab at me and telling me I'm the reason my dad drinks. You have NO idea what kind of daughter I am, no idea about my relationship with my family and clearly no understanding of the concept of 'crossing the line'. You took my humourous comment about the ridiculousness of the definition of addiction that you seem to subscribe to and turned it on me in a way that is completely uncalled for.

So since you think you know so much about me, my family and what I do with my life, I'd be delighted to hear what you had to say, because right now, I think you'd be way off.

My point in the part of what I said that you quoted was:

You said I was doing lots of drugs all the time. I clarified, saying no, I have tried a few, may have something about once a month but not much more, and also decided I needed to clarify your comment about me drinking all the time.

"it's ok, I've decided that pureshok keeps his mind as closed as it is because he's worried if he opens it up at all, his brains will fall out common problem really."

Don't throw stones if you live in a glass house then? Oh wait I know I forgot the "i keeeed, i keeed"

[somanybuttons]

Originally Posted by pureshok

Yea lots of people quit use and are no longer considered users, however shes only quit some substances thus is still tech a user of course thats never even been the issue.

Wait, what?

I tried coke once. Once. Not even a couple of times, one, single, little time.

Speed was a couple of times, but again, it's hard to 'quit' something when it's not a habit - that's like saying "Jimmy tried smoking once when he was twelve but he quit after that day"...

Sorry if my humour is not to your taste. That's the big difference between my comment and yours - I was making a joke, you were saying it out of spite.

[CEO Josh]

Originally Posted by somanybuttons

Wait, what?

I tried coke once. Once. Not even a couple of times, one, single, little time.

Speed was a couple of times, but again, it's hard to 'quit' something when it's not a habit - that's like saying "Jimmy tried smoking once when he was twelve but he quit after that day"...

Sorry if my humour is not to your taste. That's the big difference between my comment and yours - I was making a joke, you were saying it out of spite.

Actually I was just directly insulting you. I KEED I KEED. Seriously though lol, at thinking I'm nice enough to hold back.

[Jaw-Knee]

Originally Posted by pureshok

Never was I claiming she did them right now. Only thing she does now is X and weed. I simply claimed she had done numerous drugs because she then stated that she had never done so, which made no sense since she JUST ADMITTED IT.

Yea lots of people quit use and are no longer considered users, however shes only quit some substances thus is still tech a user of course thats never even been the issue.

Its just frustrating arguing with someone who constantly backtracts everything they say when its no longer convienant for them.

I dunno, dude. It seems like there's more misunderstanding on both ends than backtracking on her end.

Usually I just avoid aruging with females in general because this type of arguing almost always happens and leads no where, but dear god she does it in almost every possible disagreement I've ever had with her on the misc.

Anyway the point of my posts besides to help the op, were simply to add the other side to the coin of "oh hai I snorted as much coke as my nostrils could take and im ok" to "yea thats true but MOST people arent"

Note that above quote is directly from one of the GUYS in this thread. That advice is akin to the "smart" 16 year old roid users in the teen section telling other teens gear use is just fine at that age.

I don't think the point was to say that drugs are safe. I think the point was that you can do drugs without permanently messing yourself up but that such a fact doesn't make it a good idea. It seems as though it was more a response to "this **** will put holes in your brain" than anything else.

[CEO Josh]

Originally Posted by Jaw-Knee

I dunno, dude. It seems like there's more misunderstanding on both ends than backtracking on her end.



I don't think the point was to say that drugs are safe. I think the point was that you can do drugs without permanently messing yourself up but that such a fact doesn't make it a good idea. It seems as though it was more a response to "this **** will put holes in your brain" than anything else.

Lol at holes in your brain, yea that I can def agree with. From what I gathered I was hearing things rangeing from "I didnt get messed up neither will you, its all bs" to "you SHOULD try it out its fun".

My point like you figured out was yea it wont always mess you up(and i hope it doesnt) but it CAN and there is large enough chance it can that you should take it seriously.

If it was some 20+ year old I wouldnt of even bothered aruging at that age I figure they prob thought it through and thats the end of it, but being 17, Id rather make sure they realized they aren't immortal and will eventally live past tommrow.

[somanybuttons]

you still haven't answered my question - what kind of background am I from? what else do I do with my time? what are my plans for the future? what's my relationship with my family?

please tell me, because you seem to think you have me sussed out..

[CEO Josh]

Originally Posted by somanybuttons

you still haven't answered my question - what kind of background am I from? what else do I do with my time? what are my plans for the future? what's my relationship with my family?

please tell me, because you seem to think you have me sussed out..

How the fuk would I know, I only know about what you've told since you've been here which seems like the classic story of a girl who daddy didn't love, or loved a little too much.

Though you seem to think you have me pegged pretty well so it seems

[Jaw-Knee]

Originally Posted by pureshok

Lol at holes in your brain, yea that I can def agree with. From what I gathered I was hearing things rangeing from "I didnt get messed up neither will you, its all bs" to "you SHOULD try it out its fun".

My point like you figured out was yea it wont always mess you up(and i hope it doesnt) but it CAN and there is large enough chance it can that you should take it seriously.

If it was some 20+ year old I wouldnt of even bothered aruging at that age I figure they prob thought it through and thats the end of it, but being 17, Id rather make sure they realized they aren't immortal and will eventally live past tommrow.

Yeah, I see what you're saying. I don't think anybody should be all "try this ****" without letting the person he or she is talking to in on potential risks. Sure, nobody likes a killjoy, but nobody likes having to be put six feet under when they were just trying to party, either.

[somanybuttons]

Originally Posted by pureshok

How the fuk would I know, I only know about what you've told since you've been here which seems like the classic story of a girl who daddy didn't love, or loved a little too much.

Though you seem to think you have me pegged pretty well so it seems

Really? I wonder what I said that you misconstrued like that.

I'm not stripping because I was abused -sexually or otherwise - as a kid.
I'm not stripping because I was neglected as a kid.
I had an awesome childhood and my relationship with my parents stayed strong once I got out of those tempestuous teenage years.
My parents are still together - 25 years next year - and what with my, my brother and them, it's a small but strong family.

So to be honest, I think your assumptions about me are wrong, not just in this case but many of the others I know you will have formed about me.

I wouldn't be defending it except that you insist on constantly talking down to me, which I find insulting and a bit ridiculous, since I'm clearly not naive, stupid or childish, so I shall continue to argue my points with you and pick them to pieces as long as you insist on talking to me as if I'm a lesser member of society.

[JZT]

Girlfriend wants to do her ex?
Girlfriend wants to do XXX?

wut?

[CEO Josh]

Originally Posted by Jaw-Knee

Yeah, I see what you're saying. I don't think anybody should be all "try this ****" without letting the person he or she is talking to in on potential risks. Sure, nobody likes a killjoy, but nobody likes having to be put six feet under when they were just trying to party, either.

Yea I guess growing up in bogus area of chicago showed me the downside to the "whatever" personality. If the world was roses and butterflies id be all for it, but I know from experience a lot of bogus **** does happen to good people.

I've had best friends turn into crack heads and end up homeless robbing people, girls i know getting raped cuz they just took some pills to have fun at a party and their girls left them alone with all the guys, and just some normal peeps who just use it to escape and never end up doing much else 4 years later after graduation. If my lil bro ever attempted to try some something like that I'd kick the **** out him.

Originally Posted by somanybuttons

Really? I wonder what I said that you misconstrued like that.

I'm not stripping because I was abused -sexually or otherwise - as a kid.
I'm not stripping because I was neglected as a kid.
I had an awesome childhood and my relationship with my parents stayed strong once I got out of those tempestuous teenage years.
My parents are still together - 25 years next year - and what with my, my brother and them, it's a small but strong family.

So to be honest, I think your assumptions about me are wrong, not just in this case but many of the others I know you will have formed about me.

I wouldn't be defending it except that you insist on constantly talking down to me, which I find insulting and a bit ridiculous, since I'm clearly not naive, stupid or childish, so I shall continue to argue my points with you and pick them to pieces as long as you insist on talking to me as if I'm a lesser member of society.

To be honest you're really not worth responding to at all, yet it is my fault for doing so, so many times. My apologies.

[somanybuttons]

Originally Posted by pureshok

To be honest you're really not worth responding to at all, yet it is my fault for doing so, so many times. My apologies.

And in one fell swoop you demonstrate exactly the attitude I was talking about.

I don't know quite why you have such a problem with me, but seriously, there's no need to be like that - I'm no less of a person than you, no less educated or less well brought up and no less of a member of society, yet for some reason you have decided that it's ok to talk to me as if that is the case.

[Jaw-Knee]

Originally Posted by pureshok

Yea I guess growing up in bogus area of chicago showed me the downside to the "whatever" personality. If the world was roses and butterflies id be all for it, but I know from experience a lot of bogus **** does happen to good people.

I've had best friends turn into crack heads and end up homeless robbing people, girls i know getting raped cuz they just took some pills to have fun at a party and their girls left them alone with all the guys, and just some normal peeps who just use it to escape and never end up doing much else 4 years later after graduation. If my lil bro ever attempted to try some something like that I'd kick the **** out him.

Yeah, that'd definitely make it tough. But at the same time, it's not for everybody. Lol, not saying that crack, meth and date rape drugs are for anybody, but stuff like X isn't crack, meth or date rape drugs. People have a good time on it, and if somebody's considering taking it for a good time then they need to know about the positives too, you know? That way they can decide for themselves whether or not it's something they wanna do. Personally, I avoid the stuff, but that's just me.

[Popcorn_fart]

Originally Posted by somanybuttons

Wait, what?

I tried coke once. Once. Not even a couple of times, one, single, little time.

Yah me too TBH i didnt even like it i never tried x dont mind smoking a joint every now an then.

EDIT: Nice ass doggystyle ftw

[somanybuttons]

Originally Posted by Popcorn_fart

Yah me too TBH i didnt even like it i never tried x dont mind smoking a joint every now an then.

EDIT: Nice ass doggystyle ftw

well I hate to break it to ya but apparently that makes you a druggie doncha know?...



lol, cheers

[Jaw-Knee]

Originally Posted by somanybuttons

I don't know quite why you have such a problem with me, but seriously, there's no need to be like that - I'm no less of a person than you, no less educated or less well brought up and no less of a member of society, yet for some reason you have decided that it's ok to talk to me as if that is the case.

Remember all those arguments we used to get into about how you bring upon yourself the negative opinions of others? Same thing applies here.

Lol, you'd better not have forgotten. I tried hard enough to beat it into your head.

[Violator009]

strong crackheads in this dere thrad

[TwistedFate]

Originally Posted by Jaw-Knee

Yeah, that'd definitely make it tough. But at the same time, it's not for everybody. Lol, not saying that crack, meth and date rape drugs are for anybody, but stuff like X isn't crack, meth or date rape drugs. People have a good time on it, and if somebody's considering taking it for a good time then they need to know about the positives too, you know? That way they can decide for themselves whether or not it's something they wanna do. Personally, I avoid the stuff, but that's just me.

Ok ecstasy is suppose to be mdma but most of the time it is cut with more harmful drugs such as meth,amph. So for you to say ecstasy is not like crack or meth well that is simply not true. Unless you have a testing kit, then you have no idea what is in your pill. You should research www.ecstasydata.org and take a look through the lab results of pills tested. For the op, you can't control your gf but you can inform her. Do some research on science articles posted first on mdma and rats to show how it damages serotonin receptors in the brain then show her that web page of what all ecstasy pills are cut with. I have done ecstasy personally myself off and on for 8 years but have decided to quit for good due to the damage it has done. The fact is, the drug is a lot of fun but in the end it will take its toll on your brain,body,friends,family, gf/bf and thats a fact. People always like to compare drugs to say to which is worse then another to justify there own use. Everyone I know that does drugs, has a way to justify there drug use. Example" I may do ecstasy but I would never do meth" well too bad most of pills now a days has a large dose of meth in them. Or " I smoke weed but would never do hard drugs its natural" Well how many people that smoke weed eventually do harder drugs? How about every single one of my friends, so does that make weed harmless? To the people that posted about how you don't have to have done drugs to know the experiences people deal with that do drugs, well yes you do. You can read all the propaganda about drugs but until you do them then you have no idea what you go through just how the drug physically affects your body. If your gf decides to do ecstasy op after doing all the research then let her, she is not a dog you can control. You make the choice if you want to be with her or not if she wants to do the drug.