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Old 12-19-2008, 06:40 PM   #91
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I'm not up on all the law suit stuff on here, but it's not my business....I'm here to stay healthy and produce good results.
I'm curious why you really are here. You only show up in MT threads, supporting MT. Affiliation besides/before winning maybe?

You can count me out this year, as I am not willing to use steroids.
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another question im gonna join but in the b4 pics can you leave your body hair and then shave it for the after pics and what about tan does that matter?
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another question im gonna join but in the b4 pics can you leave your body hair and then shave it for the after pics and what about tan does that matter?
Yes you need a bodyspace, it says so in the rules.

It says that you should have a similar appearance in terms of grooming for before and after, so I'm not going to be giving them any reason to disqualify me
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I'm curious why you really are here. You only show up in MT threads, supporting MT. Affiliation besides/before winning maybe?

You can count me out this year, as I am not willing to use steroids.
Count you out? Damn! Everybody was hoping that with your incredibly wise commentary and virtually limitless insight on everything, that you would at least place in the top 20!

Count you out??? You mean your not going to devote another whopping 3 weeks of hard work and then criticize everyone else for the rest of the 9 weeks like last time??????? Damn!

I'm here to support the contest....and I will support MT.....I'm here to help other people attain something that people like you keep telling them they can't!

Liquid Diet .....everyone will be lost without your accusations and back handed slaps! What will we do?????
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Count you out? Damn! Everybody was hoping that with your incredibly wise commentary and virtually limitless insight on everything, that you would at least place in the top 20!

Count you out??? You mean your not going to devote another whopping 3 weeks of hard work and then criticize everyone else for the rest of the 9 weeks like last time??????? Damn!

I'm here to support the contest....and I will support MT.....I'm here to help other people attain something that people like you keep telling them they can't!

Liquid Diet .....everyone will be lost without your accusations and back handed slaps! What will we do?????
I'm staying outta this mess, but I just have to say rescuemadden, that you are freakin hilarious smarta$$! I'm FROLMAO!!! That said, can you answer my question about what products are actually needed for this contest?
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Count you out? Damn! Everybody was hoping that with your incredibly wise commentary and virtually limitless insight on everything, that you would at least place in the top 20!

Count you out??? You mean your not going to devote another whopping 3 weeks of hard work and then criticize everyone else for the rest of the 9 weeks like last time??????? Damn!

I'm here to support the contest....and I will support MT.....I'm here to help other people attain something that people like you keep telling them they can't!

Liquid Diet .....everyone will be lost without your accusations and back handed slaps! What will we do?????
After this post, I will not be back in this thread again. There will be nothing backhanded about what I say.

You cheated. You used testosterone enhancing and cutting agents that would not be allowed near any natural bodybuilding competition. As a personal trainer and natural athlete, I know there is only so much the body can transform in a short amount of time without cheating. And at your age, natural testosterone is greatly reduced, making it much harder to lose bodyfat/gain muscle. There were many people that knew it then, and know it now. No matter how hard you say you busted your balls, it's just not scientifically possible.

I am not here to discourage anyone from making healthy changes in their lifestyle to improve their phyiques. You give them false hope of realistic goals. I help people through pm's almost every time I log onto this site for free, you show up once a year for money incentive. I am almost 100% sure now that you have an affiliation with MT that extends beyond this contest-even before last year. You need to be honest with yourself and everyone here.

I maybe had bad things to say about 3 people last time, all the ones that had a little extra help.

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ALLRIGHT!!! I was wondering if there was going to be another MuscleTech contest this year. I was entered last year but had do drop out. Im so glad to see all the friendlyness is back this year. Either way, I'm In. Hey Diet, Ill get my pal Curt to enter too, your not in???? Oh well.

When do pics have to be put up???
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so people that are being sued can enter?
LMAO!

Oh, man. In for the ugliness.

Note to BodySpace, Bodybuilding.com, and MuscleTech: Recommend a sense of humor be applied as there is an obvious and perhaps deserved anti-MT sentiment in the air (ya think???).

Someone might want to address the lawsuit issue head-on or this thread and the contest are both doooomed.
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I understand, its just kinda really bad timing on MT's part
The bad timing being that the lawsuits took place close to the time of their second transformation contest?

Yeah, I'd say that's poor timing.

Imagine that they're suing VERY VOCAL participants who had bad things to say about their products and company. Now imagine anyone believing that those very same VERY VOCAL participants wouldn't respond in a VERY @#$% VOCAL manner.

Someone didn't think things through.

Or maybe all the naysayers are screaming into a hurricane. No negative impact for MT at all. Stay tuned.

Fwiw, 1) I believe rescuemadden used only hard work, dedication, real food, and MT supps to create his dramatic - even amazing - transformation.

2) BodySpace is a great site.

3) I've used MT supps in the past, my favorite being their Nitro-Tech protein bars.

4) MuscleTech would be wise to address the lawsuits publically, however legal junk being what it is that ain't gonna happen.

5) The MT reps weren't always active enough or quick enough in responding to the many questions and comments posted during the last contest in the MT Transformation thread, imo. Possibly understandable, especially if the reps were unpaid advocates/spokespeople.

Best wishes to those... being sued. Best of luck to all who choose to enter.
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And love MuscleTech or hate 'em, the video here (scroll down) is funny as hell.

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After this post, I will not be back in this thread again. There will be nothing backhanded about what I say.

You cheated. -=snip=-
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Not me, though. Because, hey, I'm a "look on the bright side" and "never name call" good guy.
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ALLRIGHT!!! I was wondering if there was going to be another MuscleTech contest this year. I was entered last year but had do drop out. Im so glad to see all the friendlyness is back this year. Either way, I'm In. Hey Diet, Ill get my pal Curt to enter too, your not in???? Oh well.

When do pics have to be put up???
I just posted the link to the video and at least partial rules are posted there:

"The contest entry period starts on January 1, 2009!

Entry form will be available then.
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" The Before and After Pictures must comply with each of the following requirements:

(a) all Pictures must be taken with the same lighting and background; (b) Pictures must be taken in multiple poses, including front relaxed, back relaxed, abs and thigh, most muscular, and side chest; (c) all Pictures must be taken with you wearing the same color and style of clothing; (d) you must have substantially the same hair-style and (if applicable) makeup in each Picture; (e) one (1) of the Before Pictures and one (1) of the After Pictures must show you holding a national newspaper with the date clearly visible; (f) additionally, one (1) of the Before Pictures and one (1) of the After Pictures must be a close-up photograph of the national newspaper with the date clearly visible and (g) only you and no one else may appear in the Picture. Additional technical requirements for the Pictures are set forth on the entry page.

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So anything off that page, does other hydroxycut items count? Is there someone we can contact with questions or do we have to stick to the forums, which can be a hassle most of the time?
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So anything off that page, does other hydroxycut items count? Is there someone we can contact with questions or do we have to stick to the forums, which can be a hassle most of the time?
I purchased regular Hydroxycut last year.

That and the Nitro-Tech protein bars were used during my cut.
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I purchased regular Hydroxycut last year.

That and the Nitro-Tech protein bars were used during my cut.
How much would you guess you spent last year for the comp? I buy a lot of my stuff from here but also other online places and gnc. How long did it usually take you to get your orders?
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Much less than a hundred bucks.

The regular Hydroxycut was something like sixteen bucks. I only needed to purchase one bottle to qualify for entry.

Purchased a second bottle and then also the Nitro-Tech bars. Those were about $25 for 12 bars.

That would total up to $57.00. Shipping might have added another ten bucks total.

And how long? BB.com ships seemingly before I order! lol I've placed multiple BB.com orders. The product is on my doorstep in three days tops.
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LMAO!

Oh, man. In for the ugliness.

Note to BodySpace, Bodybuilding.com, and MuscleTech: Recommend a sense of humor be applied as there is an obvious and perhaps deserved anti-MT sentiment in the air (ya think???).

Someone might want to address the lawsuit issue head-on or this thread and the contest are both doooomed.
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I would'nt say too much until its over. And we know they are'nt going to say anything either for sure... Im still entering, hope your not pissed at us that choose to enter.....
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Well, I got negged for saying I was going to enter this contest.... So it would seem that some are going to question peoples ethics for entering... I don't know the whole story or what the hell is going on around here, but I don't feel I should be slammed for entering. Im not the cause of anyone's situation, just my own.....
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This contest should be limited to members who have actually been on this site. This would at least ensure some sort of legitimacy in the contest.

For those who entered the contest before and didn't plan on using PH's/DS's or AAS you were greatly shorthanded from the get go.

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Well, I got negged for saying I was going to enter this contest.... So it would seem that some are going to question peoples ethics for entering... I don't know the whole story or what the hell is going on around here, but I don't feel I should be slammed for entering. Im not the cause of anyone's situation, just my own.....
Gtfo. Someone actually negged you over this? Just stating you were looking forward to entering a contest? Holy crap.

Nice.

MuscleTech definitely looks bad for the lawsuits, but negging people for no reason has a certain sense of the absurd as well.

Repped on recharge, bro.

Uh, unless I'm negged to zero before that. lol
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This contest should be limited to members who have actually been on this site. This would at least ensure some sort of legitimacy in the contest.

For those who entered the contest before and didn't plan on using PH's/DS's or AAS you were greatly shorthanded from the get go.

Good luck everyone on this one.
That makes sense unless the goal is to solicit membership. Perhaps BB.com on its 10th anniversary is looking for new members and the MuscleTech contest advertised elsewhere will draw new patrons to their site and BodySpace.

MuscleTech gets people to buy their product as a prerequisite to enter the contest. BB.com gets to sell those products to the entrants (and the possibility of repeat customers). And the site gets new BodySpacers.

This is a contest but it's also a sales tool. That seems obvious.

I don't see a problem with it at all. I do see a problem with using the legal system to put pressure on naysayers.

Again, I'd love to read a statement on that topic by someone in the MT chain of command but like I said earlier, with lawyers involved, that ain't gonna happen. Would love for MT to prove me wrong on that count.
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LMAO!

Oh, man. In for the ugliness.

Note to BodySpace, Bodybuilding.com, and MuscleTech: Recommend a sense of humor be applied as there is an obvious and perhaps deserved anti-MT sentiment in the air (ya think???).

Someone might want to address the lawsuit issue head-on or this thread and the contest are both doooomed.
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I promise I'll refrain, restrain, and remove myself so as not to drive TOO many people insane.
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I would'nt say too much until its over. And we know they are'nt going to say anything either for sure... Im still entering, hope your not pissed at us that choose to enter.....
I feel being quiet about it is exactly what they want so I shall continue to voice my thoughts on the legal actions they are perusing. I am not pissed at anyone trying to better themselves and that what got me to this board. I will admit I am disappointed that people do choose to enter this and support Iovate as it feels like you have no morals. I know that sounds harsh and I am some screen name on your computer but I am a real person with 3 wonderful children, a wife of 14 years, a veteran, a son that is getting pissed on by a big company for something I have no control over (patent infringement) being I am not an employee of the company they say I am. Sorry for the rant I really want each and every one of you to reach your goals and just wish there was a different motivator than this sponsor.
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