ABA Shows a Joke?

KnowstheSky · 09-29-2008, 10:40 AM

Has anyone else figured out the ABA is full of crap? They disrespect the athletes, only seem concerned about getting money from both competitors and audience members. I have done a show of theirs and warn people away from them.

A buddy on mine went ahead and did the Midwest/Indiana show on Saturday, and sad to say, they still run a lame, half assed operation. I could go into great detail about how badly they operate, but I'm curious to hear from any others who have had sour impressions of Denny Kakos and his crew.

I know this site is intended to uplift and promote the sport, but I hate seeing good bodybuilders being taken advantage of by an organization that clearly is out for self promotion rather than bettering the sport. Am I wrong???

IronBrendan · 09-29-2008, 04:49 PM

I've actually never even heard of the organization.

www.ironbrendan.com

beezer37 · 12-15-2008, 07:02 PM

Let me start by saying I agree this organization is a joke as far as the logistics go for regional shows. I will never compete in any of these federations again. I was extremely disappointed with the entire show. The judging was very novice and I am not sure the panel even knew what they were judging. On several instances, the judges were way off the mark. Entry fees were outrageous and audience tickets were out of the this world. They want to act as if they are all about the athletes, where in fact, it doesn't take long to recognize they are self promoting, money hungry, and biased pricks (for lack of better terminology, sorry).

One occasion of dissatisfaction really sticks out in my mind. Durning the 4 hours between pre-judging and the evening show, Denny Kakos and family (founders) pushed everyone out of the venue including the competitors, where we were forced to spend the 4 hours in the 90 degree temperatures on a sunny day laying on the ground covered in the already uncomfortable tanning product. If that isn't a screwed up way to treat people who just give you an obscene amount money for a piss poor show I don't know what is.

The mandatory poses during pre judging are the most unorganized display of judging I have ever seen. I felt more like I was learning the waltz than being judged for a physique competition. Then on top of that, they had a couple novice idiots judging what was a "pro qualifing" event. I was so pissed off by the time I walked off stage, I was honestly losing the desire to even win, I just wanted to get the hell out of there before I hit someone.

I was told by friends not to waste my time and hindsight being 20/20, I should have listened. I could go on and on about the crap they got wrong but I am getting worked up just thinking about it right now...so I will stop. But moral of the story, put some thought in it before you commit to this organization. I would urge OCB participation way before wishing this circus on anyone.

indyjoshua · 01-07-2009, 07:08 PM

Any organization that cancels a show is a joke period! It costs an athlete a lot of money and time and mental sanity to get ready for a show. Best thing for an athlete to do is compete during season so that if that happens they have something to fall back upon. Or... they can compete in the NPC baby!!!! Oh yeah!!!!!

coloBB · 01-07-2009, 07:25 PM

hmmm interesting to hear all of this. I am planning on doing a INBA show in May after my two NGA shows. I will be trying to hold my conditioning for another 4 weeks after the last NGA show..... hopefully its worth the effort.

FATHER FLEX · 01-07-2009, 09:13 PM

Not going to even say much about this, but you can run a search in the section and I am sure you will get plenty of info on this org.

**str8flexed** · 01-08-2009, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by indyjoshua

Any organization that cancels a show is a joke period! It costs an athlete a lot of money and time and mental sanity to get ready for a show. Best thing for an athlete to do is compete during season so that if that happens they have something to fall back upon. Or... they can compete in the NPC baby!!!! Oh yeah!!!!!

I wouldn't say that. many shows including npc shows have been canceled because of unforeseeable events. One time the venue screwed the ocb, one month before the show they told them they had double booked the venue and had to kick them out, as a result they had to cancel the show... there wasn't anything they could have done.

tvicemanXXL · 01-08-2009, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by str8flexed

I wouldn't say that. many shows including npc shows have been canceled because of unforeseeable events. One time the venue screwed the ocb, one month before the show they told them they had double booked the venue and had to kick them out, as a result they had to cancel the show... there wasn't anything they could have done.

Sue the living **** out of them.

**str8flexed** · 01-08-2009, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by tvicemanXXL

Sue the living **** out of them.

well the promoter isn't rich and you have to actually win the suit and even then, what are your damages? Everyone wants to sue in this society but people don't realize you are looking at least 10k just to get started, and there is no guarantee of a pay off. If he was rich I'd say do it on principle. But suing doesn't guarantee money and usually it's the opposite

lth · 01-08-2009, 11:44 AM

^^^word....at least make sure you'll at least turn some cash before doing it lol....such as getting hit by a dumptruck or finding a finger in your coffee. But not for a canceled show.