Ultimate Beginners Guide - Page 17

skinny ee · 11-01-2008, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by allenkster

compound A

compound B

I suggest an 10-14 week cycle:

(mon,wed,fri) of compound A - 2 or more daily with rice, veggies. Preload your day with oats
(tues,thurs,sat) compound B - 2 or more daily with rice, veggies. Preload your day with oats

Sundays you can use whatever is left over from the weeks cycle. If no results in 3 weeks, double dosage and extend for another 3 weeks.. continue as required. There won't be any interaction problems with using whey protein during your cycle.

YEP.

usmcspike · 11-05-2008, 12:14 PM

John

As many here I think would agree, you pretty much shouldn't be anywhere near AAS at this age...TEST is already high...at 17 and 18 yrs old and only working out for 4 years....while everyone can appreciate high ambitions, using now is just not the right time. Keep your protein levels high, your diet tight, your cardio strong, lift heavy do all the BASICS to perfection and get a great foundation. Once you peak out in the next oh 8-10 years maybe then think about it, when your test levels drop, metabolism drops and your body has peaked out to it's max potential...that's when you will get the best results from AAS, I think...going to the next level.

At your age, you run the risk of popping on sports tests for AAS in high school, college if you have any aspirations in sports...AAS has been around a long time, it will be around when your ready bro.....

Johnn999 · 11-05-2008, 12:37 PM

Ight thanks man, me and a friend were looking into steroids and i figured reading into things would probably be the best idea instead of just blankly taking crap. Kinda still wanna take something but if it wouldnt be a very good idea at my age i guess ill wait, i just know there are a some people at my age that take some type steroid or test and was wondering about it

richzx · 11-07-2008, 09:14 PM

Great thread I've read all 17pgs and learnt a truckload!! Do you have any specific advice for a 40yo guy currently 200lbs at 10%bf wanting to do a cycle? I messed around with some juice 15yrs ago (think it was sustanon) and got nowhere but there was no internet then! Will straight Test be enough for me having tried it a long time ago? I really only want to do 1 good cycle, or that's what my wife wants(!), and try to retain as much as possible. My diet is good and I feel I've maxed out having gained 50lbs over the time I've been lifting.
Any help appreciated.

UPgrade · 11-08-2008, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by richzx

Great thread I've read all 17pgs and learnt a truckload!! Do you have any specific advice for a 40yo guy currently 200lbs at 10%bf wanting to do a cycle? I messed around with some juice 15yrs ago (think it was sustanon) and got nowhere but there was no internet then! Will straight Test be enough for me having tried it a long time ago? I really only want to do 1 good cycle, or that's what my wife wants(!), and try to retain as much as possible. My diet is good and I feel I've maxed out having gained 50lbs over the time I've been lifting.
Any help appreciated.

i'd say a test only cycle would be a smart, first-go-round to guage your body's responsiveness. dont forget the PCT though - cuz as fast as you gain it, you can lose it. i think you'll be pretty impressed with the normally recommended 500mg EW.

Dan_GleeBalls · 11-11-2008, 08:49 AM

Damn there is alot of info here to read and i now feel as if i know every thing lol.

there is one thing i didnt see is Product i.e

Test Only:
Test Enanthate or Test Cypionate @ 500mg every week. (week 1-12)
Nolvadex - 40/20/20/20/20 (week 13-17)
Clomid - 100/100/50 (week 13-15)

where do you get this from i have been looking for Test e and c but i get page after page after page of stuff the same for Nolvadex and Clomid.
Can some one pls narrow the search down for me and give some recomendations...

Thanks in advance

C. Griswald · 11-11-2008, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan_GleeBalls

Damn there is alot of info here to read and i now feel as if i know every thing lol.

there is one thing i didnt see is Product i.e

Test Only:
Test Enanthate or Test Cypionate @ 500mg every week. (week 1-12)
Nolvadex - 40/20/20/20/20 (week 13-17)
Clomid - 100/100/50 (week 13-15)

where do you get this from i have been looking for Test e and c but i get page after page after page of stuff the same for Nolvadex and Clomid.
Can some one pls narrow the search down for me and give some recomendations...

Thanks in advance

unfortunatly you will not find that info here. in the rules it states no sourcing. you will either have to search around or find another forum where they openly talk about stuff like that

Dan_GleeBalls · 11-11-2008, 08:56 AM

Thats fine thanks once again tech...Is it sourcing if some one PM's me the info lol

allenkster · 11-11-2008, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan_GleeBalls

Thats fine thanks once again tech...Is it sourcing if some one PM's me the info lol

if somebody you don't know if PM'ing you source information, or claiming to be a source...... you have a high chance of loosing your money or worse..

Dan_GleeBalls · 11-11-2008, 02:35 PM

Yea there is that lol

allenkster · 11-12-2008, 11:38 AM

bump

allenkster · 11-15-2008, 06:54 PM

bump again

phrog46 · 11-17-2008, 02:44 AM

I am 28 about 6'6" 236lbs 12% bodyfat. I have been working out for about 10 years now. I want to use 30mg aday of Anobol for about 6weeks with Deca and im not sure if I should go with 500 mg a week or is 250mg enough. I only have 15ml of deca but i also have 10ml of Test. I also have milk thistle, Liver support LIV, and nolvadex. I just did supertest 250 500mg/week for 4weeks stacked with deca-durabol 250mg. I saw really good gains about 10lbs and deadlift, squat both jumped about 75lbs each, bench only increased a little but my stamina seemed to increase.

I want to get up to a solid 250. I have plenty of protien, cell mass, N.O. Explode, and am using True mass for weight gainer. I eat as much as i can but im on a ship and the diet is limited. I would say i get about 4,000 cal a day and i try to get at least 350g of protien spread out pretty evenly through the day.

I was also worried about overtraining, while taking these supps. Can I still overtrain?

allenkster · 11-24-2008, 08:45 PM

bump

PG · 11-26-2008, 10:31 PM

bump

stavmangr · 11-27-2008, 02:44 AM

<<Do Not, i repeat, DO NOT use Sustanon250 for your first cycle. You have to inject it everyother day for it to stay stable in your system.>>
THATS TOTALLY CRAP ME AND HUNDRENDS OTHERS WILL DISAGREE.
How come (When I Started: Aug, 2005 from your file)in 4 years you become an aas advisor? I started training in bb:NOVEMBER 1978 and i cant say that i know much,mate.........

allenkster · 11-27-2008, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by stavmangr

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<<Do Not, i repeat, DO NOT use Sustanon250 for your first cycle. You have to inject it everyother day for it to stay stable in your system.>>

THATS TOTALLY CRAP ME AND HUNDRENDS OTHERS WILL DISAGREE.
How come (When I Started: Aug, 2005 from your file)in 4 years you become an aas advisor? I started training in bb:NOVEMBER 1978 and i cant say that i know much,mate.........

Hi Welcome,

but did you come here to argue or discuss ?

PG · 11-27-2008, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by stavmangr

<<Do Not, i repeat, DO NOT use Sustanon250 for your first cycle. You have to inject it everyother day for it to stay stable in your system.>>
THATS TOTALLY CRAP ME AND HUNDRENDS OTHERS WILL DISAGREE.
How come (When I Started: Aug, 2005 from your file)in 4 years you become an aas advisor? I started training in bb:NOVEMBER 1978 and i cant say that i know much,mate.........

first off, who wants to start of jabbing themselves with a needle every other day for a cycle. 90% of them won't.

And YOU DO have to inject it every other day because 2 of the four esters that make up sustanon are short esters, that only last 2-3days. If you shoot it only twice a week, yea you'll get results, but you'll also get more sides because your testosterone levels will fluctuate to much on a weekly basis

DaBurg3r · 11-27-2008, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by allenkster

compound A

compound B

I suggest an 10-14 week cycle:

(mon,wed,fri) of compound A - 2 or more daily with rice, veggies. Preload your day with oats
(tues,thurs,sat) compound B - 2 or more daily with rice, veggies. Preload your day with oats

Sundays you can use whatever is left over from the weeks cycle. If no results in 3 weeks, double dosage and extend for another 3 weeks.. continue as required. There won't be any interaction problems with using whey protein during your cycle.

Best cycle looking I've ever seen!!

aramik · 12-05-2008, 12:49 AM

one query, what's wrong with sus250 for a first cycle? body can't take it? or just the fact that the needle will be going in your body 2 times a week??

allenkster · 12-05-2008, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by aramik

one query, what's wrong with sus250 for a first cycle? body can't take it? or just the fact that the needle will be going in your body 2 times a week??

Sust should be pinned EOD for most stable blood levels.

aramik · 12-05-2008, 01:20 AM

Eod?

allenkster · 12-05-2008, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by aramik

Eod?

every other day... your also too young to be posting here.. come back later.

aramik · 12-05-2008, 01:36 AM

How am I too young?

FisherAK · 12-05-2008, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by aramik

How am I too young?

Read the rules. You're not old enough to post here, the required age is 21 and you're 19, that's how you're too young.

aramik · 12-05-2008, 02:11 PM

Right, sorry In Australia we are legal at 18, hey.

allenkster · 12-05-2008, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by aramik

Right, sorry In Australia we are legal at 18, hey.

sorry.. AAS is not legal there either..

vishnuv89 · 12-07-2008, 07:54 AM

Deca durabolin is one roid with least side effects and it is very essential to stack testesterone along with it as deca is a suppressing agent when it comes to natural testosterone levels. But testestrone do have side effects.

So is it enough to stack Deca with some natural testosterone boosters in the first cycle. Just to stay away from the undesiarable effects.

Doc Mahns · 12-07-2008, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by vishnuv89

Deca durabolin is one roid with least side effects and it is very essential to stack testesterone along with it as deca is a suppressing agent when it comes to natural testosterone levels. But testestrone do have side effects.

So is it enough to stack Deca with some natural testosterone boosters in the first cycle. Just to stay away from the undesiarable effects.

negative ghost rider. natty test boosters only improve natural production, if you're taking a suppressive agent like deca, your test will be shut off completely, so there's nothing to boost. be a man and take the test, it's the hormone that makes you what you are!

just looked at your age, don't post here, you're not 21. and deca will f*ck your **** up right now because your endocrine system is still developing. you don't want to be a test supressed limp dick at 19

jsquire · 12-12-2008, 06:49 PM

Nice Info!!!