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Old 11-27-2008, 12:38 AM   #1
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Compound Movements: Full Range or Partial Range

Regarding compound movements (bench, squats, military presses, etc).

What works best for muscle growth; Full ROM or Partial ROM? I have read that for strength gains, partial ROM can help. But what about for mass gains? You can see on youtube the top pros benching half way or partial. I see both Full and Partial movements at my gym all the time. Is this is just personal perference for some? Or, is there a benefit of partial ROM?

I apologize in advance if this question has been asked and answered already.
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Old 11-27-2008, 12:44 AM   #2
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Regarding compound movements (bench, squats, military presses, etc).

What works best for muscle growth; Full ROM or Partial ROM? I have read that for strength gains, partial ROM can help. But what about for mass gains? You can see on youtube the top pros benching half way or partial. I see both Full and Partial movements at my gym all the time. Is this is just personal perference for some? Or, is there a benefit of partial ROM?

I apologize in advance if this question has been asked and answered already.
utilize both, partials are good when your lifting heavy loads, but the majority of your exercises should come from full full range of motion.
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Old 11-27-2008, 12:53 AM   #3
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i think most important is don't overextend any move. there should always be a 1/2" of holdback so you're just using muscle and not joints. good luck.
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What works best for muscle growth; Full ROM or Partial ROM?
Personally I love partials, they keep stress on the muscle and take it off the joints. Remember that we only do the full ROM excercises because thats the movements natural conclusion and not because its best for muscle building.

This is a great video that demonstrates how painfull partials can be.

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Old 11-27-2008, 04:14 AM   #5
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I have stressed this so many times on here until I am blue in the face: Bodybuilding is a lifelong quest to find the best way to do each exercise for YOUR body.

for many, partial reps will often be the answer, and for others, not....

you must tailor each and every movement that you do and the two criteria that you use to rate them are measureable results and lack of injury.
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Partials should be another tool in the box.

They are good to "isolate" a certain area of emphasis. For instance on the bench press, the lower half of the lift is primarily the chest doing the work, while the top half is the triceps. With that in mind, you can overload/target one area more than the other, if you are lagging, or want to place more emphasis in a certain area.

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I have stressed this so many times on here until I am blue in the face:
That's your problem, you give up too easy. I'm waiting to see a nice shade of purple going.
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Old 11-27-2008, 06:06 AM   #8
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That's your problem, you give up too easy. I'm waiting to see a nice shade of purple going.
lol....Chaz, I may just reach that color yet! HAHAHAHAHA.......

you know the routine: everyone wants to simplify things in their life, because, well, it is simply SIMPLE! LOL......

but in reality, that is hardly the case.....wouldn't it be fine to lump all exercises into one neat and clean set and rep routine, or one particular form that everyone could use, etc and so on.......

but it isn't......

you can't pidgeon-hole things that concern the human body, because the human body is just too complex and affords too many variations, both structurally and physiologically from one person to the next.
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you can't pidgeon-hole things that concern the human body, because the human body is just too complex and affords too many variations, both structurally and physiologically from one person to the next.
All too true. That is why cookie cutter workouts (on this board, in magazines, or where ever) can net decent to good results, but never great. Too many variables between individuals.

Why so often, two workout partners, who start together, eat relatively similar, and do the exact same workout, often net far different results in the end. Then the one who gets worse results usually chalks it up to bad genetics and quits lifting.
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I have stressed this so many times on here until I am blue in the face: Bodybuilding is a lifelong quest to find the best way to do each exercise for YOUR body.
Luckily I think this is something every trainee does (at least the vast majority that make it past their first year). Everyone begins with a "cookie cutter" routine however after some time in the gym they quickly begin finding exercises which are better for them, finding ways of performing them which suit them better.

Reading up on different ways to do things, observing people in the gym and on videos ect helps but I bet if you locked the adverage noob in a gym on his own for a year with a standard training program they would come out at the end of the year with a routine which suited them better (not that I advise this).
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