Best Overall Ephedra Free Fat Burner?

[boberfani]

I tried Reduction after reading all the positive feedback on this forum.
I think people who are not happy with this product are expecting miracles and were not dieting right with it.
When I started I went on a controlled diet, and found the results came after a two weeks.
I did feel waking up in the morning was a lot easier I guess to the stim and sleeping at night was a lot easier "had the craziest dreams in the world".
All I'm saying don't expect to lose loads of weight by not exercising the right way and dieting the right way using this product. I didn't lose an amazing amount of weight but I lost a good healthy amount and look fitter and cutter than I did before so I am happy with the product.
Personally I wouldn't recommend drinking when you take the PM tablets felt awful the next day, and I love coffe but I felt no need for it during the day aswell.

P.S I live in the UK and bought it from This website store and after the shipping cost and the TAX Duty I had to pay it became very expensive if there is a European store to order from thank you

[Adrenolin]

Clenbuterol

[iBringChaos]

Originally Posted by boberfani

I tried Reduction after reading all the positive feedback on this forum.
I think people who are not happy with this product are expecting miracles and were not dieting right with it.
When I started I went on a controlled diet, and found the results came after a two weeks.
I did feel waking up in the morning was a lot easier I guess to the stim and sleeping at night was a lot easier "had the craziest dreams in the world".
All I'm saying don't expect to lose loads of weight by not exercising the right way and dieting the right way using this product. I didn't lose an amazing amount of weight but I lost a good healthy amount and look fitter and cutter than I did before so I am happy with the product.
Personally I wouldn't recommend drinking when you take the PM tablets felt awful the next day, and I love coffe but I felt no need for it during the day aswell.

P.S I live in the UK and bought it from This website store and after the shipping cost and the TAX Duty I had to pay it became very expensive if there is a European store to order from thank you

cl and scivation have a tough time shipping to UK and Europe, im sure they are working on dealers over there

[boberfani]

Originally Posted by ADREN0LIN

Clenbuterol

Clenbuterol?
I am sure that's very bad for you to take.. Has awful side effects

[tanjhj]

Originally Posted by Djin

Before you rant and rave, could you please fill in the blanks for us.

What is your height? Your weight, your fat % (if known). How much were you eating a day? What was/is your daily routine... etc.

We need to know more about YOU before anything else. If people took the time and read my 60-day review they would find that REDuction isn't suppose to be this mega-super-hardcore formula that will drop kick energy into your central nerves....

A lot of people take a thermo and expect their body to set fire... if this was the case, wouldn't there already be such a "magic" pill and everyone would be fit and not worry about eating whatever?

Since thermogenics only make up (if this) 10-15% of the complete package, people think that equals 100%. People need to understand that the bigger picture to muscle gain or fat lose is the CORRECT foods you eat, and when you eat them.

I would easily say food makes up 60% of the complete package, 10% to thermogenics and 30% to gym... and even then you see these people who work out all the time and just spin their wheels. The article on the front page explains how a lot of people OVER train, yet with their "more = better" attitude, they are doing more harm then good.

(Note; my numbers are not set in stone, yet more of a reference point... please don't bash me.)

Hi,

I like to ask if anyone has tried Reduction with GreenTea Extract and CLA?
I was on LIPO6 + Ephedrine + GreenTea + CLA for abt two months and drop 20kgs+ with no excercise but on a moderately strict low carbo diet.

Problem is I drop **** loads of hair and **** bricks! So i would like to asked if anyone has tried REDuction on GreenTea and CLA?

Any hair loss etc?

[Djin]

Originally Posted by tanjhj

Hi,

I like to ask if anyone has tried Reduction with GreenTea Extract and CLA?
I was on LIPO6 + Ephedrine + GreenTea + CLA for abt two months and drop 20kgs+ with no excercise but on a moderately strict low carbo diet.

Problem is I drop **** loads of hair and **** bricks! So i would like to asked if anyone has tried REDuction on GreenTea and CLA?

Any hair loss etc?

No... You were on LIPO AND Epherdine... jesus... I'm surprised you didn't have a heart attack.

I never had any hair loss, but yeah... I was crapping a lot.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Originally Posted by boberfani

I tried Reduction after reading all the positive feedback on this forum.
I think people who are not happy with this product are expecting miracles and were not dieting right with it.
When I started I went on a controlled diet, and found the results came after a two weeks.
I did feel waking up in the morning was a lot easier I guess to the stim and sleeping at night was a lot easier "had the craziest dreams in the world".
All I'm saying don't expect to lose loads of weight by not exercising the right way and dieting the right way using this product. I didn't lose an amazing amount of weight but I lost a good healthy amount and look fitter and cutter than I did before so I am happy with the product.
Personally I wouldn't recommend drinking when you take the PM tablets felt awful the next day, and I love coffe but I felt no need for it during the day aswell.

P.S I live in the UK and bought it from This website store and after the shipping cost and the TAX Duty I had to pay it became very expensive if there is a European store to order from thank you

thanks for the great feedback. yeah, we have dealers in europe, check our site for more info on that "retailers tab"

[IronMan9201]

hmm anyone tried hydroxycut hardcore vs meltdown or one or the other? or does no one try nething outside red-uction or lipo lol

[Djin]

Originally Posted by IronMan9201

hmm anyone tried hydroxycut hardcore vs meltdown or one or the other? or does no one try nething outside red-uction or lipo lol

I've tried most of them. Hydroxycut is so so... Meltdown did nothing for me. I liked MAN Scorch and Tetrazene Extreme. I'm currently taking Xenadrine RFA-X. Just started it a day ago, we'll see how things go.

[platinumike]

I've did 5 weeks of Hydroxycut Harcore, lost 17 lbs. Did cardio in the morning 4x a week along with weights, and dieting. I decided to try something new, i tried the reduction sample and it felt like hydroxycut did when i first took it, so i bought some reduction. Hopefully, I'll see some good results.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Originally Posted by platinumike

I've did 5 weeks of Hydroxycut Harcore, lost 17 lbs. Did cardio in the morning 4x a week along with weights, and dieting. I decided to try something new, i tried the reduction sample and it felt like hydroxycut did when i first took it, so i bought some reduction. Hopefully, I'll see some good results.

keep us posted on your REDuction results, curios to hear how it works for you

[Djin]

Originally Posted by platinumike

I've did 5 weeks of Hydroxycut Harcore, lost 17 lbs. Did cardio in the morning 4x a week along with weights, and dieting. I decided to try something new, i tried the reduction sample and it felt like hydroxycut did when i first took it, so i bought some reduction. Hopefully, I'll see some good results.

How much do you weigh? Or how much did you weigh?

[dasboot814]

i have been using Lipo 6x with good results for the last few weeks. In about 23 days I have dropped around 6 lbs, and I have more energy when I go to the gym. I feel the effects of Lipo 6x much more than just plain green tea pills, which is what I was taking before.

[mbxrb]

Any one here tried batastax?How does it compare to REDuction?

[brainechick]

I've been searching for a fat burner that wouldn't make me fail a doping test (non Ephedra, of course). Anyone here who is subject to testing know what along those lines I could take, because comparing ingredient lists to the banned list doesn't always work, and I can't afford to find out the hard way. Thanks!

[muscleup1]

What are the side effects of Clenbuterol?

[SkellorX]

When i was cutting Lipo 6X did a really good job. I think atro phex is way over hyped. I did loose some water weight on it i guess.

Looking forward to trying CL reduction when i cut again........if i do.

[gridironwarrior]

Reduction or Animal Cuts... both are nice

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Originally Posted by SkellorX

When i was cutting Lipo 6X did a really good job. I think atro phex is way over hyped. I did loose some water weight on it i guess.

Looking forward to trying CL reduction when i cut again........if i do.

glad to hear it, keep a log if you have the time

Originally Posted by gridironwarrior

Reduction or Animal Cuts... both are nice

did you try a REDuction sample or a full box?

[gridironwarrior]

Originally Posted by CONTROLLED LABS

glad to hear it, keep a log if you have the time


did you try a REDuction sample or a full box?

Full box. Used a can of Cuts, then followed it up w/ REDuction. Great products.

[SkellorX]

out of curiousity.....how much did u cut ur calories and how much was the muscle loss?

Which would u say gave u more results cuts or reduction?

I know with other burners 1 box was never enough its like u need 2 lol

Living where i live the big lipo 6 costs about $120 i think @ gnc.

So im buying in large stocks from this website...... So i wana know how much i should be for best results
Say to get from 13% bodyfat to 9-10

How much packs of reduction or cuts

[gridironwarrior]

Originally Posted by SkellorX

out of curiousity.....how much did u cut ur calories and how much was the muscle loss?

Which would u say gave u more results cuts or reduction?

I know with other burners 1 box was never enough its like u need 2 lol

Living where i live the big lipo 6 costs about $120 i think @ gnc.

So im buying in large stocks from this website...... So i wana know how much i should be for best results
Say to get from 13% bodyfat to 9-10

How much packs of reduction or cuts

I cut my calories to about 4k and did cardio for 2 hours 5 days a week. I started Cuts first to lose water weight then followed it up with REDuction. both helped me lose around 20lbs total. I can't say which was better because I've never ran either one separately. I did not lose too much muscle because I consumed ~330g protein and lots of animo acids..... gotta experiment. recommend both products.

[Djin]

Originally Posted by gridironwarrior

I cut my calories to about 4k and did cardio for 2 hours 5 days a week. I started Cuts first to lose water weight then followed it up with REDuction. both helped me lose around 20lbs total. I can't say which was better because I've never ran either one separately. I did not lose too much muscle because I consumed ~330g protein and lots of animo acids..... gotta experiment. recommend both products.

4,000 calories? I think I take in like 2,500 a day... maybe a little more on heavy work out days... I use to eat 1,500 calories... I dropped 70lbs in several months.

330g of protein? Are you like 300lbs? I'm just trying to figure out how much you weigh and how tall you are to eat 4,000 calories and 330g of protein.

I take (or try to) in about 180g of protein... 1g x 1lb = 180g or protein. Some days more, some days less... but 330g... ****. Do you eat chickens by the dozen?

[gridironwarrior]

Originally Posted by Djin

4,000 calories? I think I take in like 2,500 a day... maybe a little more on heavy work out days... I use to eat 1,500 calories... I dropped 70lbs in several months.

330g of protein? Are you like 300lbs? I'm just trying to figure out how much you weigh and how tall you are to eat 4,000 calories and 330g of protein.

I take (or try to) in about 180g of protein... 1g x 1lb = 180g or protein. Some days more, some days less... but 330g... ****. Do you eat chickens by the dozen?

Haha. I wish I were 300lbs. Im 240 right now and during football season, I weigh around 260 to 270lbs. Height is around 6'4. I just performed my first cut ever and since I eat around 8k calories, I figured, lets cut it in half. Also, I worked out 4 times a week with 5 days of 2 hour cardio sessions.... talk about gay.....


I eat about 3lbs of meat, tons of eggs, and a gallon of milk daily.

[platinumike]

I weighed 224 at the start of the cut. 10-14-08. Weighed in at 207 4 weeks later.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Originally Posted by gridironwarrior

Full box. Used a can of Cuts, then followed it up w/ REDuction. Great products.

Originally Posted by gridironwarrior

I cut my calories to about 4k and did cardio for 2 hours 5 days a week. I started Cuts first to lose water weight then followed it up with REDuction. both helped me lose around 20lbs total. I can't say which was better because I've never ran either one separately. I did not lose too much muscle because I consumed ~330g protein and lots of animo acids..... gotta experiment. recommend both products.

awesome to hear, those are some great results

Originally Posted by SkellorX

out of curiousity.....how much did u cut ur calories and how much was the muscle loss?

Which would u say gave u more results cuts or reduction?

I know with other burners 1 box was never enough its like u need 2 lol

Living where i live the big lipo 6 costs about $120 i think @ gnc.

So im buying in large stocks from this website...... So i wana know how much i should be for best results
Say to get from 13% bodyfat to 9-10

How much packs of reduction or cuts

with two boxes (2 months) you should see some very good results if diet and training are in check as well.

[BigJesusLv]

Originally Posted by gridironwarrior

Haha. I wish I were 300lbs. Im 240 right now and during football season, I weigh around 260 to 270lbs. Height is around 6'4. I just performed my first cut ever and since I eat around 8k calories, I figured, lets cut it in half. Also, I worked out 4 times a week with 5 days of 2 hour cardio sessions.... talk about gay.....


I eat about 3lbs of meat, tons of eggs, and a gallon of milk daily.

Holy crap man. You must live on a farm to eat like that or your parents are really wealthy.

[ATLYROC]

miotropin n the bag today getting ready to test it out.

[deserusan]

Originally Posted by ATLYROC

miotropin n the bag today getting ready to test it out.

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[gridironwarrior]

Originally Posted by BigJesusLv

Holy crap man. You must live on a farm to eat like that or your parents are really wealthy.

hehehe.... I got an athletic scholarship so I don't pay too much for tutition.... my parents do pay for my food and what remains of my tutition... I'm very fortunate.