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Old 11-16-2008, 04:08 PM   #1141
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Thank you for the welcome.

Spring85: to address some of your post. I was just recently seen by my Doctor and had all bloodwork done, etc. So I know where I stand there. I am going back in six months and need to show some improvements. As far as seeing someone: during the break up of my marriage and of my relationship ending last year I did go to counseling for quite a while. I think I had just been hurt so badly in both relationships that I did not care any more, did not want to look good because I did not want any male attention. I could hide behind fat and thus be safe from being hurt again. BUT, that time is up now and that has not been healthy.

As far as Human Services goes, I am very much a people person. When I went back to college I was hoping to do something where I would really be able to make a difference for people. However, I am finding that not only is a lot of my job absorbed in paperwork, BUT, I take a lot of worry home with me over some of the families. And, some of them really just suck the life right out of you. It is NOT a good fit for me overall. I need to be around people, it is very depressing for me not to be. I have gained a crazy amount of weight since I have been in this field and that is not good. I am not a huge Dr. Phil fan but I do believe some things he brings up. And one of those things is that he says, "are you willing to leave your job if it is unhealthy for you?" And I have to say at this point that yes I am, once I find what is a good fit for me.

Thank you so much for your input and look forward to the great amount of support in the days ahead.
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Thank you for the welcome.

Spring85: to address some of your post. I was just recently seen by my Doctor and had all bloodwork done, etc. So I know where I stand there. I am going back in six months and need to show some improvements. As far as seeing someone: during the break up of my marriage and of my relationship ending last year I did go to counseling for quite a while. I think I had just been hurt so badly in both relationships that I did not care any more, did not want to look good because I did not want any male attention. I could hide behind fat and thus be safe from being hurt again. BUT, that time is up now and that has not been healthy.

As far as Human Services goes, I am very much a people person. When I went back to college I was hoping to do something where I would really be able to make a difference for people. However, I am finding that not only is a lot of my job absorbed in paperwork, BUT, I take a lot of worry home with me over some of the families. And, some of them really just suck the life right out of you. It is NOT a good fit for me overall. I need to be around people, it is very depressing for me not to be. I have gained a crazy amount of weight since I have been in this field and that is not good. I am not a huge Dr. Phil fan but I do believe some things he brings up. And one of those things is that he says, "are you willing to leave your job if it is unhealthy for you?" And I have to say at this point that yes I am, once I find what is a good fit for me.

Thank you so much for your input and look forward to the great amount of support in the days ahead.
You are very welcome! I neglected to ask at what level are you trained in human services. During my masters and doctoral training, the concept of self-care is stressed. We are also taught to look at how are own "issues" can impact our work with others. Often the cases which mirrored our life experiences were the most difficult to deal with until we learned to separate ourselves from the cases. It is a growing process.

Working out, eating healthy, and frankly, finding good people in online communities is one way I try to care for myself. For others, it might be travel, art, etc. In this field one has to learn that you are merely a "tool" or "catalyst" in the change process. Families are complex systems and when one starts working with them, there are a number of issues that surface. If you choose to stay in the field find an agency that takes care of its workers, provides great supervision and feedback, and support. You may also want to look into coaching, which deals with a "healthier" population.

Once again, it sounds like you know what you want and I am sure you will reach your goals. Take care!
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i have been lurking around..and this one is the best thread i ever read...very straigth forward..

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i have been lurking around..and this one is the best thread i ever read...very straigth forward..

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On behalf of us "old folks" LOL! Thanks! I think once one reaches a certain age, one has lived enough to know what one wants, to accept oneself, and to not worry so much about what people think. One is able to express oneself more freely. I find this to be even more true with my 91 year old grandmother, who doesn't talk much but can say more with one sentence than many can say in a paragraph! Hope that what you read here is edifying. Take care!
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Old 11-18-2008, 01:49 PM   #1145
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I understand what you are going through I have been through treatments for prostate cancer (45 days) and i am going to get a blood test and go get results from my PCP from Veterans Adm Hospital on Dec 12. What was the stage of your diagnosis when you got it?Are you still suffering from this cancer? If I may ask.

As far as going black market to get Testosterone Replacement is extremely dangerous since you really don't what you are getting if it is not prescribed by a doctor. I am sorry for your recent health issues but just remember how that black market testosterone could possibly do more damage to your system
Do some more research to see if there are safer alternatives
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That's exactly what I am worry about, the quality.
My Prostate Cancer was caught at Level 1.
Two of the 12 slivers were cancerous. Upper left.
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Old 11-18-2008, 03:02 PM   #1146
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Ok, not only am i new here, i am new to this site. I have started a journal in female BB site but i feel "safe" in here. I am 38 and training for my first fitness/figure competition. I enjoy chatting with people who have the same passion as I.
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Welcome aboard!!! There's alot of great people here and everyone is VERY helpful and supportive. This site has TONS of info that has really helped me to build my knowledge. I think you'll find it a great resource as well.

Keep up the great work and don't be shy. We don't bite... much... ;-)
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Welcome to Bodyspace! I've been here a little over a month and have been totally inspired! Hope the same happens for you! Let us know about your progress toward your fitness/figure competition!
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Ok, i am sure i am going to get slammed for this, but why are dairy products and bread so taboo? There is a lot of protein in dairy (and fat as well).

Also I hear all the time, not white or enriched "stuff" because it is soo processed. My question is so what does that mean or do for or against us?

Or should i ask these questions in another thread?
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Ok, i am sure i am going to get slammed for this, but why are dairy products and bread so taboo? There is a lot of protein in dairy (and fat as well).

Also I hear all the time, not white or enriched "stuff" because it is soo processed. My question is so what does that mean or do for or against us?

Or should i ask these questions in another thread?
You pose an interesting question. It was only when I was in my 30s that I realized that I could not eat things that other people were eating. I had wondered for a very long time why when I would eat bread or other products made from grains that within 30 minutes of eating them I was literally starving. As a young boy, I would never eat breakfast because a lot of pancakes and cereal would be served. Interestingly enough, I know people, relatives included, who can fill up on bread (with no ill effects to their figures or physiques), pasta, etc. and not get hungry.

This led me to doing some research. Although some people may not agree, I found that reading about the blood type diet helped me immensely. I found that I was eating "wrong" for my type. When I'm in my best shape, I'm eating what is recommended for my blood type O+. In my case, grains and dairy, some vegetables (e.g. cabbage) are not good for me. As for meat, it is recommended that I eat mostly beef, some chicken and NO PORK (which I don't eat anyway), beans, and dark greens. Very little fruit would be recommended for me. Now, other people with different types actually can eat whole grains, pasta, etc. and they will be just fine. I know people who could "fill up" after eating a bagel which is another food that I cannot eat.

So, I guess I write all of this to say check into some other sources concerning diet and body chemistry. It seems to me that some of us can tolerate foods that others can't. I KNOW I don't tolerate grains and dairy too well, but will eat them occasionally knowing what they will do to me !

I would also recommend your looking at www.mercola.com. Dr. Mercola talks a lot about "metabolic typing" which also suggests that people have different metabolic types that require different types of food. There used to be a short quiz on his site that you could take to determine your "type." When you go to his site do a search on "metabolic type."

Just my humble two cents.
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Thanks for the well researched/thought out reply. I am starting to believe my own conclusion that we are all different. I LIVE for bread of some sort. I can't imagine giving it up. All the diets of competitors and bodybuilders don't include bread (most of the time) so I didn't know what was wrong with it.

I can eat pancakes or oatmeal in the morning and be famished in about an hour or I can have a piece of toast or english muffin and not be hungry til noon. go figure. So thanks for the website I am looking forward to checking it out and see where i fit in there.

I am of the "free thought" that a calorie is a calorie and what you put in minus what you put out equals weight or weight loss. Now before you get after me if you only eat 300 calories snickers, and workout 600calories you will lose weight but your body will not be happy! duh! =)
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Thanks for the well researched/thought out reply. I am starting to believe my own conclusion that we are all different. I LIVE for bread of some sort. I can't imagine giving it up. All the diets of competitors and bodybuilders don't include bread (most of the time) so I didn't know what was wrong with it.

I can eat pancakes or oatmeal in the morning and be famished in about an hour or I can have a piece of toast or english muffin and not be hungry til noon. go figure. So thanks for the website I am looking forward to checking it out and see where i fit in there.

I am of the "free thought" that a calorie is a calorie and what you put in minus what you put out equals weight or weight loss. Now before you get after me if you only eat 300 calories snickers, and workout 600calories you will lose weight but your body will not be happy! duh! =)
You are very welcome! I was laughing at the fact that you wrote "I can eat pancakes or oatmeal in the morning and be famished in about an hour..." That was me exactly! Now I eat oat meal with nuts, raisins, and a little yogurt, and olive oil and it works just fine. I can't find a solution for the pancakes so I stay away from them. LOL! Mostly, I eat all day what most people would consider for "lunch" or "dinner." I will eat a salad for breakfast, for example, or grilled chicken and some veggies. I find this works better for me than most "breakfast" foods.

While I recommend Dr. Mercola's site, I forgot to tell you that he seems to be "anti-grain" and "anti-dairy". However, the metabolic typing information is well worth a visit to his informative site. Take care!
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Hello everyone!

I wanted to say hello to everyone here. I am posting from beautiful Raleigh, NC. I am not a newcomer and have been lifting weights since I was in college (1995) off and on. I used to be really fanatical about working out and at my peak (age 30), I was around 205 lbs on a 5'8 frame with 15% body fat. Sports related injuries have slowed me down over the last few years and I was lucky if I could make it to the gym once a week.

Well, it all changed one month ago at the grocery store when I ran into a serious bodybuilder. We started chatting and something rekindled my old desire to get back into the world of bodybuilding. This time I want to do it right. I had always ignored diet and rest in the past. Now, I want to do it right instead of psyching myself up to lift heavy every time I step into the gym.

This is what I am doing to get back into serious weight training (note: I did not use bb). I am working out for an hour twice a week. I am doing chest-shoulders and tri on one day and back-leg-biceps on the other. I am going at 50% of max to 10 reps and then to failure in my second set at 65% max (old school HIT). No more than two sets and two exercises per muscle. I am sticking with classic compound exercises like bench pressing and rows.

I also play sports two times a week for cardiovascular endurance.

I'd appreciate any tips on recovery and diet. I use a multivitamin and a protein shake. I am trying to consume 120 g of protein per day. I weigh 185 lbs currently.

This is an excellent site.
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Welcome tantriclovernc, Becareful on the Hwys in Raleigh, I have a friend that is a state trooper there! lol =)

I have read, that a good rule of thumb is one gram of protein per one pound of body weight.




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I wanted to say hello to everyone here. I am posting from beautiful Raleigh, NC. I am not a newcomer and have been lifting weights since I was in college (1995) off and on. I used to be really fanatical about working out and at my peak (age 30), I was around 205 lbs on a 5'8 frame with 15% body fat. Sports related injuries have slowed me down over the last few years and I was lucky if I could make it to the gym once a week.

Well, it all changed one month ago at the grocery store when I ran into a serious bodybuilder. We started chatting and something rekindled my old desire to get back into the world of bodybuilding. This time I want to do it right. I had always ignored diet and rest in the past. Now, I want to do it right instead of psyching myself up to lift heavy every time I step into the gym.

This is what I am doing to get back into serious weight training (note: I did not use bb). I am working out for an hour twice a week. I am doing chest-shoulders and tri on one day and back-leg-biceps on the other. I am going at 50% of max to 10 reps and then to failure in my second set at 65% max (old school HIT). No more than two sets and two exercises per muscle. I am sticking with classic compound exercises like bench pressing and rows.

I also play sports two times a week for cardiovascular endurance.

I'd appreciate any tips on recovery and diet. I use a multivitamin and a protein shake. I am trying to consume 120 g of protein per day. I weigh 185 lbs currently.

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Hi all,im new to the site and have done lots of reading here.I have lifted of and on till i was almost thirty,ended up taking to everyday drinking and health just spiraled down hill.Well,i have been clean for over five years and its time to get my health back,my wife and i both tuned forty and we both really need to get our strenght back,my wife has been in a wheelchair for over fifteen years from auto accident,paralyzed from waist down.So my main goal isnt not only to get my life back,but to do everything possibble for my wife so she can have energy again and enjoy life all we can.This is a great forum with alot of friendly people from what i see,and lots of great info.Sorry if i rambled on,i will start working on my profile soon.take care everyone..
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Hi all,im new to the site and have done lots of reading here.I have lifted of and on till i was almost thirty,ended up taking to everyday drinking and health just spiraled down hill.Well,i have been clean for over five years and its time to get my health back,my wife and i both tuned forty and we both really need to get our strenght back,my wife has been in a wheelchair for over fifteen years from auto accident,paralyzed from waist down.So my main goal isnt not only to get my life back,but to do everything possibble for my wife so she can have energy again and enjoy life all we can.This is a great forum with alot of friendly people from what i see,and lots of great info.Sorry if i rambled on,i will start working on my profile soon.take care everyone..
First of all, grats on wanting to get your strength back! Hopefully you two can help motivate each other. I can't begin to imagine what being in a wheelchair is like, let alone how challenging it can be to get fit and healthy. There's a lady around these parts that has a bike that is made for people that are in a wheelchair. It's got 3 wheels and is powered by the arms. You should see her guns!!!! Every time I complain about the next hill or challenge, I think about her and realize I need to stop the belly-aching and just get on with it.

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Thanks for the warm words ladies and gentlemen. I have to ask, how many times a week do you hit each muscle group? My recovery time is slow so I stick wit 1X per week.
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Same here. I hit each muscle group only once/week.

My preferred method of training is heavy weight/low reps. It's longer for my body to recuperate.
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Thanks for the warm words ladies and gentlemen. I have to ask, how many times a week do you hit each muscle group? My recovery time is slow so I stick wit 1X per week.
Welcome aboard all the new folks!!!

To answer Tantric's question.... I'm a newbie myself as I've just started this way of life this month. One of the things I heard was to ease into it and let the body get used to the stresses. For now, I'm doing a full body routine 3x week. Not focusing on the weights and setting personal bests. But more importantly, making sure I have proper form, getting the ligaments and tendons used to taking the loads.

Other, more experienced people will say differently, but for me, I do everything 3x week with rest days in between and on the weekend. I may do some light cardio and hide it as playing with the kids.

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